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04-23-2013 12:05 AM  5 years agoPost 21
sjgusmc21

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1) for the most part you don't see pot smokers in the middle of the road passed out at the wheel,
2) pot smokers on average don't drive as fast as someone that has been drinking,
3) pot smokes have more control over their bodies than a drunk person would, meaning pot smokers don't fall down as much,
4) pot smokes are more likely to stop when the blues come on,
5) pot smoker are less likely to get angry and start fights,
6) pot smokes don't need to be carried to the grass after they fall out of their car's door,
7) and pot smokes are much less likely to puke on you when you put the cuffs on them,
8) he was happy to arrest ether

That's funny and I couldn't agree more. But doesn't make it right.

PychoZ, I would never block you. On one or two of your postings, I actually agreed with you. We are what we are, you are a liberal and I am a conservative. I know what I am.

We all have to stand for something. Alcohol can be a deadly and dangerous thing. I know this first hand. I also know that continued use of MJ (illegal drugs in general) can also be harmful, addictive, and deadly as well. Just because alcohol is legal, doesn't make it right, you will receive no arguments from me on that point.

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04-23-2013 12:30 AM  5 years agoPost 22
Flys4Fun

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Is it not right to sell aerosol paint either? You can get just as high and inebriated and eventually turn yourself into a permanent vegetable so it's even more dangerous than alcohol or marijuana. My point is anyone can abuse ANYTHING. Will be a good day when society realizes its not the item that's dangerous, but the user....

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04-23-2013 12:40 AM  5 years agoPost 23
sjgusmc21

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I can say the same thing about buying canned air at Target. Every time I do, they card me. I will 50 in June. Like I am going to go out in my car and get high with it, if that is what they do. Doesn't matter. You are correct, we can't hold every bodies hand....nor should we. But that doesn't mean we have to dangle the carrot either.

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04-23-2013 01:07 AM  5 years agoPost 24
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when I was pumping gas I worked with a guy that was hooked on sniffing gasoline, needles to say he only worked a few days and he was fired

on the back side of the pumps there was a grass hill (downhill), he would lay on the grass behind the knee high bushes and sniff the gas out of a cup, when he stood up he looked high as kite

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04-23-2013 01:55 AM  5 years agoPost 25
fenderstrat

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Ever since Nixon started the Schedule system of drug classification and basically the war on drugs it has been a complete and total failure/loss.People can still buy anything they want 24/7.Keep the hard stuff illegal.but as for marijuana(no I dont smoke personally)lets try another way,since outlawing has 100% NOT worked, make it legal and put the money to good use.use it for education,medical, whatever,but its time to try a new direction.

Add to this the people who are in jail for small/medium ammounts of weed and the money we would save for them not being in jail and its just a no brainer.

Have a National powerball and legalize weed and we can eliminate the national debt

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04-23-2013 01:18 PM  5 years agoPost 26
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Bottom line..the purpose of laws was to protect us from other people.

When laws try to protect us from ourselves they tend to fail miserably.

Morality cannot be legislated.

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04-23-2013 01:39 PM  5 years agoPost 27
sjgusmc21

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Morality cannot be legislated.

And it is EVEN HARDER to teach!

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04-23-2013 03:31 PM  5 years agoPost 28
maxxteezy

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I bet not one liberal can explain the need to keep MJ illegal except for "Its the law"..panzi stance commenced. They checked the box right next to gun control.

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04-23-2013 03:35 PM  5 years agoPost 29
GREYEAGLE

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Well -----

You can become President of the United States

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04-23-2013 04:29 PM  5 years agoPost 30
Rotormaster

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Wait until the death tolls start to rise, then we will think twice.
I also know that continued use of MJ (illegal drugs in general) can also be harmful, addictive, and deadly as well.
I do not believe there has ever been a single reported case of death from marijuana overdose.

Where did you get this idea that marijuana causes people to die?
.but as for marijuana(no I dont smoke personally)lets try another way,since outlawing has 100% NOT worked, make it legal and put the money to good use.use it for education,medical, whatever,but its time to try a new direction.
Add to this the people who are in jail for small/medium ammounts of weed and the money we would save for them not being in jail and its just a no brainer.
This coincides precisely with the logic inside the Portuguese parliament in 2000.

I'm not entirely sure that people posting know of what was effectuated therein.

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04-23-2013 04:38 PM  5 years agoPost 31
Rotormaster

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Bottom line..the purpose of laws was to protect us from other people.
When laws try to protect us from ourselves they tend to fail miserably.
Morality cannot be legislated.
Wisest words I have read in this thread.

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04-23-2013 05:03 PM  5 years agoPost 32
Flys4Fun

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Lol, what doesn't cause us to die. I knew of a guy who was very physically fit, but had a heart attack at 30 years old.

It has also been proven that marijuana doesn't cause any more damage to lungs then over the counter cigarettes sold today. In fact cigarettes can be worse! Also marijuana can be eaten to obtain its effects but tobacco can not. There is also very many uses of hemp as products. IMO, marijuana is very useful and fell victim to tight wads labeling it all over 'bad' and banning it for simply no solid reason or fact a long time ago. Oh btw, I don't smoke, I just use my head and think for myself and research, not just think what is told to me.

The other benefit to making marijuana legal is that it would be safer for those already using. Since marijuana is illegal there is no regulation on how it is grown and therefore many safety concerns far greater than that of marijuana (pesticides, other drug fillers, fungi ect) exist. I venture it would be cheaper to regulate the 'food' than it takes to keep it illegal.

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04-23-2013 05:28 PM  5 years agoPost 33
Rotormaster

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But you can grow rice, corn, barley, hops and build huge factories that process the stuff into the poison (yes alcohol is truly a poison) and sell it to the general public. That's legal.
Incorrect.

I believe it is illegal in the U.S to grow, sell, or even share home-grown food or it's by-products, as per Senate Bill S510.

Sorry.

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04-23-2013 06:05 PM  5 years agoPost 34
Rotormaster

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Oops...

I must have missed the part where you said "huge factories"... I though you were talking about home-grown/home-made.

I was going to say... it wouldn't really be in the spirit of capitalism if alcohol weren't corporatized (pun intended). What... and allow the average Joe to steal profits from the big corps? How will the politicians get their share??

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04-23-2013 07:04 PM  5 years agoPost 35
hootowl

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Who wants to live forever?

Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep

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04-23-2013 07:10 PM  5 years agoPost 36
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I do not believe there has ever been a single reported case of death from marijuana overdose
Where did you get this idea that marijuana causes people to die?
ho, there was the train crash a few years ago where the engineer was stoned out of his mind

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04-23-2013 07:26 PM  5 years agoPost 37
sjgusmc21

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People that smoke or want to smoke MJ, will continue to support it's legalization, no matter the facts or fiction. Those of you that say it has never cost lifes, who do you think you are kidding? Go on, smoke it till you brains melt, just keep it the hell away from my family. Same with crack, heroin, cocaine, smack, acid, and whatever drug of choice you prefer, destroy your life, but don't try to make THE REST OF US accept it.

Wow, this kind of sounds like another debate going on right now being forced down the throat of all Americans by a select party.

All things come full circle. They always do.

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04-23-2013 09:13 PM  5 years agoPost 38
PsychoZ

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Wow, this kind of sounds like another debate going on right now being forced down the throat of all Americans by a select party.
Well maybe if a bunch of conservatives didn't make it illegal for bogus reasons so they could keep their paper business riches then we would not be having this discussion.

And as for marijuana being addictive, you are 100% wrong there. It is only mentally addictive like gambling, it is not addictive like coffee. There is no chemicals that cause the body to go through any type of withdraws and cause the body to crave it. Get your facts straight before you post opinions.

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04-23-2013 09:14 PM  5 years agoPost 39
PsychoZ

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People that smoke or want to smoke MJ, will continue to support it's legalization, no matter the facts or fiction.
and people like you will never listen to facts because you are too closed minded, just like a liberal.

Tea Parties are for little girls with imaginary friends

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04-23-2013 09:14 PM  5 years agoPost 40
hootowl

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Go on, smoke it till you brains melt, just keep it the hell away from my family. Same with crack, heroin, cocaine, smack, acid, and whatever drug of choice you prefer, destroy your life, but don't try to make THE REST OF US accept it.
I would never categorize MJ with hard drugs. There is no comparison. Smoking weed responsibly is many times safer than drinking alcohol. It's really not physically addictive like alcohol.

To anyone that believes we should abstain from alcohol and any other mind altering drug.... I agree. hiccup

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