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05-28-2013 12:50 AM  5 years agoPost 41
McKrackin

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MA is made in USA so parts will be good.
So is Avant

Love mine.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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05-28-2013 01:14 AM  5 years agoPost 42
Helicrazy4

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TSA I have heard great things about it!
Nice Heli Mckrackin us made !

Following Jesus

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05-28-2013 01:27 AM  5 years agoPost 43
jschenck

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I've been flying both my Trekker and my 700n lately. The trekker is nice because it's simpley plug in the battery and fly. But I find that I like the nitro primarily for one reason - after flying for 2-3 minutes on my trekker I find myself backing off of it so I won't puff the battery packs. With a nitro (or gasser) I can keep flying it without worrying about that. Example - shooting auto's, I can do full throttle climbs until I run out of fuel, doesn't feel right to do that with the big E - concerns about packs. Just don't run out of fuel (or talent) 3' off the ground - done both with my 700n recently.

my experience =

E - easy, clean. can fly all day once you have a generator and charging setup. expensive up front if you get a lot of packs or a field charging system

N - pretty easy once you figure out how to tune it, don't have to worry about puffing a pack pushing it too hard. $4-$5 a flight for fuel (700 size)

G - pennies a flight, if you get the hang of tuning them.

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05-28-2013 02:09 AM  5 years agoPost 44
honda411

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Mckrakin: that's pretty nice. I didn't know they were made in USA also. I always liked the way they looked and sound.
I forgot about tsa.

I hate baby sitting packs when I'm done flying and only have two sets of packs

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05-28-2013 02:11 AM  5 years agoPost 45
1heliman

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Nitro all the way...... if for nothing but the smell!

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05-28-2013 02:34 AM  5 years agoPost 46
dchekas

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Farmington, CT

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I really enjoy the Nitro machines.

A gallon of fuel, starter, my machine, and transmitter is a good afternoon of flying. I just find it easier and more convenient than lugging my Honda 2000, batteries, charging case, helicopter and transmitter out with me.

That being said, some days the electric is a blast to just slam around and beat the crap out of. Gets the adrenaline pumping.

These days, I really think people need one of each. The nitro for practice, and the electric to beat up for fun.

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05-28-2013 02:42 AM  5 years agoPost 47
flydan

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I do not want to offend anyone, but here is my opinion on .90 models out.
The Aurora is pretty old, I think 06 old. That and nothing really new from them except their updates to the models, That being said seems like they are on their way out?

The outrage 90, Had many gear stripping issues, and just a huge number of quality control issues, Again not every person will have these results but its there. That being said, Noone is really flying outrage anymore. As a matter of fact last years IRCHA didnt have an outrage booth. So they might be on the way out.

The MA wippy 90, Seems like a cool heli, I honestly dont know much about it nor seen many or flown one. Cant comment too much on that for those reasons.

The trex 700n best bang for the buck, I am talking the old trex 700 the LE and the pro, None of that DFC stff . This heli all around I think is designed well, and is pretty sturdy in crashes, Its super simple to work on, very light flying in the air I just love it.

As for the 600 nitro i see being mentioned, I pretty much learned on that heli, I think its an awesome bird, the old one again.
It was always problem free for me.

Again those are my thoughts, I just got back into nitro myself, and Oh man I missed it.

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05-28-2013 03:08 AM  5 years agoPost 48
McKrackin

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06 old?
Are you off your rocker?lol

Wow....

I literally never use the word literally right.

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05-28-2013 03:09 AM  5 years agoPost 49
flydan

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Of course you would reply....

Watch at YouTube

A year off.. big deal.

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05-28-2013 03:10 AM  5 years agoPost 50
McKrackin

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Do at least a little research.lmao...

I literally never use the word literally right.

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05-28-2013 03:12 AM  5 years agoPost 51
McKrackin

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The name is old.

So is Trex

I literally never use the word literally right.

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05-28-2013 03:17 AM  5 years agoPost 52
flydan

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Yup, Your always right. Forgot that silly me.
I'll now let you talk a guy into a purchase he eventually wont be able to get parts for.
Ill run along now

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05-28-2013 03:20 AM  5 years agoPost 53
ICUR1-2

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it was suppose to be released in early 07 I believe, then the famous delays started.
I could dig up the old posts, Avant was a running joke for while because of it.

ALIGN rules for inexpensive, everywhere parts.

all the others are limited to certain LHS's
if you got the cash, go for what ever you can get parts for.

spending time, paying attention

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05-28-2013 03:23 AM  5 years agoPost 54
BobOD

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but may go back to nitro because of initial cost and flight times
Actually, I would say the initial cost is higher for Nitro. The only thing that would tip it would be a generator.

Yes, the nitro will give you more flight time. Sure electrics can get flight times as long but for a given amount of power, the Nitro will go longer.

As for maintenance, the way I see it is the battery is the main maintenance item with electric. Mostly just an expense plus a little soldering. I did have a Scorpion that liked to eat bearings once but haven't had such issues in quite some time now. Maintenance on a Nitro takes a little more effort, and probably close to the same expense.

I do find Nitro more portable. Yes, the flight pack needs to be charged but if I only get a few flights in, moot point. When it does need a charge I use my pocket charger plugged into my car.

Operating cost varies quite a lot. If you have multiple helis that take different sized packs it can get you. Generally, I find electrics are cheaper to run. But, 5 bucks for a Nitro flight is a bargain AFAIC.

I'm not sure what to call this but there's a complexity with batteries. Often I'll have a heli that takes a particular pack that nothing else uses. I may only fly this heli on rare occasion. So, is it worth buying a pack for a heli you're only going to fly a couple times? The heli might as well be trash, or need a new power system maybe. All my Nitros run on the same jug.

Basically, I couldn't imagine not having both. Overall, I do enjoy Nitro more. Mostly for the power/flight time characteristics but I also tend to enjoy things that take more skill in the build and servicing.

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05-28-2013 03:46 AM  5 years agoPost 55
Helifat

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Got a trex 450 dfc to get my feet wet on electric and liked it...then I just got a Goblin 500 that is still waiting for me to build But I won't until I get all the parts needed to complete....BUT MY TREX 700N IS THE ONE I'M IN LOVE WITH!!

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05-28-2013 08:16 AM  5 years agoPost 56
honda411

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BobOD: Thanks for the in depth post. I definitely have something to think about.
So if were talking nitro, and someone that has moderate to good collective management, which engine is best? I have flown a friends trex700 with the ys120 and had gobs of power. I in fact could not bog it.

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05-28-2013 10:04 AM  5 years agoPost 57
McKrackin

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The OS105HZ-R has about the same power as the YS120 and it's way easier to tune for power.

The YS engine has a history of being hard to tune.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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05-28-2013 10:22 AM  5 years agoPost 58
rexxigpilot

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I have no problem with nitro helis. It is the cost and ready unavailability of nitro fuel that's the problem!

Since our club got electrical power about 4 years ago, nitro helis and planks have all but disappeared entirely. It is all electric now except for large planks that use gasoline. This is by choice, not mandated.

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05-28-2013 01:05 PM  5 years agoPost 59
Andy from Sandy

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The disadvantage for nitro will be the atomospherics you fly in. The UK has a marked difference between winter and summer. The winter air is very good for nitros.

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05-28-2013 01:44 PM  5 years agoPost 60
chris6414

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More like scale
I have always been facinated with aircraft and flight but real flying for me was and is cost prohibitive. RC was my answer and I enjoy how you must build, fuel, tune, maintain and fly like the full size. Which includes pre and post flight servicing just like the full size ones I have worked on in the military. I had a 450 for awhile but it just didn't fill that niche for me anymore. I still have my first nitro and last year picked up a gasser. Both need servicing and the gasser is even more realistic due to it's size. Vibration is greater so the need for pre and post flight inspections is more critical and the tinkering is 1/3 of the enjoyment for me. To know I found a worn link or loose screw during and inspection gives me fullfillment that when I launch, I know it will fly safely. The gasser flight times are just amazing. Being able to do touch and gos and some sport flying for 30 minutes is just unmatched by anything out there. Even my Hawk Sport with mild setting can stay aloft for almost 20 minutes. The smell of nitro always takes me back to when RC was new for me 20 years ago and that you cannot put a price on.

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