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05-12-2013 09:12 AM  6 years ago
ICUR1-2

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even If the parents knew about the show and tell ( I'm sure they were not fully aware of potential danger).

it should have been done in a baseball park where there is some protection
or shown a video and have the kid explain how it works

it was more about showing off than education
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05-12-2013 01:18 PM  6 years ago
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Most ya'll, also let your kids on roller costers, and stuff of the likes. But I have never set foot on one and never will. Now thats what I call a death trap.
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05-12-2013 02:37 PM  6 years ago
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it was more about showing off than education
You can't be serious.....What talent contest is NOT more about showing off than education?
I literally never use the word literally right.
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05-12-2013 02:39 PM  6 years ago
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Most ya'll, also let your kids on roller costers, and stuff of the likes. But I have never set foot on one and never will. Now thats what I call a death trap.
Awesome point.lol....Too scary for Mom and Dad but they will let their kids go.lol....

Look up RC related deaths in the past few years and then look up amusement park related deaths....Compare those numbers for a while.
I literally never use the word literally right.
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05-12-2013 04:19 PM  6 years ago
ICUR1-2

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it was supposed to be a show and tell not a talent contestspending time, paying attention
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05-12-2013 04:22 PM  6 years ago
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It was a talent contest and he won 1st place...Do you read the threads?

Even the title?

Flyin Ryan 1st grade Talent Contest flying for the class.
I literally never use the word literally right.
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05-12-2013 04:38 PM  6 years ago
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it was more about showing off than education
I honestly didn't see it that way.... but now that you mention education, I don't think it would be too bad of an idea if they took advantage of the obvious interest the kids now have in the helicopter for educational purposes.

I'm sure Ryan would do a great job of explaining how it all works, and the 'physics' involved in flight... it could certainly do for a great subject in the 1st grade science class.
Most ya'll, also let your kids on roller costers, and stuff of the likes. But I have never set foot on one and never will.
Unless we're talking about a roller coaster in some 3rd world country, I think you would find that they are much safer than RC helis, statistically speaking.

Odd reasoning.
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05-12-2013 04:44 PM  6 years ago
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Awesome point.
Really??

I see you in new light.
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05-12-2013 05:55 PM  6 years ago
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I saw the video as placing an entire class of 1st graders and teachers in a dangerous situation. As non-modellers, I don't believe they or their parents were really aware of the power and energy that is stored in those CF blades at full idleup, and how many "single points of failure" there are in a model helicopter.
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It is only a matter of when, not if, someone gets decapitated making a YouTube video chasing sponsorships.
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A 700-size helicopter failed over a large crowd in Asia a couple months ago, killing at least one and maiming his child.
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It is still beyond me why AMA still provides insurance coverage to guys flying "close 3D" with model helicopters. I also don't understand why CD's and club administrators allow it at their sanctioned fly-in's. Perhaps it is because flying large helicopters close to yourself did not happen suddenly, but has happened incrementally over several years. Once the "peanut gallery" stops watching the sponsored pilots fly low, then the only place they had to go to get attention was closer. Now it is simply a game of who can fly closer and faster to themselves, trying keep the attention of the crowd and the money flowing. Until sponsors or the crowd put a stop to it, the race to fly closer and lower (and younger) will continue.
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05-12-2013 06:20 PM  6 years ago
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I saw the video as placing an entire class of 1st graders and teachers in a dangerous situation. As non-modellers, I don't believe they or their parents were really aware of the power and energy that is stored in those CF blades at full idleup, and how many "single points of failure" there are in a model helicopter.
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Agreed.
I would have insisted that my grandkids sit behind a chainlink fence or similar obstacle to watch. If non available, then they would not have been there.
His flying skills were outstanding, but a mechanical or electrical failure overrides all skill levels.
Sorry to be a safety nazi (as some will call me) but a childs safety is not an option, in my opinion.
I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?
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05-12-2013 06:48 PM  6 years ago
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That video bothered me due to lack of consideration. One individual is okay with subjecting their own child to the potential dangers of an RC helicopter. That is their right, their choice and non of my business.
However, for one individual to assume that all those other parents would make the same choice is ignorant And disrespectful. It sickens me to even begin thinking about what a 700 size helicopter could do to a small squishy child...
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05-12-2013 07:26 PM  6 years ago
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Most flying clubs don't allow non ama or non members into the pit area.Why put a classroom in the same amount of space?

it was a nice idea and a bad idea at the same time hopefully next time it will have a fence nearby for them to watch from

some talent show
what did the other non sponsored kids have to show ?
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05-12-2013 07:36 PM  6 years ago
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That video bothered me due to lack of consideration. One individual is okay with subjecting their own child to the potential dangers of an RC helicopter. That is their right, their choice and non of my business.
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And I disagree even with that. I don't believe that a 10 year old child has any concept of the damage potential that a 700-size rotor system is capable of. At the Huntsville Fun-Fly, I watched a small boy standing next to his father popping the blades of 700-class helicopters so close to their faces that they had to flinch their heads backwards. Between flights, you could hear the father working sponsorship deals with the business guys who were working the flight line.
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My only thought was about what that little boy's life would be like if he decapitates his own father in front of 100's of people.
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05-12-2013 08:24 PM  6 years ago
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A 700-size helicopter failed over a large crowd in Asia a couple months ago, killing at least one and maiming his child.
It killed the child and maimed the father.

If you're going to spout irrelevant crap,get the facts straight.
Those helis were being flown over a crowd of people who didn't even know the helis would be there.

The heli in this debate never even moved into forward flight...A failure would most likely have sent it straight down to the asphalt.
Even a thrown blade would have all but stopped before it covered the distance to the spectators.

You people are scared by his age...admit it to yourselves at least.
You EEEWWWW and AAAHHH over MUCH worse flights by the older pros.
Most of you participate in worse....
I literally never use the word literally right.
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05-12-2013 08:29 PM  6 years ago
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Half these people are probably drunk!

Watch at YouTube

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05-12-2013 08:37 PM  6 years ago
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Half these people are probably drunk!
So what, it isn't on school property with a bunch of first graders nearby. So what the heck does that have to do with this safety discussion relating to school children
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A failure would most likely have sent it straight down to the asphalt.
Agreed, but notice you said "MOST LIKELY", not positively.
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This is my opinion and you are not going to change it. Kids are way to precious to expose them to even an unlikely accident.
As for the age of the pilot, I love it..
I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?
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05-12-2013 08:40 PM  6 years ago
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I don't want to change your opinion.
I'm not going to change mine.

All I can say is you people should stay away from helis and hide your kids.

I would almost always agree with the safety preachers on threads like this but THIS video is not a bad or dangerous situation.
I literally never use the word literally right.
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05-12-2013 08:42 PM  6 years ago
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Agreed, but notice you said "MOST LIKELY", not positively.
That's right but keep in mind those kids are sitting in one place and there are trillions and trillions and trillions of other directions the heli might go in the event of a failure.
I literally never use the word literally right.
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05-12-2013 09:12 PM  6 years ago
ICUR1-2

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Hard to say from video, exactly how close the kids actualy are.
Videos and real life differ in perspective.
Still a measure of safety must have been in place. That or those teachers are complete idiots for allowing a dangerous situation if it was.

I am glad I don't have kids to worry about
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05-13-2013 02:10 AM  6 years ago
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It killed the child and maimed the father. If you're going to spout irrelevant crap,get the facts straight.
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Well, that's much better.
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