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06-10-2013 04:48 PM  5 years agoPost 1
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http://news.yahoo.com/conservative-...-150337890.html

The Democrats have joined the release-partial-transcripts-from-IRS-interviews game, dropping a memo outlining how a Republican IRS manager in Cincinnati identifies himself as the origin of the Tea Party controversy. Partial transcripts should be taken with a grain of salt — but the IRS apparently keeps sanctioning people anyway.

The transcripts stem from a series of interviews conducted by the House Oversight Committee, for which Rep. Darrell Issa of California acts as chair. As we noted last week when Issa released selected portions of the interviews (yielding some press attention), partial transcripts do not provide a complete picture. We cannot say this enough, and will say it again in a bit.

Those initial releases, which can be seen here, heavily emphasized suggestions that the Cincinnati team had guidance from people in Washington. One staffer quoted in a Wall Street Journal story said, for example, that he'd been told by a supervisor that "Washington, D.C., wanted some cases," raising questions but offering few answers.

Now we hear from one such manager. The memo presented by Issa's Democratic colleagues starts with the identification of this as yet unnamed person, who they quote to suggest that he began the process of setting aside Tea Party cases. The Cincinnati group is responsible for determining if applicants for a certain type of tax-exempt status, 501(c)(4), exceed limits on political activity. This manager, who the Associated Press says was interviewed last week, apparently determined that Tea Party groups collectively warranted a closer look.

An agent brought a Tea Party application to the manager's attention. That application indicated political activity, but not the extent to which it occurred. The manager sent an email to his boss in Cincinnati, reading, in part, "I will hold this case for a decision concerning this type of organization [Ed. - meaning, Tea Party groups] may be considered a 'High Profile Case'." His supervisor agreed.

The committee's investigators inquired about the nature of "high profile cases" — which isn't clearly defined — and the manager suggested that for such cases, ensuring consistent treatment is the goal. "Now, is it prudent for us to then make sure, for consistency purposes, that these cases are worked by the same folks or the same group? The determination was yes, it is," he told investigators.
The manager's team in Cincinnati developed criteria to collect those cases for the group. An agent describes how he decided to focus on one aspect:
And I used "patriots," because some of the Tea Parties wouldn't-they would shorten their name to TP Patriots. I thought, okay, I will use "patriot." And I would see TP Patriots. So even though you think there is two entities, it's really justone. And the 912,whenever you looked at the Websites, you would see the--these other organizations. So I said, okay, I will use these to find the Tea Parties. At one point I used the word "tea," but T-E-A doesn't get you very far because TEDS might have 5,000 entities in there. Teachers. So I had to watch my queries and zero in on what I wanted.

The manager subsequently put together an email noting the four criteria identified in the Inspector General's report as the ones used to set Tea Party applications apart. That email eventually made its way to the department head, Lois Lerner, who asked that the criteria no longer be used.

The Democrats' excerpts are very clear about the manager's politics. He identifies himself as a "conservative Republican," and replied in the negative to questions about whether or not political motivations or instructions from the White House played a role. "I do not believe that the screening of these cases had anything to do other than consistency and identifying issues that needed to have further development," he told investigators.

On Sunday, the minority ranking member, Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, discussed the memo on cable news, as reported by the Washington Post:
“Based upon everything I’ve seen, the case is solved,” Cummings said Sunday on CNN. “And if it were me, I would wrap this case up and move on, to be frank with you.”

That's premature. At some point, we can assume, the full transcripts will be made public, perhaps after the committee is done conducting interviews. (The memo indicates more interviews and document review are yet to come.) Until then, it's premature to assume that every detail has surfaced — particularly when those doing the surfacing each have a political outcome in mind.

The IRS is not waiting for the results of the investigation to do a little housecleaning. According to the National Review, Holly Paz, who Issa suggested knew about the targeting a year before it became public, was reportedly replaced. Paz had served as the director of the department's Rulings and Agreements section. Paz joins at least two other department officials in departing the agency or being placed on administrative leave (her status is not clear).

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Tea Parties are for little girls with imaginary friends

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06-10-2013 05:33 PM  5 years agoPost 2
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Nice try slick.

I'll give you an "E" for Effort.

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06-10-2013 06:18 PM  5 years agoPost 3
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I watched a news show yesterday with a panel of about 15 people representing their Tea Party groups and telling their stories about what they went through (some of them are still waiting for approval after as long as 3 years). Unbelievable abuse of power.

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06-10-2013 06:42 PM  5 years agoPost 4
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Republican IRS manager in Cincinnati identifies himself as the origin of the Tea Party controversy
Really...I did not know that obama and his admin were conservatives....

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06-10-2013 06:47 PM  5 years agoPost 5
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Need' to get Regular -Then he won't have a steamy butt.

I would think if one was from the land of fruit and nut's - they shouldn't have that problem.

Their starting to throw bucket's of it, hoping the public will swallow it like they did all along -- ahh toss enough - something will stick !

Face it they stepped in it - and It will take something much bigger than 911 before they ever get public confidence back.

Several other division's of the branches are starting to quiver

Every day : EPA - Judicial - IRS - List is growing ?? NSA- Endless list of criminal scandal's. Slippery pickle's everywhere

Obama and his minion's Broke it - it's a steamer

Never should of eaten the Magic Beans

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06-10-2013 08:52 PM  5 years agoPost 6
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Nice try slick.
I'll give you an "E" for Effort.
I understand your doubt, the story I posted has actual names of the sources, where the stories you post have anonymous sources.

Tea Parties are for little girls with imaginary friends

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06-10-2013 08:53 PM  5 years agoPost 7
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I understand your doubt, the story I posted has actual names of the sources, where the stories you post have anonymous sources.
OK.

Show me which story I posted has anonymous sources slick.

Come on. You can do it.

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06-10-2013 10:04 PM  5 years agoPost 8
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Show me which story I posted has anonymous sources slick.
Come on. You can do it.
To make things easier I will post the stories you posted that had sources that were not anonymous and used their real names.

Oh wait, that aren't any. Never mind.

Tea Parties are for little girls with imaginary friends

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06-11-2013 02:06 AM  5 years agoPost 9
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Still trying to blame conservatives.
Isnt this administration supposed to be in charge and know what is going on within its ranks.

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06-11-2013 02:35 AM  5 years agoPost 10
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that's what I say.
What's worse?? That he knows it and is behind all of this stuff, or that he's really this incompetent and knows NOTHING about what's happening in his own administration???
I almost think it's worse if he's just that ignorant of his surroundings.

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06-11-2013 02:52 AM  5 years agoPost 11
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he's really this incompetent and knows NOTHING about what's happening in his own administration???
A little history lesson on Nazi Germany and the death camps:
"While no specific order from Hitler authorizing the mass killing has surfaced, there is documentation showing that he approved"

Sound a little bit like odumbo? All the communist in chief needs to do is say what he wants, since everyone he has surrounded himself with is of like mind it will get done. Perfect way to play Sgt Schultz, except you come out looking like an idiot who "knows nothing".

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06-11-2013 01:56 PM  5 years agoPost 12
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I understand your doubt, the story I posted has actual names of the sources, where the stories you post have anonymous sources
Are you talking about yourself? Your story contains Issa's name. Not the conservative IRS workers name or the source's name.
Democratic colleagues starts with the identification of this as yet unnamed person
Have you blocked dilbert? Is that why he had to start a separate thread to reply to this one?

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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06-11-2013 03:58 PM  5 years agoPost 13
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Have you blocked dilbert
I have no one on my ignore list.

Tea Parties are for little girls with imaginary friends

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06-11-2013 04:36 PM  5 years agoPost 14
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According to Fox News his morning we now find out that the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has released personal and private information about farmers to environmental groups.

Another felony.

Nice, real nice.

Doesn't that just give you a nice, cozy, warm feeling all over inside?

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06-11-2013 04:40 PM  5 years agoPost 15
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06-12-2013 05:59 AM  5 years agoPost 16
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SSN Pru
Have you blocked dilbert? Is that why he had to start a separate thread to reply to this one?
Nope...another "dilbert dingdongness"...I hit Create New Topic instead of Post Reply.

PsychoZ hasn't put me on ignore..he just runs and hides after getting spanked.

90% of life is "showing up"

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06-12-2013 06:42 PM  5 years agoPost 17
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PsychoZ hasn't put me on ignore..he just runs and hides after getting spanked.
So you want to spank me but are against gay marriage, interesting your dirty old fart.

Tea Parties are for little girls with imaginary friends

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06-13-2013 04:36 AM  5 years agoPost 18
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PsychoZ
So you want to spank me but are against gay marriage, interesting your dirty old fart.
I am not dirty a lot of the time.

90% of life is "showing up"

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