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04-28-2013 12:55 AM  5 years agoPost 1
waheed1998

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Ready Heli have a suggested kit combo for logo 600sx. I want to know why they suggest the Kontronik heli jive,but the kit that they sell come with the jive 80hv.Will the 120 heli jive do anything different to the heli as far as speed because I'm looking for slow graceful sport flying.Is it better to get the jive heli 120 hv or the 80 hv.and please explain to why because i don't know the nothing about a ESC, and the amps.If some one feel like being a teacher can you'll school me.

anthony jackson

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04-28-2013 01:28 AM  5 years agoPost 2
Ronald Thomas

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The 80HV will do fine, no issues.

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04-28-2013 04:16 AM  5 years agoPost 3
MarkH

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I've been using the 80HV on both the 500 & 600 for several years with no issues at all.

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04-28-2013 04:33 AM  5 years agoPost 4
oysifly

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Bentonville, AR

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I'm flying my 600 with a Jive 80 HV on 10s w/ a scorpion 4035-560 and no issues whatsoever. And also using the internal BEC which seems to be bullet proof.

Quick...here comes my wife....hide that new Heli !!!!

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05-01-2013 03:06 AM  5 years agoPost 5
Manny1776

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jive 80 HV is more them what you need...

Fly High, Fly Fun, Fly Secure.........Fly 3D!!!! Bavarian Demon USA Team

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05-01-2013 03:37 AM  5 years agoPost 6
eddiscus

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Dumont, NJ-USA

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The jive 120 version 13 also supports manual throttle control for use with the vbar gov. and autorotation bailout.

Logo Xxtreme 800
Logo 700
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05-01-2013 08:00 AM  5 years agoPost 7
KC

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I've been watching your questions

The 80HV is great

The v9 and earlier Jives are set up for about a 5 second delay in auto bailout. Its not a bad thing because motors like the 4035 could rip the teeth off the gear if there wasn't any delay.

You'll come to appreciate the "limitations" of the Jive a thousand flights from now, it just works.

My way of setting it up with the Logo 600 (method works with other 600s too)

1) set up mode 1 then mode 4
2) use 70% to 75% flat curve
3) use the right pinion...done

This is how I select pinions with the Jive

87% kV x voltage / 2100 rpm = gear ratio I want.

87% of full throttle is just what Jives do around 70% to 75% flat curve. 2100rpm is easy to go up to 2300 by selecting over 80% flat curve or down to precise hovering ranges (below 50%) without stressing the ESC.

For example, you're considering 10s with a 560kV, the desired gear ratio is,

0.87 x 560kV x 37V / 2100rpm = 8.58:1

that would be around 12t with mod 1.0, or 18t with mod 0.7

another example

0.87 x 500kV x 44.4V / 2100rpm = 9.2:1

that's about 11t or 12t with mod 1.0 gearing

This will work fine with the 4025 or 4035 size motors which are the sizes intended for the 600 (Xera 4030 and most inrunners included)...anything smaller than a 4025 will top out at 2100rpm, you could go with a 4020, but then you need to go to 2000rpm or maybe lower to find the right gear ratio...87% and 2100rpm are the sweet spot for the 600s for pretty much all 600 size motors

fwiw, the best setup for this helicopter for someone that wants to do what you are talking about is to go with a large 10s battery and a low 500kV motor (500kV to 530kV)

You'll get the flight time with the large 10s battery and the weight will make it silky smooth. Then go to a light 12s and you can fly all crazy.

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05-01-2013 01:38 PM  5 years agoPost 8
waheed1998

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thanks kc your a scientist i hope one date i could be as knowledgeable of heli like you are and this is what I'm inspiring for.The reality is i just started fling and addicted all ready i fly a little t-rex 450 3gx and i want a bigger heli for stability and to see,to grow with so i like mikado wouldn't even buy anything else,and every one say a bigger heli is more stable.So i'm buy a logo 600sx to grow with.So i didn't want to spend over 2000 and get something that not good for me.Yes i going for the 10c setup so im get the 560kv motor with 12 tooth pinion just didn't want to buy the wrong ESC. So the jive 80 is enough.

anthony jackson

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05-01-2013 06:55 PM  5 years agoPost 9
KC

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thanks Waheed, basic math and physics saves a lot of time and money in this hobby.

fwiw, when I was 15 I worked in a warehouse all summer to get a big helicopter...almost every $ I made went into buying it...

It was worth it

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