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04-24-2013 01:59 PM  5 years agoPost 41
Dusty1000

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They are wars aginst attacks on other country's .
Come on Thomas, get real! What's that even supposed to mean? How can you start a war against an attack on another country? No wonder you ferhoodle yourself.

The wars we start in the middle east are wars of aggression by ''Christian countries,'' against ''Muslim countries.''

Muslims then attack and kill people in ''Christian countries,'' because we have attacked and killed people in ''Muslim countries.''

Bin Laden said himself:
Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple:

Because you attacked us and continue to attack us.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver
The concept of defending your allies by attacking the countries which attack them, isn't hard to understand.

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04-24-2013 02:07 PM  5 years agoPost 42
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Simple : Elementry
Boarders and SOVEREIGNTY & For Others to Hold on to It

Not our Problem

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04-24-2013 02:08 PM  5 years agoPost 43
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The wars we start in the middle east are wars of aggression by ''Christian countries,'' against ''Muslim countries.''
"The War" is against Radical Islamic/Muslim Terrorists.

"Muslim Countries" do not see it that way.

Tough sh#t.

Duh

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04-24-2013 02:09 PM  5 years agoPost 44
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Yea I know dusty it's always our fault.

You cannot legalize morality. It's internal not external. You either have it or you don't.

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04-24-2013 02:16 PM  5 years agoPost 45
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Are you not doing the same to Catholics as you claim we are doing to muslims?
Here is what I said
You think we should lock up all priest's and burn down every church torch every bible because a few priest's molested kids? Or just punish those who do the crime?
So no I'm not doing anything to the Catholics it was a comparison used to show the poor logic in punishing every Muslim. Don't forget Thomas I don't like their religion anymore then yours.

See you trying to twist my words there?

This one was funny
What say you about the thousands of non priest child molesters? They get off because they don't belong to a religion?
That's like saying lets release every non Muslim bomber Thomas I thought you were quite smart... at one point in time.
Are you kidding me hang em all I've got no problem with that I'm sure a pro-life person as yourself does unless they are Muslim right?

If you believe all Muslims are terrorists why are you going to do nothing? if you kill some that would be proactive self defence wouldn't it? hey you don't even need proof that's the Christian way.

This again who's ignorant and been drinking the koolaid now?
You are just as ignorant to the facts as hoggy is as to what Christianity is. You stand with those who don't believe this is a Christian nation so your stalking outof both side of your azz again.
And then I quote myself again once again showing you proof vs what you have none.
I was making a point to this and while I am not of your country I did do a little research on the subject as this was not the first time it came up. I don't think the US constitution mentions GOD anywhere. The bits I was quoting to the best of my little knowledge show that the founders made it so that the government and religion would be very separate things. The words in "GOD WE TRUST" were not printed on coins until 1863 paper money didn't have it until 1957 the words "Under God" were not in the original pledge of allegiance they were added in 1954. And to top that off many of your founding fathers were Deists or ambivalent about the Christian god. Some names for you Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, James Madison, John Adams, Thomas Paine, Gorge Washington.
I will admit there is conflicting information on some of those names but still it was not hard to collect this information.
Look Thomas I know your parents told you the truth about Santa and the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny I'm sorry you forgot to tell you the truth about religion.

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04-24-2013 02:24 PM  5 years agoPost 46
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"The War" is against Radical Islamic/Muslim Terrorists.
"Muslim Countries" do not see it that way.
Tough sh#t.
Duh
Only the one who has earned the name DEET would think the war against Iraq, for example, was a war against ''Radical Islamic/Muslim terrorists.''

You should not expect others to see things as you do.

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04-24-2013 02:25 PM  5 years agoPost 47
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You should not expect others to see things as you do.
Actually, I don't.

Neither should you.

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04-24-2013 02:26 PM  5 years agoPost 48
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Truth is mate even you don't believe in your religion. If you believed in it you wouldn't be so worried about being killed you wouldn't keep a gun in your house to protect you and your family. You wouldn't be worried about a bomb under your car or a evil Muslim woman in a burqa coming to cut off your head and eat your soul.

If you really did believe in your religion you would welcome death you would believe you would be on your way to heaven. You would be grateful to come home and find your family dead because they all went to heaven.

YOU DON'T BELIEVE YOU JUST HOPE YOUR RIGHT

Think about that.

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04-24-2013 02:26 PM  5 years agoPost 49
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Yea I know dusty it's always our fault.
Thomas, everything that everybody does, is their own fault.

Does your kingdom of self prevent you from accepting responsibility for your own actions?

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04-24-2013 02:28 PM  5 years agoPost 50
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Actually, I don't.
Neither should you.
But I don't expect others to see things as you do. Like I already said:

Only the one who has earned the name DEET would think the war against Iraq, for example, was a war against ''Radical Islamic/Muslim terrorists.''

Clear enough now?

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04-24-2013 02:54 PM  5 years agoPost 51
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But I don't expect others to see things as you do.
No sh#t?

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04-24-2013 02:59 PM  5 years agoPost 52
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If you really did believe in your religion you would welcome death you would believe you would be on your way to heaven. You would be grateful to come home and find your family dead because they all went to heaven.
Your ignorance of Christianity is showing again.
Truth is mate even you don't believe in your religion. If you believed in it you wouldn't be so worried about being killed you wouldn't keep a gun in your house to protect you and your family. You wouldn't be worried about a bomb under your car or a evil Muslim woman in a burqa coming to cut off your head and eat your soul.
Ther you go again, it is you who infurrs that I hate all muslims . I have never stated that fact anywhere. To be ignorant that there are those out there that have and will continue to do harm to others is just down right stupid. to not keep your guard in place to protect yourself and your family is ignorantly stupid ( look it up again as it seem it has not sunk in yet). I have never called for any action against a single innocent person that has to this point done anything to me or others. Did you get that statement??.

I can't help the fact that all of the terrorist incidents have been committed by muslims and backed up by religious leader as well. Never has a so called christian terrorist been backed up the Chritian church!this is because they are Christians like dusty is ,only due to association.

As far as wanting death ,I was put on this earth by a higher source then you may ever comprehend. I was put here for a purpose and untill such time as my purpose is complete I will be here. It will be a glorious point in my existence when I get there but it is not my place to skip my job here. You only understnd the now and here, there is a forever and you won't like your version of it. Tat is your CHOICE due to your free will, don't complain later as it will be to late. Good day

You cannot legalize morality. It's internal not external. You either have it or you don't.

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04-24-2013 03:17 PM  5 years agoPost 53
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What a hoot !
Almost 1/2 of a Halleluiah

Nothing better than to pull up a seat and watch some spiders try to build a web on a clock that the hands just keep's moving

The hand is busy as heck writing on the wall

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04-24-2013 03:35 PM  5 years agoPost 54
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Agree greyThe time is running out for Santa and the tooth fairies and imaginary friends

Team- unbiased opinion.K.I.S.S principle upheld here

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04-24-2013 06:05 PM  5 years agoPost 55
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I say it again P H U K C the muslmn! What do
They have to offer apart from terroism?

Dusty100 please shut up please duh... your
Killing us here bra, every time a christian
Army go into these muslmn country the mission is to
Save them skin from their own kin these fanatic is
Only good for one thing and that is to exercise their faith troughs the sword.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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04-24-2013 07:00 PM  5 years agoPost 56
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I can't help the fact that all of the terrorist incidents have been committed by muslims and backed up by religious leader as well. Never has a so called christian terrorist been backed up the Chritian church!
What a load of nonsense. The Queen is head of the Church of England and is also the Commander in Chief of the British Armed Forces. So there's one notable Christian leader who not only supports killing innocent people, but who gives the order to one of the most powerful armies in the world to do so.

Here's a list of Muslim religious leaders who condemned the 9/11 attacks:
Mustafa Mashhur, General Guide, Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt; Qazi Hussain Ahmed, Ameer, Jamaat-e-Islami Pakistan, Pakistan; Muti Rahman Nizami, Ameer, Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh, Bangladesh; Shaykh Ahmad Yassin, Founder, Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas), Palestine; Rashid Ghannoushi, President, Nahda Renaissance Movement, Tunisia; Fazil Nour, President, PAS – Parti Islam SeMalaysia, Malaysia; and 40 other Muslim scholars and politicians

http://kurzman.unc.edu/islamic-stat...inst-terrorism/
Now, you try to find even one notable Muslim religious leader who ''backed'' the 9/11 attacks.

The British empire is possibly the most notable example of a Christian church leader spreading their ideology by the sword.
this is because they are Christians like dusty is ,only due to association.
You can't seem to help yourself judging others.

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04-24-2013 07:03 PM  5 years agoPost 57
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every time a christian
Army go into these muslmn country the mission is to
Save them skin from their own kin these fanatic is
Just like the British, and the Spanish before them, said colonising Jamaica and enslaving the natives was beneficial for them.

Dusty

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04-24-2013 07:13 PM  5 years agoPost 58
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Ok dusty now you Muslim is showing Good day
The Queen is head of the Church of England and is also the Commander in Chief of the British Armed Forces. So there's one notable Christian leader who not only supports killing innocent people, but who gives the order to one of the most powerful armies in the world to do so.
Ok dusty when was the last time the queen made a declaration of war on anybody? Secondly I guess you believe the everything your goverment has done is a terrorist act? Wow!

You go girl!

You cannot legalize morality. It's internal not external. You either have it or you don't.

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04-24-2013 07:47 PM  5 years agoPost 59
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Ok dusty now you Muslim is showing
LOL, so you think that anyone who condemns terrorism, promotes taking responsibility for one's own actions, and doing to others as they would have others do to them, must be a Muslim.

You should realise that some Christians do the same.
Ok dusty when was the last time the queen made a declaration of war on anybody?
Well most recently we helped the French to invade Mali. Before that there was Libya, Iraq, and Afghanistan, to mention just the notable examples in recent years. But I guess you might support the killing of innocent people on these occasions, as long as we didn't officially ''declare war.''
Secondly I guess you believe the everything your goverment has done is a terrorist act? Wow!
Whether by invading other countries, or crashing planes into buildings, killing innocent people is killing innocent people. The result is the same, to the people who are killed. But again, I suppose you would support this, just as long as your leaders, who are also of course responsible for the killing of innocent people, don't call it ''terrorism.''

I suppose as long as a car thief didn't define his stealing of cars as ''theft,'' you would also think that was acceptable.

The US Department of Defense defines terrorism as ''the unlawful use of violence or threat of violence to instill fear and coerce governments or societies.''

So when the US and British governments told the Taliban that we would keep on bombing Afghanistan unless they handed Bin Laden over, that was a textbook case of terrorism, as defined by the US Department of Defense.

But let me guess, you supported that act of terrorism as well?

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04-24-2013 10:40 PM  5 years agoPost 60
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Well just don't :
Let them on too your property, or give them a title deed to it, if they destroy it. It does not belong too them

Has the USA every concurred or kept any ? Most is worthless

NOPE :

Yet we establish multitude's of liberated free citizens and not enslave societies = Socialism but that is where they came from or some form of dictatorship

So what is that We Have that every one wants ???

Why do they beg for us to come and liberate ??

Maybe FREEDOM - The others do not have it

The only way freedom and liberty can be defined is when it is taken away. Time to send them home to whence they came.

Then see if create what was taken away - FREEDOM because they left

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