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06-11-2013 05:48 PM  5 years agoPost 161
GREYEAGLE

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He's writting his Own Book : For use: while sitting in the House of Depository

So he can make money while sitting on the Toilet :

" How to Re- write History " and get away with IT

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06-11-2013 06:19 PM  5 years agoPost 162
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Just so you know there are only two facts known about him by scholars. His crucifixion, and his baptism by JtB- outhouse
And his name (Yeshua, or Joshua or Jesus in Greek form)
And that he was Jewish
And that he lived in what we call Palestine
And that he had disciples
And that he taught
And worked wonders
And was crucified
And it was under Pontius Pilate that he was condemned
And that his followers grew greatly in numbers after his death
And that the message of his resurrection spread over the known world.
And that there are several reliable detailed records of his life and deeds
And that some later Jewish writings speak disdainfully of him.
And that the grave is empty.

And that He's Returning! But now as he really is, King over all kings. Oh, let that one slip in. He said so, and I believe it based on this his promise, and on all the other historical evidence that he is and does just what the bible records.

Never, ever, ever, ever give up.

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06-11-2013 06:22 PM  5 years agoPost 163
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How To Piss Off A Liberal: Tip #28

Refute all liberal talking points with the phrase "Not according to the Bible."

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06-11-2013 06:32 PM  5 years agoPost 164
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all those facts go with the first two I mentioned.

but your wrong with a few
And that the grave is empty.

And that there are several reliable detailed records of his life and deeds

And worked wonders

And his name (Yeshua, or Joshua or Jesus in Greek form)
Not facts.

the name also works out to be Yahweh saves, which makes it questionable.

Ill run with it as a possibility, it was a common name.

The Aramaic dialect would have made it more of a Yehoshua though then Yeshua which would have been a Jerusalem dialect.

He was a man, and died like one. working wonders is not a fact.

Gospels are part fiction and mythology surrounding a historical core, they are FACTUALLY not reliable at all.

Grave empty, his body was probably thrown in a pit. not a fact.

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06-11-2013 06:36 PM  5 years agoPost 165
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outhouse, staking your life that your take on these things is right? Carefully my man. The ice there is very thin. Remember the things I've said- one day you'll find yourself at a crossroads. I'll be praying for you (that we can celebrate together on That Day).

Never, ever, ever, ever give up.

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06-11-2013 06:38 PM  5 years agoPost 166
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Outhouse, I am most decidedly not ignorant of most of those you've listed there, nor of the conclusions they espouse. I disagree with them. I believe that the spurious conclusions that some such as the Jesus Seminar folks and others have come to are directly tied to pre-conception about the miraculous, and perhaps general disdain for Christian orthodoxy.
The apostle Paul was indeed a murderer (self confessed), but was profoundly changed and so convinced of the truth of Jesus' resurrection that he gave his remaining life to the gospel, and finally paid with his own blood for his beliefs. The eye witnesses Paul refers to in his letters are not those he murdered, as you should well know.
If you must distort or disregard the truth to keep your faith, then yours is a poor faith indeed
You would like Ben Witherington, he is a apologetic scholar.

Paul really doesn't discuss the real Human Jesus.

Paul deals with dead Jesus in a heaven, and the theology Paul created and spemds the rest of his life defending.

Im sure Paul may have talked to eyewitnesses, most of the Hellenistic Jews and Proselytes probably had a chance to see him crucified as Passover, it was a huge event.

Doesn't mean they knew the Galilean Jew personally, or ever witnessed the Galilean alive.

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06-11-2013 06:41 PM  5 years agoPost 167
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outhouse, staking your life that your take on these things is right? Carefully my man. The ice there is very thin. Remember the things I've said- one day you'll find yourself at a crossroads. I'll be praying for you (that we can celebrate together on That Day).
Theres nothing after death. That is factually known mythology.

And if seeking the real Jesus that lived and keeping good morals, would tick off a god, then I don't want any part of him or that mythical afterlife

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06-11-2013 06:43 PM  5 years agoPost 168
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funny ??? God creates science so man can live and evolve for the better and then some one says "God is not necessary" (Jim scratches head, doesn't get it)

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06-11-2013 06:56 PM  5 years agoPost 169
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Theres nothing after death. That is factually known mythology.
It would be totally impossible to prove that to the rest of us.

But, you can prove it to yourself.

Be my guest.

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06-11-2013 07:09 PM  5 years agoPost 170
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Hitchens , he too does not understand God and Faith, he is simply self arrogant, you can easily see it in him, poor guy

Dennis, did you see his hate rise as he was yapping ?? it's like he is mad at every one that has Faith, poor guy

Jim
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06-11-2013 07:12 PM  5 years agoPost 171
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I don't think he is alive anymore

They kinda age quick : "According to what the Bible Say's "

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06-11-2013 07:26 PM  5 years agoPost 172
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I don't think he is alive anymore
I wonder what his last thoughts were, I'm betting on>>> "what if"

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06-12-2013 02:36 AM  5 years agoPost 173
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God creates science so man can live and evolve for the better and then some one says "God is not necessary"
Man factually created science over thousands of years, so that we can see the mythology of ancient man, and understand his shortcoming's of creating mythology for the natural world he knew nothing about when using mythology to explain his belief.

Canaanites factually evolved into Proto Israelites after 1200 BC
Moses has no historicity
Noah has no historicity
Exodus has no historicity

The OT took almost a thousand years to complete after being redacted for the same amount of time to mirror the ever changing culture.

You cant teach mutts new tricks.

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06-12-2013 02:43 AM  5 years agoPost 174
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Man factually created science over thousands of years, so that we can see the mythology of ancient man, and understand his shortcoming's of creating mythology for the natural world he knew nothing about when using mythology to explain his belief.

Canaanites factually evolved into Proto Israelites after 1200 BC
Moses has no historicity
Noah has no historicity
Exodus has no historicity

The OT took almost a thousand years to complete after being redacted for the same amount of time to mirror the ever changing culture.
There should always be great suspicion of any man who truly believes that everything he says is factual.

This is where a lack of even a high school education shines like the bright sun.

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06-12-2013 05:20 AM  5 years agoPost 175
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Quack quack quack

Quack quack quack quack

Quack.

yellow ducky is watching you! he knows your every thought!

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06-12-2013 11:56 AM  5 years agoPost 176
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Denny, are we listening to the diminishing voice
of a simple man, so set in his ways, that even God
already knows that this one will never repent?

These are the ones, the scripture announces, will perish.

When one already knows it all, ya just can't
teach them anything new.

It's Sad

I wonder if he knows THE PASCALIAN WAGER.

I love gravity, it always keeps my feet planted when I fly!

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06-12-2013 02:10 PM  5 years agoPost 177
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Helimatt
Hoggy, the stories you listed are just that- mythological stories with no basis in historical fact. Little to NO manuscript evidence, and what there is point decisevely to mythologies that were re-interpreted and embellished through ages.
Hold on just a moment there these stories don't bother you at all. I'm going to recap them for you.
Egyptian Book of the Dead 1280BC The God Horus
Horus is the son of the God Osiris born of the virgin Isis on December 25th.
Baptized by Anup the Baptizer when he was thirty years old.
Horus healed the sick the blind cast out demons.
He had twelve disciples and performed miracles such as feeding bread to the multitude and walking on water.
He raised one man, El-Azar-us from the dead "Azar" Translates to "Lazarus"
Horus was crucified buried in a tomb and resurrected.
Now that's a long time before Jesus. Now Egypt is a real place so it was written there that's historical evidence.

Mirtha of Persia 600years before Jesus.
Born Dec25th performed miracles.
He was crucified and then resurrected on the 3rd day.
Known as the lamb the way the truth the light the saviour etc.

This left goes on. Now your saying they have no historical evidence. Does it matter? really I'm not saying they are the true gods or any BS like that. Fact is these have been translated and that's what they say. You say they have "Little to NO manuscript evidence" Are you surprised by that? it's widely accepted that the early Christians destroyed all other religions they could defeat and they burnt many texts. Anyway it doesn't matter these stories are before the bible and they are so similar that either the writers of the bible used this information when they fabricated it. Or God made it happen just as the previous religions had said. One of these is logical.

Also if your going to bang on about Historical evidence please show me your best hand because so far I've seen nothing that could be considered evidence. Do you have DNA from Jesus showing that Mary was his mother and at the very least Joseph was not his farther. Do you have any other books other then the bible that support your claim. Can you show me his empty tomb? although that doesn't prove anything. Honestly Helimatt if you were walking through a grave yard and seen an empty grave lets say fresh 3 days old would you assume the person had become a zombie or saviour? that is not the best explanation for an empty grave.

Outhouse
If you don't reject the Yellow Ducky and accept the Flying Spaghetti Monster we are going to have to go to war I will have to kill your people all of them the kids too and kill all of the animals and burn your city. Yes I know this goes against some of the teachings of the FSM but it depends on which bit your reading and how well it suits me at the time.

Helimatt please watch this and tell me would you buy the car. Please watch to the end of the credits there is a very important message.

Watch at YouTube

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06-12-2013 06:28 PM  5 years agoPost 178
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06-12-2013 06:31 PM  5 years agoPost 179
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Hoggy, as I said, those legends and myths have little to no documenation to when they originated. Most or all of what you've listed comes from fanciful interpretaions made much later IN THE LIGHT OF JESUS, and HIS GOSPEL history. In other words, the greatest, most influential and persisting message of all times has been infiltrating even old myths with little detail to go on in-and-of themselves.

Numerous books have been written addressing those things, and nobody BUT NOBODY gives any credence to the supposed similarities nor to the fabricated theory (not based on any reasonable factual evidence) that the Gospel narratives borrowed from or copied those myths.

Good grief man have some discernment.

And won't waste time I don't have to watch the video.

Never, ever, ever, ever give up.

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06-12-2013 06:40 PM  5 years agoPost 180
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Born Dec25th performed miracles.
Jesus wasn't born on Dec 25th, so what does that matter? Just one illustration of the spurious and flatly infantile attempt to draw these connections.

Never, ever, ever, ever give up.

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