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06-01-2013 07:42 PM  5 years agoPost 1
Cali_Heli_818

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Im looking at the DJI Phantom & Flamewheel 450 & 550. Also interested in the Bumblebee i saw on helihobby dot com... what do you guys think?

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06-02-2013 02:48 PM  5 years agoPost 2
bart2546

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I can't say enough good things about the Phantom. Anything from stable to fly it just about how you want it.

I think it depends more on where you're going to want to go with it. If you want to customize and modify you may want to go with the F450/550 but if you're okay with stock out of the box TRULY ready to fly and generally leave it as is though...Phantom is where it's at.

Regards, Brandon Bartolomucci; Team Synergy; Team Scorpion; & Team Bavarian Demon; AMA# L939231

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06-02-2013 06:23 PM  5 years agoPost 3
Cali_Heli_818

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I want to learn to for quads with it and eventually attach a camera and do some photography and video and then I want to progress to fpv. I heard the phantom is only capable of a 300m range... Is that true?

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06-02-2013 11:41 PM  5 years agoPost 4
airplanejunkie

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What to Buy?
Boy let me tell you my opinion! I bought a DJI Flamewheel 450. I have sort of become by default the local go to guy. Having to set up other models with other controllers I have had some really unpleasant experiences. Some others can be a sure winner but nothing in the larger models is as easy and painless as the DJI 450. My friends are all sorry they have tried to save a few bucks and wound up with stuff that was plain ole hard to make work and in some cases hasn't worked. The Naza M controller though not perfect, does fly pretty amazing and easy to set up. The Gps option and go home and land are easy and simply amazing.
With all that said, Buy what people in your area are flying. Then you maybe can avoid some hard knocks. If you know of none, and even though it may be a little time consuming you can always call me. DJI is my recommendation. Thanks for asking. Dave George AMA 5129 RW2500 Detroit

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06-03-2013 12:51 AM  5 years agoPost 5
Cali_Heli_818

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how much did you spend on building your f450?

the way i see it its about 800 or so for the ARF kit + Naza v2 + battery + reciever + charger.

I dont fly with anyone so its hard to get a first hand opinion.

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06-03-2013 01:52 AM  5 years agoPost 6
GM1

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And ....
And worth every penny. I have a Flamewheel 550 with Naza-M GPS. AeroXcraft gimbal with GoPro 3 Black. Only change I made was to go with the DJI 10x3.8 props which are a bit better balanced. It has been FLAWLESS. Another club member here duplicated the purchase (except a GoPro 2) and his has also been great. Guys that have gone with more inexpensive combos and, as beginners, have been disappointed and regretted not spending the extra.
Now that I am familiar with multi operation, I can use less expensive flight controllers with some success but would not give up my Naza systems. Will probably purchase a new V2 system for an upcoming FPV project.

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06-03-2013 02:44 AM  5 years agoPost 7
Dr.Tim

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I have to Agree with these guys! I have been flying DJI products for 5 years now .. Simply Love them! You can't go wrong with the NAZA ...

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06-03-2013 02:53 AM  5 years agoPost 8
Cali_Heli_818

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Ok, so am i correct? about 800 or so to complete a f450 package?

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06-03-2013 09:40 AM  5 years agoPost 9
airplanejunkie

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My costs
I paid 600.00 Less the receiver, battery,camera and the landing gear. I use and love the stock DJI 10" props. I also use a JVC GC-XA1 helmet camera and you can not beat this camera.I do not understand why more people don't use this camera. I mount this camera with a stock supplied mounting post and nothing else done except well balanced props. I just looked at my transmitter model total timer and it says 32.06 hours. I have had only one accident, no damage, and that was my fault. I flew it into a tree. Things like that happen as we age a little. Spend the extra and have fun. If funds are a little tight, buy the GPS later as an add on. I use a 3s 3300 lipo and get about 8:30 of flight time. I have added night lights for $30.00. The model is much easier to see at night. I run them off of the main battery they reduce my flight time by 30 seconds. You will not be disappointed! Have Fun...... Dave Oh by the way, I do not know how to hook up or if the Jvc can be used for FPV.

stock JVC camera 240.00
Stock DJI 450/gps 600.00
landing gear 40.00
receiver 75.00
3300 battery 35c 56.00
lights 32.00

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06-03-2013 06:37 PM  5 years agoPost 10
Cali_Heli_818

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I was looking at getting this...

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/view...nid=04005747040

And then I need a receiver, battery & charger I believe.

Are they fairly easy to assemble? and is there soldering involved?

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06-03-2013 10:54 PM  5 years agoPost 11
airplanejunkie

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DO IT !
Right on! You will love it. Dave George

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06-04-2013 01:46 AM  5 years agoPost 12
GM1

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Soldering
Yes, there is minor soldering, ESCS to the bottom power distribution board but, if you solder at all, it's about the easiest I have done. Wires are pre-tinned and large enough to make the work simple. Assembly is trivial, bolts and Loctite. Pay attention to the direction you mount the NAZA as it MUST face a specific direction. There are several DJI videos that help with this and the NAZA setup is really easy ONCE you get the idea. You may have to watch the video and read the manual a couple of times before it sinks in.
Gordie

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06-04-2013 03:05 AM  5 years agoPost 13
Cali_Heli_818

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I've never soldered in my life Haha I don't even have the equipment. Nor have i ever had to set something up such as the Naza. I'm going from Mcpx to this.

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06-04-2013 05:24 AM  5 years agoPost 14
Tahoe Ed

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Then get a Phantom. It will suit you better.

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06-04-2013 05:41 AM  5 years agoPost 15
Cali_Heli_818

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That's what I was thinking but i dont like the Tx and i dont like the fact the phantoms range is only 300 meters. I eventually want to use the multi rotor for pictures video and further along, fpv. so I don't want to have to get another quad for that. But I do like the ease of the phantom and the price.

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06-04-2013 12:33 PM  5 years agoPost 16
cabojay

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Ebay
Thats the same 450 i bought off of ebay, Love it they are a lot of fun easy to build and setup there is so many outlets for building and setting up. Good luck do whats best for you.. Jay

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06-04-2013 12:40 PM  5 years agoPost 17
RDale

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"IF" you are indeed considering the Phantom - you might want to check out the yet-to-be-released Phantom "Vision" which integrates an FPV system.

Last information that I read was that it was slated to be released in June / July.

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06-04-2013 07:11 PM  5 years agoPost 18
R Hudson

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Buy a Phantom sans-radio, use your own radio and receiver, and you'll have longer range than with the stock radio. The only real advantage of the F450 over the Phantom as far as performance goes is the ability to carry more payload. I have owned 2 F450s, one F550, and my Phantom is by far the most fun I've had. They are all nice in their own ways but the Phantom is just perfect for my needs right now.

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06-04-2013 08:30 PM  5 years agoPost 19
Cali_Heli_818

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Hm, Phantom Vision doesnt look too bad. Ill have to see the details when it comes out. But i am liking the F450 the more in research it. I going to the LHS this weekend to see the phantom in person and maybe theyll have an F450 to compare.

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06-09-2013 12:32 AM  5 years agoPost 20
MichiganFlyer

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I have a X666 from Hobby King with a Naza. Installed the GPS today. Gimbal and taller skids are on the way in a slow boat. Now to save for FPV equipment.
Shot the pics myself. Set the controller down, Grabbed the camera and took pics. Love it.



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