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05-10-2013 03:01 AM  6 years ago
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yannick

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Have you looked at the spare parts prices for the E820?
I was waiting for it and about to press the add to card magic button, until I looked at spares prices...

Man, my 800 Xxtreme crash looked cheap compared to what a E820 crash will cost...

What it TT thinking???
Is it me or this time the ground was higher than last time??
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05-10-2013 04:13 AM  6 years ago
RCSavager

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What it TT thinking???
The new golf course behind the shop... /sigh

But nice catch though. Saved yourself down the road. Maybe do what women do...

When you do find your next heli and she squawks about it tell her something like, "but honey I saved money by buying this one".
Once you try steak, is hard to go back to hotdogs.
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05-10-2013 05:27 AM  6 years ago
nickmaxwell

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If you don't mind me asking, where was the price listing you were referencing to?

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Nick
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05-10-2013 07:01 AM  6 years ago
OICU812

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TT can't survive if they keep up this structure. Everyone goes cheaper TT increases?.... Stupid......Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...
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05-11-2013 02:36 AM  6 years ago
f2000ez

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Where is the price list?

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05-11-2013 04:03 AM  6 years ago
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05-11-2013 06:17 AM  6 years ago
yannick

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100 USD for a boom + drive shaft.
50 USD for a set of thrust bearings.
...

you can also check here
http://www.modelhelicopters.co.uk/h...aptor-e820.html
Is it me or this time the ground was higher than last time??
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05-12-2013 01:51 AM  6 years ago
Dr.Ben

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Interesting nonlinearity in prices from Midland. Their price on G4 series thrust races is 25% higher than what we pay in the US.

Ben Minor
Peak Aircraft/Team Minicopter Team Futaba Team Kontronik USA
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07-18-2013 02:30 AM  6 years ago
Kloss08

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I looked at tower for a boom and shaft and it comes to 67.00$ and 34.00$ for thrust bearings.Team Futaba
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Enjoy it today
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07-18-2013 02:44 AM  6 years ago
Wedge77

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I didn't find any parts on tower for this heli? did I overlook them?JR NEX E8, 12 cell
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07-18-2013 02:48 AM  6 years ago
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09-03-2013 06:24 AM  6 years ago
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The prices look about right for a nice, big heli but the grips, frames, and body sure are expensive. I wouldn't want to crash it!
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09-04-2013 03:51 AM  6 years ago
Dr.Ben

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Grips: Set of two, billet not cast, and complete with all bearings including the thrust races.

Frames: One piece carbon for the whole side. Pretty much on par with other one piece side framed models that use good carbon.

Canopy: Yeah, not nickel and dime, but Fusuno will certainly have one for those who need need a less costly option.

No, not a model to be smacking into the ground each weekend, but the very best of helis are designed to be flown, not crashed. This one will unequivocally be one of the most trouble free you could ever care to own, and as those who saw Tom-Erik at IRCHA with his E820, little or nothing approaches its presence in the air.

Ben Minor
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09-04-2013 04:42 AM  6 years ago
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"Team Thunder Tiger" eh? No worries! I would love to have the E820, I downloaded the manual and it looks very nice. I believe the quality is second to none here. I put it in the same class as a Logo Extreme and I love the big orange factory body. But parts are not inexpensive. They aren't for my TDR either.
The only other heli I am considering is the Protos stretch 800 (not out yet).
This is an off topic question but what I really don't understand is why isn't it direct to swash? I like the stock push/pull setup for nitro's like my Rave ENV but I thought most electrics were going direct... I'm not an engineer, just wondering.
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09-04-2013 04:49 AM  6 years ago
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I was a big hater of the bell cranks until I learned what they did.

0 trim setup (all the links are fixed besides the top two). More equal resolution between 0 and full pitch plus more pitch + total cyclic travel available vs direct link.
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09-04-2013 05:50 AM  6 years ago
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What is TT thinking???
How do you think they can afford top pilots pilot that win competitions all over the world, one needs high prices ridiculous prices if one wants to see there heli on the podium, right?
Can I hold a couple of dollars Nick?
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09-04-2013 05:57 AM  6 years ago
Adam Landefeld

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The bell crank setup on both the e820 and e720 is used for pure efficiency, precision and constant linear linkage movement.

If you think of direct to swash set-ups, they use a single servo arm to move a swash linkage through its full range of linear motion to change the attitude/position of the swash plate. The problem comes in where that arm inherently moves the ball on the end of it in an arc. So, if you picture the arm sitting perfectly horizontal at zero pitch, then picture that arm moving up and down to change the collective pitch or cyclic pitch you will see that at +/- 22.5 degrees from horizontal the ball on the end of the horn is actually starting to move more side to side (or orthogonal)than it is the direct up and down motion the linkage needs. This means that the speed of the linkage and amount of travel is maximized near the zero mark and gets slower/less as you move to the ends. This effect is actually compounded by the fact that the swash angle is introducing the same condition itself the further towards its range of motion limits you get to, it starts pulling the linkage in towards the main shaft instead of purely moving up and down. The net effect of this is that you end up with something like reverse expo where the movement is faster around center than it is on the ends.

The Thunder Tiger bell crank system really helps to minimize this effect and you end up getting much more constant degrees of servo movement really meaning a matching amount of pitch movement, even at the extreme ends of the travel. If you have grabbed the sticks on one of these machines you can actually perceive that the linear precision is much more constant than other machines you may have flown.

Now, that all being said, today's FBL systems can electronically correct or enhance for most of the negative effects, and many machines fly remarkably precise with direct to swash controls and FBL correction. I am not diminishing any heli that uses a direct to swash setup, I am just pointing out one of the engineering windfalls of the bell crank system. Some of the other reasons I like it are: I never break a servo in a crash, the push pull links pop off instead. The setup is phenomenally easy with the clamping horns and alignment holes for the bell cranks (I never have a single degree of sub-trim, even with fixed length links).

To the OP's topic: yes a blade grip on the 820 is pricey, good thing you almost never, ever do anything to them even in terrible crashes. The grip arm plate (that is replaceable for about 20.00 a pair) just bends with the post on it (posts 10.00 a pair). The frame sides are roughly a hundred bucks, I have managed to never break one, although I have seen them done so, even in some spectacular crashes. The tail, yes the tail is going to cost, but not abnormally for this class of machine I don't think. I don't think anyone flying an 800 class machine will claim to have done it for the economical wisdom of it right ? LOL :-)

And yes, like Ben, Team Thunder Tiger...Proud to be so, by choice and by desire.

Peace gents,
-Adam
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09-04-2013 05:58 AM  6 years ago
Flys4Fun

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love the tt sponsored reps saying pricing is not that bad, lol. there was a time when raptors flew at a affordable price, now they are surpassing even boutique heli pricing, sheesh.
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09-04-2013 06:34 AM  6 years ago
Adam Landefeld

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Sorry sir, your statement doesn't quite hold up, and your automatic discredit of me is unfounded. I've been on the team for just a couple months... Been actively flying my G4s since they were released a few years ago, and was flying 90SEs before that and so on. I have paid for many, many hundreds of parts as a non-team member. In fact I have not even needed a part yet as a team member :-) I've also tried some other very popular current machines and sold them and stuck with my TTs.

If you want to really get a grip on where TT is going with pricing, go look up parts on the newest member of the line, the e700, go match it up with any other machine on the market. Go look up the price and contents of a crash kit for the e700. Wait... I'll give you a link:

e700 Crash Kit
INCLUDES: Main Shaft
Tail Boom
Spindle
Tail Linkage Rod
Tail Drive Shaft
Two Tail Drive Shaft Bearings
Tail Input Bevel Gear
Tail Output Bevel Gear
Two Tail Boom Supports
Two Landing Skid Braces and Pipes
Linkage Rod Set
Tail Rotor Shaft

$54.99

This represents current thinking at Thunder Tiger. Expect to see more offerings like this coming.

Sure 800s are pricey... never disputed that, its in the nature of that class of heli.

-Adam
Futaba Factory Team
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09-04-2013 06:53 AM  6 years ago
husafreak

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Thanks for the very good explanation of the merits of the bellcrank system, no doubt my Vbars are working hard to keep me in the dark about all that But we can see it is not laziness or stubbornness but a real pro engineering choice made at the design stage.
I love the new trend for really inexpensive large helis that we see with the new TT700 (and that mythical Protos 700) someone coined a term for it. "Beater 700's" When you think about it the E820kit is cheap for what you get, in a really bad crash you would probably be better off to just buy another kit.
Anywhoo, I see now that it is put together like the G4 and that heli is an amazing piece of work.
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