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06-15-2013 07:11 PM  5 years agoPost 1
cueman100

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Ok this is my first flybarless heli it's 90 size nitro with a 4 blade head. I set up my Pitch -10 +10. My pitch curve is -3/+6/+10. I set my cyclic at 10 degrees. When I bring the heli up into a hover it is very touchy on the sticks, and I have a tendency to over control it. My question is: Can I use duel rates, or will that throw off the Ikon programing? Or should I cut down on the cyclic. The heli is going into an A109 fuse.

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06-15-2013 09:34 PM  5 years agoPost 2
Mojave

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I'm not familiar with that fbl controller, but I would cut the cyclic back to 8 degrees max. I typically run 25-30% expo on the ail/rud channels. If this is not enough, move the control balls closer to the servo centerline. This will soften the response. Also, you can use longer balls at the outer swash ring and shorter balls at the inner ring. You can also use a longer stand off ball at the blade grip. Post pics of your set up, it will help us to see what you have to work with.
Barry

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06-15-2013 10:02 PM  5 years agoPost 3
G-Limo

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Why would you need 20deg of pitch movement on a Scale machine??

I would set the machine up mechanically first ie. -3 deg at the bottom +5 at mid stick and around +12 deg at the top. (set this as Rate = Normal for hovering only) For all other flying set the idle-up 1 to move the top pitch to +8 or +9 deg.. (TUNE the Pitch curve if you can't get this set Mechanically)

Remember to switch Idle-up 1 off in a decent to give you the +12 deg at the bottom of the drop, else you may not have enough lift to stop the machine hitting the ground.

You didn't say if this heli is electric or Nitro, so on Electric, the ECU Gov function/setting should keep control of the head speed. If its nitro, a separate governor of manipulating the Throttle curve should do the same job.

/Limo.

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06-15-2013 11:36 PM  5 years agoPost 4
cueman100

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Hope these pictures help.

Thanks

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06-16-2013 02:15 AM  5 years agoPost 5
Mojave

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Looking at your heli I can see 2 things that you can do to slow down the head a bit. First, move the ball closer to the center of the servos and see if you still get enough pitch at top stick. Second, you can use control balls with a longer post on the outer swash ring. This will cut down the travel.

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