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06-10-2013 06:37 PM  5 years agoPost 1
mookie

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I have just bought a new still in its box Heim Star Ranger Fuselage from ebay £100, must admit I thought it was the later vario Long Ranger. Still very happy.
I have been off work today and done some detective work on RR and google, it seem that the mechanics have been out of production for a long time. So have been thinking about putting modern style mechanics in unless anyone on here has better advice.
As soon as the fuselage gets here I'll gets some pics up.

valve boy!

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06-10-2013 08:51 PM  5 years agoPost 2
Copter Doctor

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modern style mechs is a great way to go if you cannot find the original mechs. I personally would go for the modern style mechs

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06-10-2013 09:06 PM  5 years agoPost 3
coptercptn

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What doc says... most any style can be made to work.. some easier than others and most all a lot more dependable than the "original" stuff anyway... And get parts for?

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06-10-2013 09:26 PM  5 years agoPost 4
payne1967

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look at the vario skyfox mechanics are they are the closest to the star ranger ones you will find today
you could leave the cooling duct out
and fit many other types of mrchanics

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06-10-2013 10:25 PM  5 years agoPost 5
mookie

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Thanks for the info guys, I thought a new set of mechs would be the way to go, but was unsure how the scale community would react. hopefully it will arrive tomorrow....
I have a spare MA Stratus, if the fuse is tall enough then I'm going to try and fit that.

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06-11-2013 03:05 AM  5 years agoPost 6
MDSCUSTOMS

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Hi Mookie,

Nice purchase and a very nice find. As Payne1967 says above, the nearest parts are those for the Vario Skyfox.

Welcome to the Heim owners club, I've got the Lockheed 286 and an AS 355 made by Heim. Great machines !

Mark

I'm only here coz I'm not all there !!

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06-11-2013 03:13 PM  5 years agoPost 7
mookie

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Have just opened the box, great surprise, everything is there Superb!! The only thing that has been touched, I think, is the rear windows have been cutout.
So now the first job has been done, I have to figure out if my stratus mechanics are going to fit. It's just such a shame to remove the tub and duct. Although MA flybarless head would add to the scale look of the Long Ranger. Also I can set the CGY750 a scale flight setting, And As its such a large fuse, the YS91 will give it the power it needs. Anyway as promised here are some photos.

Not going to rush in, will leave it for a couple of days. One thing I will do as I have seen people asking for it on various posts will be to copy the plans and parts list and post on my RR gallery.
As MDS and Payne have said I might look into vario mechs, but have never worked them.

Well my first scale build starts.

valve boy!

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06-11-2013 09:21 PM  5 years agoPost 8
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Not the heim star ranger
but similar. that's a long ranger fuse and looks to be the vario (shared many similarities as the heim/graupner line.) looks to be in very nice shape though. since the Trex 700 seems to be the star machine on the popular list these days, I vote it in as a first choice for modern mechs.

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06-11-2013 09:58 PM  5 years agoPost 9
mookie

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Hi copter thanks for the info, so the star ranger had the drop in mechanics the same as this model, but this is a vario, how can you tell, I have been scratching my head for ages tring to work it out.

As for the mechs, I'm going with miniature aircraft, the stratus is a fantastic machine, you only have to build it once, things don't break, everything on it is made so well, and because its in really reliable, it's a good machine to fit into a fuse like this.

I measured the length of the torque tube and I'll have to cut it and put a piece in, but other than that I can't see and other problems with the installation.

valve boy!

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06-12-2013 02:00 AM  5 years agoPost 10
ddavison

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You can get uncut carbon torque tubes from MA. or tell them what length you need and they can make it up to size. I would not add a piece. Stratus may be too tall. It is a Vario.

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06-12-2013 08:44 AM  5 years agoPost 11
mookie

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Thanks dd once I get to that point I'll measure up and order it from MA.
The mechanics just about fit, I'm cutting the tub out over the weekend. I'll know more by then.

valve boy!

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06-12-2013 01:24 PM  5 years agoPost 12
Mojave

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I'm surprised that the MA mechs will fit this fuse. Most MA mechs are not good scale candidates because of the servo mounting locations. They tend to interfere with the front section of the doghouse. I hope this works out for your project, as they are very high quality mechs.
Barry

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06-12-2013 02:40 PM  5 years agoPost 13
mookie

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I have measured it up the best i can without the mechs in the fuselage and there looks to be around 10mm clearance.
I'll report back tomorrow as i'm cutting out the Tub tonight.

valve boy!

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06-12-2013 02:49 PM  5 years agoPost 14
payne1967

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when you cut the tub out do it in a way
that it can be refitted if need be

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06-12-2013 03:22 PM  5 years agoPost 15
mookie

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Hi payne, yeah that was the plan, because even if i dont use it, it may be of some use to another vario owner, or if i do find the correct mechs then i might even put it back to original.

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06-12-2013 09:28 PM  5 years agoPost 16
Copter Doctor

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Hi copter thanks for the info, so the star ranger had the drop in mechanics the same as this model, but this is a vario, how can you tell, I have been scratching my head for ages tring to work it out
the star ranger was basically a jet ranger (only the cockpit window and an aft cabin window) the ong ranger has a cockpit window and two (one smaller ) aft cabin windows. the way the mechs are mounted seem to be the same though.
I'm surprised that the MA mechs will fit this fuse. Most MA mechs are not good scale candidates because of the servo mounting locations. They tend to interfere with the front section of the doghouse.
Barry you are correct. i have looked at the fury and all its variants and they were not scale friendly at all. only the Xcell line made good mechs for scale (i have a bunch of those in fuses) i wish someone would bring back the "A" frame style mechs and the reliable Main and pinion type drive train for scale applications but in the age of scratch building mechs especially those that allow an aft cabin, i guess that wont ever be.
now since that vario fuse (and many of their fuses) are huge, the stratus may be quite happy with its fit.

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06-12-2013 10:53 PM  5 years agoPost 17
mookie

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Copter.... Thanks for the info. There is another site where the guy building it says it is Star Ranger and the pics are the same as mine. Trust me to believe everything on the interweb

The stratus is a lot lower, the front servo was dropped a fair amount and is now just below the main shaft top bearing, where as the fury was way above this line making it virtually impossible to fit into anything.

I'm not saying at this moment it's a definite, it's looking pretty close. Also the starter shaft is looking like it may come in the wrong place, plus I'll have to machine a new longer main shaft at work otherwise the flybarless head will be too low. I never thought this was gong to be an easy build

I have been thinking about the tail rotor, As its further away on a longer boom I might have to go to shorter tail blades, otherwise it may be a bit twitchy. Here is a pic of one of my stratus mechs.

valve boy!

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06-13-2013 12:12 PM  5 years agoPost 18
Heli143

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Am I wrong or didn't the Heim Rangers have a small exhaust tube exit built into the fuse at the back under the tailboom?

Roy Mayoral

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06-13-2013 12:58 PM  5 years agoPost 19
modtron

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If you look at the 3rd picture on the top row, it clearly shoes a Vario label - 100% not a Star Ranger and Heim never produced a Long Ranger.
The Vario parts are still available to hold this as original if required.

modtron
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06-13-2013 02:58 PM  5 years agoPost 20
mookie

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Well it's a bit late now, have cut the fuselage and dropped in the mechs for a quick test. I left the top section at home, but with a little more fibreglass removal I think these are my mechs.

valve boy!

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