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05-10-2013 01:17 PM  6 years ago
Four Stroker

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S.Bus cable without Voltage line: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...p?&I=LXDAVM&P=7

A ONE WIRE BUS has one signal wire AND a ground wire. A std. Y-conn. will work if you remove the red wire. It is best to leave the black wire to prevent the signal wire from picking up noise. I am sure it would work without it since the ground comes around from the other direction. The other sensor plugs into the same hole on the CGY750 so I assume it will work the same BUT I am sure Ben will ask again if you desire.

trondch; I assume you had a different setup ?
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05-10-2013 03:33 PM  6 years ago
Dr.Ben

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Ironically, the orginal email from Tanaka-san outlined the backplate sensor use, but the description was not completely clear to me as to whether it could be done as configured above or was not possible at all due to voltage issues.

I just sent the email to get this clarified. As for the question about the wire, I would preserve the wiring arrangment in the S.Bus block that Richard referenced which lacks the voltage line if you choose to use another Y assembly and remove the voltage line from it.

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05-10-2013 03:51 PM  6 years ago
Four Stroker

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Ben;

A related issue. What is CA-RVIN-700 referenced in the R7003 instructions ? Tower does not carry it (yet). I am confused about the EXT-VOL port 2 option. Is this live voltage like the 2 pin port of the R7008 ? Otherwise why not use the SBS-01V S.Bus2 thing (in the S.Bus2 port) ?

Another question. The R7008/7003 instructions have an admonition against plugging S.Bus stuff into S.Bus2 ports and vice versa. This diagram violates that rule ?
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05-10-2013 06:42 PM  6 years ago
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Hmm I dont know i would want to go tru this mess. Is there any reason why you can't use both sensor at the same time. On 700N you can mount on both side. One to the cgy750 other to the sbus2.
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05-10-2013 06:54 PM  6 years ago
DougV

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They do carry the CA-RVIN-700 http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...?&I=LXCFVY&P=ML I have 3 of them, 2 with the 7008SB and 1 with the 7003SB.

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05-10-2013 07:02 PM  6 years ago
Dr.Ben

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Two sensors, one for the 750 and one for the telemetry with each plugged to its appropriate slot should be fine. In my mind this is by far the least complicated way of doing things. Yes, I know that some models do allow two hall sensors to install as easily, but some models set up easily that way.

I am doing the best I can with your questions guys. It has to be written is simplified English so Japan can understand, and then I have to work around the English-as-a-second-language replies so I can tell you what to do.

Ben Minor
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05-10-2013 07:15 PM  6 years ago
Four Stroker

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Scratch my first question about the R7003. The EXT-VOL cable (adapter) comes with the RX. The picture was confusing. The CA-RVIN-700 plugs into it and is the same as for the R7008.
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05-11-2013 06:07 AM  6 years ago
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Do you know if it is possible to buy the SBS-01RM without the sensor ?
Thanks
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05-11-2013 01:28 PM  6 years ago
Four Stroker

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If you buy the CGY 750, the SBS-01RM, and the BPS-1 RPM, you have two Hall Effect sensors that you don't need. Spares for other people's crashes.
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05-13-2013 06:35 PM  6 years ago
Dr.Ben

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Hi guys. More details:

>>Do you need to remove only the red wire or also te black one ?

Answer: Remove the red wire only.
Black wire is common line for all signal.

>>Does the backplate sensor work with this wiring arrangement?

Answer: Backplate sensor CAN be used with this same wiring arrangment.

Ben Minor
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05-13-2013 08:06 PM  6 years ago
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Thanks Ben;

I know you are tired of us pestering you. My only other question is about plugging the S.Bus 750 into the S.Bus2 port which is prohibited in the manual.
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05-14-2013 02:47 AM  6 years ago
Dr.Ben

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Richard,

The use of the 750 with the S.Bus2 port is acceptable. I found this out right after I got my 18MZ and had not fully figured out how the various receiver config's functioned. Basically, there are some Futaba devices that can do this, and some that can not based on when they were designed. Rather than enter the sticky wicket of having customers keep straight which ones work and which ones do not, the blanket statement was made at the time not to do it with any non-S.Bus2 implemented device. This instance is a special situation, so Tanaka-san's instructions should be followed for this specific case.

Ben Minor
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05-27-2013 09:28 AM  6 years ago
Steve Evans

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Dr Ben,
To my knowledge, there is more to SBus2 than firmware, so the current 750's will not be updateable for that facility. Future gyros will undoubtably be S.Bus2 capable. Before some of you drive a stake into Futaba for not having S.Bus2 capability in the 750 and 701, please remember that those products were designed and implemented well before S.Bus2 was developed and put in production.
We know that the S.Bus interface on the cgy750 is bi-directional as its possible to save/restore settings to a PC. What further hardware differences are there? Whilst I've fathomed out the S.Bus interface/protocol, I've no knowledge of how S.Bus 2 compares. Are you able to share any details there?

Thanks,

Steve
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05-28-2013 04:52 PM  6 years ago
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09-01-2013 10:30 PM  6 years ago
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BPS-1 and RPM telemetry
Guys
Just to say, following Ben's instructions, I got this setup to work with the futaba backplate sensor.
Bit of extra wiring, but it's better than two sensors.
I far as I can tell, you still need the telemetry part from the SBS-01RM.
Thanks to Ben for working with Futaba on this.
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09-03-2013 03:07 AM  6 years ago
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So do I understand this right? My nx4 can have gov sensor on both sides of frame, so can I install another separate sensor and just plug into sbus 2 for rpm reading?T.O.R.C.H.S. Orlando Member And T.R.A.C.S. Tampa Member
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09-04-2013 01:42 AM  6 years ago
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Yes that works, I did it on my 700N DFC and its flawless. I have a voltage, RPM sensor and Temp sensor. I need a sbus hub so i can plug everything thing in. In your case you just need the sbus2 rpm sensor.
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09-07-2013 11:49 AM  6 years ago
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Excellent. Thanks for the info. I'm going to do this on my 700n and the NX4.T.O.R.C.H.S. Orlando Member And T.R.A.C.S. Tampa Member
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05-13-2015 04:24 AM  4 years ago
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So, just checking, a GY701 is ok to connect to S.BUS2?
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05-13-2015 04:33 AM  4 years ago
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i don't believe soRaptor G4N, Raptor E720, Raptor E700, Raptor 90SE, X50F, X50E, 14sg
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