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05-07-2013 09:50 PM  6 years ago
helimatt

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Nope but I'm not wasting more time on it.Never, ever, ever, ever give up.
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05-07-2013 09:52 PM  6 years ago
Dusty1000

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Nope but I'm not wasting more time on it.
Well only you can choose to spend the time to educate yourself.

I can only present the facts to you... I can't make you accept them.

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05-07-2013 09:53 PM  6 years ago
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Interesting to hear the association to We " -- ?? Better question -----

Why at the middle and to the end of the European Campaign :

When France was totally engulfed through out their population with Nazi's : Paris France was not destroyed :

Where did they go ?? WHa Happened ??? at the end of WWII when the American's came to provide Liberty and Freedom ??

What happened to the Nazi's ??

or Poland

Or Russia

Or/ Or/ Or
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05-07-2013 11:44 PM  6 years ago
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dusty is blinded to one side of history and wishes to appease an enemy who is sworn to kill the infidel at all costs based on religious principles of Jihad promoted by sick, twisted and brutal minds.

If they behaved themselves, accepted their own neighbors right to exist, their own kind, and the so called infidel no one would have to step into their business. Islam has a sick side that wishes to destroy the innocent and harmless and is so chicken sh#t they must hide among their own innocent civilians, and is to cowardly to meet their supposed enemy on the battle front.

Of course, not all Muslims promote Jihad or Holy frickin war. But, there are enough of the sick ones to be a very serious problem. To ignore that threat, or to try and appease them only emboldens an enemy to build enough strength to make more 9/11's happen. They are set upon a path of destruction that no amount of negotiation will lead them away from.
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05-08-2013 12:39 AM  6 years ago
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Dennis, I consider you a wise man. There is no reasoning with Dusty. The only way he might wake up is if a Suicide Bomber crawled up his @ss and went to Allah!

I absolutely HATE VIOLENCE AND KILLING. But they do not, it keeps them alive and gives them a reason to please their Religious Leaders.

Dusty keep protecting the Jihadist's and stabbing your Allies in the back.
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05-08-2013 01:09 AM  6 years ago
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Dusty1000
The Palestinians' crime was, and is, that they are Muslims and Christians, and that they live on land that some Jews believe their God gave to Jews.
No, their crime is bombing, shooting, and firing missles at innocent Israelis because their religion is intolerant of Judaism, all the meanwhile spurred on by surrounding nations who share the same cause but are unwilling to provide these "Palestinians" refuge.

You do realize that you live in one of the most imperialistic nations in the world since the Roman Empire collapsed, don't you?

Can someone tell me when/where Palestine is?

Just the sheer reference of "Palestinians" is condemnation of the Jews.
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05-08-2013 01:40 AM  6 years ago
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Check this: We Will Conquer Europe & America; The West Will Convert to Islam

Watch at YouTube

Speed of light is greater than speed of sound. Some people seem very bright until U hear them speak
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05-09-2013 02:29 PM  6 years ago
Dusty1000

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dusty is blinded to one side of history
DEET DE DEET, history doesn't have ''sides.'' Stories have ''sides;'' history is based on facts. No amount of stories is a substitute for the facts.
and wishes to appease an enemy
Name one way in which I wish to appease anybody who has broken any law.

It is you and others here who advocate appeasing people who break laws. For example, advocating that Israel should be able to attack other countries, but that other countries should not be able to attack Israel.

Whereas I advocate that no country should have the right to attack any other country, regardless of their race or religion.

That your ''enemies'' are law abiding innocent people, and your ''friends'' are people who break the law, demonstrates the immorality of your argument.

Dusty
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05-09-2013 02:36 PM  6 years ago
Dusty1000

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Dennis, I consider you a wise man.
LOL Despite spending a lot of time on this political forum, being an American, and a self-proclaimed supporter of the Tea Party, the one who has earned the name DEET didn't even know that the Tea Party isn't something that politicians become members of. So when you call someone with such a fundamental lack of knowledge ''wise,'' what does that say about you?
There is no reasoning with Dusty.
I don't recall you ever having tried to counter anything I've posted, with anything remotely resembling a fact.

Is it that you find it impossible to reason with people who present facts, or does your idea of ''reasoning'' not involve facts?

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05-09-2013 02:54 PM  6 years ago
Dennis (RIP)

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It is you and others here who advocate appeasing people who break laws. For example, advocating that Israel should be able to attack other countries, but that other countries should not be able to attack Israel.
I advocate that Israel has the right to defend herself anytime she chooses.
Whereas I advocate that no country should have the right to attack any other country, regardless of their race or religion.
We know what you advocate dusty. You advocate that Israel has no right to defend herself even though you say she does. It comes out in your defense and excuses for radical islam.
Despite spending a lot of time on this political forum, being an American, and a self-proclaimed supporter of the Tea Party, the one who has earned the name DEET didn't even know that the Tea Party isn't something that politicians become members of. So when you call someone with such a fundamental lack of knowledge ''wise,'' what does that say about you?
You have no idea what you are talking about dusty. Not a single clue.

Stickin with and promoting the Tea Party is surely better than doing the same for our existing political parties. But, you are to blind and wear your liberal rose colored glasses to see that.
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05-09-2013 02:57 PM  6 years ago
Dusty1000

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No, their crime is bombing, shooting, and firing missles at innocent Israelis because their religion is intolerant of Judaism, all the meanwhile spurred on by surrounding nations who share the same cause but are unwilling to provide these "Palestinians" refuge.
Both Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties with Israel, Turkey is considered to be an ally, and Syria has held a truce with Israel for many years, despite the fact that Israel still occupies part of Syria. Lebanon's Christian President said Lebanon would be the last Arab country to recognise Israel, after Israel carpet bombed Beirut, killing thousands of Muslim and Christian civilians. Their crime was an Israeli army officer stepping on a landmine, in Lebanon.

If Islam is intolerant of Jews as you allege, then why was it Christians that slaughtered and expelled them all over Europe, and not Muslims in the middle east?

The timeline of events shows that the Arabs react to Israel's actions, not the other way around. For example, the first mass exodus of Jews from Arab countries came after the first mass expulsions of Muslims and Christians from Palestine in 1948. Most Jews who remained in Arab countries, were expelled after Israel's next mass expulsion of Muslims and Christians in 1967.

If you wouldn't blame the allies for killing innocent Germans in WW2 when Hitler occupied most of Europe, then why do you blame the Palestinians for doing the same when Israel is occupying most of Palestine? Just as Hitler's persecution of Jews in Germany did not start at the outset of WW2, Jewish persecution of Muslims and Christians in Palestine did not start in 1948. Jews had lived peacefully in Palestine for centuries, until Zionist Jews began immigrating with the intention of setting up a state.

Here's a time released British government archive which sheds some light on the situation in Palestine in 1943.
In July 1943 the Cabinet discussed the situation in Palestine. The Cabinet agreed that action was needed to damp down the existing agitation, which was being brought on by extremist statements. There was concern that the situation might lead to future military commitments.

The Notebooks highlight the different attitudes between the Jewish factions. They record that the Jews in Palestine were regarded as totalitarian, aggressive and expansionist and that ´They were trying to run a state w´in a state v. much on Nazi lines´. However, they make it clear that there was still moderate Jewish opinion both inside and outside Palestine and that this should be encouraged. The Cabinet agreed a draft declaration by the UK and US governments, which said that no decision on Palestine should be reached without full consultation between both Arabs and Jews.

P.M.

I´m committed to creation of a Jewish National Home in Palestine. Let us go on with that; and at end/war we shall have plenty of force with which to compel the Arabs to acquiesce in our designs. Don´t shirk our duties because of diffies…

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/...1/palestine.htm
As for the situation today, Israel as the foreign military occupying power in Palestine has a legal obligation to withdraw, while the Palestinians have a legal right to resist the foreign military occupation, including by armed means.
You do realize that you live in one of the most imperialistic nations in the world since the Roman Empire collapsed, don't you?
The UK is the most imperialistic nation there has ever been. The British empire was the biggest ever empire, and much bigger than the Roman empire.

But what does that have to do with this discussion?
Can someone tell me when/where Palestine is?
It's in the middle east.
Just the sheer reference of "Palestinians" is condemnation of the Jews.
All residents in Palestine prior to Israel being created, were Palestinians. When Israel was created and ''Israelis'' were invented, those Palestinians who did not become Israelis, remained Palestinians. I'm not sure what your problem is with that.

Dusty
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05-09-2013 03:01 PM  6 years ago
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history doesn't have ''sides.''
Which side would you be on when the Nazi Germany was trying to pound the UK into dust and rubble.
So history does have 'sides' if you consider the various outcomes.
Your just playing the 'semantics' game, not presnting anything useful when you do that.
I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?
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05-09-2013 03:08 PM  6 years ago
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fwiw..

All discussion for the palestinian cause became moot on Sept. 11 2001. There are no cogent arguments supportin islam.

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05-09-2013 04:00 PM  6 years ago
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05-09-2013 05:06 PM  6 years ago
Dusty1000

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Check this: We Will Conquer Europe & America; The West Will Convert to Islam
So, who's most likely to be correct regarding the long term goal of Islam? Some unknown Egyptian propagated by Memri TV, or the Muslim Brotherhood, the mujahideen, Al Qaeda, the Taliban, the Ayatollah in Iran, and various other well known Muslim leaders and organisations?

From most of the time from the advent of Islam, right up until the British and French divided the middle east into countries at the end of WW1, most of the middle east has been a CALIPHATE in one form or another - the concept of which seems to be at the core of Islam. That is a word we are going to be hearing more in the coming years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliphate

Re-establishing the caliphate in one form or another is the stated long-term goal of all of the Muslim organistions and leaders I mentioned above - even though their methods vary - i.e. are either peaceful or violent. Although I suspect a modern version of the caliphate might look more like a Muslim version of the EU, as I doubt the leaders of various countries would want to completely relinquish their power and status.

To prevent the caliphate from being re-established, is the job of the Muslim leaders the west supports, particularly the Saudi regime. This has been the cornerstone of western foreign policy in the middle east ever since the last form of the caliphate, the Ottoman empire, was broken up. The middle east was designed by the British and French, to keep it broken up. The last thing the west wants is a huge Muslim superpower in control of most of the world's resources.

Recent public opinion polls indicate that a majority of the public in Muslim countries also want the caliphate to be re-established, in one form or another. Bin Laden thought he could start it in Afghanistan.

With the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, even though they don't control the Egyptian military, the fact that Al Qaeda are now not just in Afghanistan but seem to be spread all over the middle east and North Africa, and the Arab Spring in particular, re-establishment of the caliphate is looking increasingly more likely in the long run.

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05-09-2013 05:15 PM  6 years ago
Dusty1000

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I advocate that Israel has the right to defend herself anytime she chooses.
No DEET, you advocate that Israel can attack any country any time it chooses, and that when attacked, those countries should not be able to retaliate in self-defence.

Which is just more blatant evidence of your double standards, and your ideology that one group of people should have more rights than another group of people, on the grounds of race or religion.
We know what you advocate dusty. You advocate that Israel has no right to defend herself even though you say she does. It comes out in your defense and excuses for radical islam.
Stating facts is not ''defending'' anything or making an ''excuse.''

Quote me as having ''defended'' radical Islam or having made an ''excuse'' for it, or be seen to be a liar.
You have no idea what you are talking about dusty. Not a single clue.
Stickin with and promoting the Tea Party is surely better than doing the same for our existing political parties. But, you are to blind and wear your liberal rose colored glasses to see that.
I know exactly what I'm taking about. I am talking about when you claimed that the Tea Party had a list of members.

I have never said there is anything wrong with promoting the Tea Party movement, and what's more, I promoted it's ''intellectual Godfather'' - although he is too conservative for you. We've been through this before, remember - when you tried to counter my point regarding capitalism having been started in the UK, by posting a link to a wiki page about Adam Smith, not realising that he was British? Which is just one more example of why you deserve to be called DEET.

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05-09-2013 05:18 PM  6 years ago
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Why should you complain ?? Dusty ?? You get to go home and renegotiate the contract.

AGAIN

Doubt if their is a pay raise in it from the Union Distribution
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05-09-2013 05:18 PM  6 years ago
Dusty1000

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Which side would you be on when the Nazi Germany was trying to pound the UK into dust and rubble.
So history does have 'sides' if you consider the various outcomes.
Of course wars have sides, and of course outcomes of wars vary. But when the allies won WW2 for example, that became a historical fact. Whichever ''side'' you might have supported during the war, does not change history.
Your just playing the 'semantics' game, not presnting anything useful when you do that.
On the contrary, it is you who is ''playing the semantics game.''

But if you do have anything useful to add to the discussion, feel free to post it.

Dusty
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05-09-2013 05:20 PM  6 years ago
Dusty1000

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All discussion for the palestinian cause became moot on Sept. 11 2001. There are no cogent arguments supportin islam.
Just as all discussion for the Catholic cause became moot when the IRA began their bombing campaign.

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05-09-2013 05:36 PM  6 years ago
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No DEET, you advocate that Israel can attack any country any time it chooses, and that when attacked, those countries should not be able to retaliate in self-defence.
You cannot show us anywhere where I said the opposition to Israel has no right to defend themselves against Israel.
Which is just more blatant evidence of your double standards, and your ideology that one group of people should have more rights than another group of people, on the grounds of race or religion.
Dusty, you are so screwed up on this issue its beyond reason. The reason Israel is a target is because of religion.
I know exactly what I'm taking about. I am talking about when you claimed that the Tea Party had a list of members.
Geez

Do a search dusty. Even your favorite Wikipedia displays a list of Tea Party politicians.

The Tea Party is not a political party. How many times does that have to be explained to you? Its a movement. A movement towards a smaller government, less taxation and regulation. Its a movement against the status quo of both political parties and the one I support.

And you claim to know what you are talking about ?????

Thats frickin hilarious.

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