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05-11-2013 06:59 PM  6 years ago
McKrackin

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This will be my last post on the matter.
One can only hope.
I literally never use the word literally right.
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05-11-2013 07:05 PM  6 years ago
McKrackin

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What planning are you talking of.
Also how is it you know of everyones approval to his flying that heli.
Are you for real?
It's a school talent contest...You think they just sprang up and said HEY let's have a school talent contest in a few minutes?

The acts are always cataloged weeks or months before the contest.
The list of acts is sent home to the parents...Just in case they take issue with any of the acts....The PC crowd has made that happen.

How do I know anything about approval?
I honestly don't but since he has done it four times and I KNOW how 6-7 year olds prattle on about school activities,I can easily assume that the parents at least KNEW it was going to happen and since no one has done anything to stop it after three previous times,approval can be inferred.

I also actually read the threads and I see where the OP said that everyone was ok with it.
I literally never use the word literally right.
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05-11-2013 07:21 PM  6 years ago
HeliOCD

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Hope dashed...

Some people will never get it.
It seems one should not worry about others safety.
You may not care, I will always..
Its all earth!
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05-11-2013 08:15 PM  6 years ago
McKrackin

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I have no idea how anyone could get that I don't care about safety from anything I said but....Oh wellI literally never use the word literally right.
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05-11-2013 08:15 PM  6 years ago
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because we are operating in a controlled kaos and we are the masters, to a point, but to a flaw occasionally when we lose control or push the envelope.

As long as no one is hurt the hobby continues unimproved on in the area of safety. Kind of like the benefits/excitement out weight the risk.

It would have sent a better message to all concerned, and ignorant parents, to get them behind a fence regardless of how good a flyer is or how old they are. Potential for harm and or death should not be taken lightly by anyone.

If perhaps that heli hit a 7 year old pilot and killed them, dad would be furious, the community very upset no safety measures were taken, and wonder wtf is a 7 year old flying a huge machine, 'cause dad likes it?

Sometimes ya gotta say no, not ready, not here, not now.
the OP said that everyone was ok with it.
Don't believe everything you read.
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05-11-2013 08:46 PM  6 years ago
McKrackin

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Perspective.

Let's talk safety....

Watch at YouTube

I literally never use the word literally right.
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05-11-2013 09:40 PM  6 years ago
dkshema

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The demo flight was well done. There was more separation between the kids and the pilot than we see at quite a few fun flies and fly-ins. The demonstration itself was well out in front of the pilot, and the maneuvers were performed at altitude, not down on the deck. The maneuvers themselves were benign and there wasn't a lot of risk in any of the maneuvers flown. The entire repertoire was flown at a reasonable pace, and the speed of the heli remained relatively slow and constant.

The flight area was clear. This demo fell well within the safety guidelines established by the AMA safety code.
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05-11-2013 10:05 PM  6 years ago
Supertoyz

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I would have had no problem with my kids attending that demonstration.....beyond that I'm out since I have nothing nice to say.
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05-11-2013 10:25 PM  6 years ago
Havoc

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You have liability insurance via AMA. The insurance company ultimately dictates the rules as they want to keep pay outs to a minimum. The rules were followed. If there wasn't risk then there would be no AMA. Without exposing people to the hobby, there would be no hobby.
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05-11-2013 10:29 PM  6 years ago
McKrackin

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Finally some great commentsI literally never use the word literally right.
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05-12-2013 03:31 AM  6 years ago
HeliOCD

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So do you also think race track safety fences are unnessary, or in sports and on roads, etc.. It looks like you guys are not to keen on the safety of others by your posts. Whats the problem with added safety? I really think your tune would change if you son or daughter were killed or blinded, or maybe for you, it wouldent..Its all earth!
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05-12-2013 03:39 AM  6 years ago
McKrackin

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Who said ANYTHING against safety precautions?

All that was said is that this video is not that bad and that you have preached enough about it and we have all read it.

You have made your point well known...Move along.

Preaching a point and running it in the ground does nothing for its validity.
I literally never use the word literally right.
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05-12-2013 03:46 AM  6 years ago
dkshema

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I can see why your screen name includes "OCD". Time for your meds.

The demonstration, in spite of lack of fences, chains, bars, helmets, safety belts, earplugs and protective glasses, was run within acceptable standards for safety. The kids at that demonstration ran a higher risk of being seriously injured in a a car accident, bus accident, or even riding their bicycles.

How high would the fence need to be for this to be safe, in your opinion? Do you attend fun flies, or do you attend the IRCHA Jamboree? How high are the fences separating your flight line at the local flying site from the spectators and parking area? What do you hide under or behind at the local flying site when others are in the air?

Most of us consider safety on a daily basis when we fly. As an AMA Contest Director, Leader Member, and having been past and present club officer, there was nothing particularly dangerous or scary about that demo. Again, the demo environment was well controlled, the pilot maintained a safe distance and altitude at all times, and even the routine was particularly low risk and well performed.
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05-12-2013 03:59 AM  6 years ago
BladeStrikes

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VERY well said Dave...
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05-12-2013 04:17 AM  6 years ago
HeliOCD

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You seem to be the only one im wasting my time on. My bad for sure.
You miss the point so many times. I thought maybe I could get you to feel different about other peoples safety, i was wrong. Take care...
Its all earth!
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05-12-2013 04:21 AM  6 years ago
McKrackin

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You are arguing a point that I am not disagreeing with.

All I said is you've said it enough times.

You are inventing any points I made because I haven't made one...Or even tried.
I literally never use the word literally right.
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05-12-2013 06:36 AM  6 years ago
pjones

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I cant find the thread of the little fellow's school demo anywhere. I've tried the search function. Could someone copy a link or post the video so there is a reference to what this thread is about? Its my fault really, I've been away from this board for to long. This video that is spoken about has really caught my interest though. I'm really curious to see what side of the fence I will stand on.
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05-12-2013 07:01 AM  6 years ago
McKrackin

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Flyin Ryan....

https://rc.runryder.com/t735150p1/

It's the first thread on the main discussion board.
I literally never use the word literally right.
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05-12-2013 07:30 AM  6 years ago
Rotormaster

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o, all you over the top safety people, why are you flying these death machines?
Because I like it?

I don't understand what you are trying to say...
The demo flight was well done. There was more separation between the kids and the pilot than we see at quite a few fun flies and fly-ins. The demonstration itself was well out in front of the pilot, and the maneuvers were performed at altitude, not down on the deck. The maneuvers themselves were benign and there wasn't a lot of risk in any of the maneuvers flown. The entire repertoire was flown at a reasonable pace, and the speed of the heli remained relatively slow and constant.
The flight area was clear. This demo fell well within the safety guidelines established by the AMA safety code.
+1
beyond that I'm out since I have nothing nice to say.
Why do you have to say something nice? We are having a discussion here, not kissing each other's ass.

I honestly don't understand some of you guys. You have no issue at all with running your mouth all over the proud father's thread... but as soon as I make a dedicated thread for the topic and invite you to come, you all suddenly loose interest.
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05-12-2013 07:36 AM  6 years ago
Rotormaster

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Well the sun is out, and it's mother's day today... I'm going out for a flight!
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