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04-05-2013 04:03 PM  6 years ago
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fla heli boy

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THEIR way around the 2nd ammendment
I got this today from a friend. I haven't verified the veracity of the message content, but think about this: when was the last time you were able to walk into ANY gun store and buy whatever brand, quantity and caliber of ammunition you wanted??
When the defense of liberty becomes a crime, tyranny is
already in force.

At that point, failure to defend liberty makes slavery a
certainty.

From a fellow shooter:

You may not know this but George Soros owns most of the ammunition manufacturing companies and many arms manufacturers as well.
He's selling ONLY to the government right now, per White House & Department of Homeland Security orders. My son works for ATK, who owns just about all the rest of the ammunition companies that Soros doesn't own. He tells me that ATK has been ordered by the federal government to curtail sales of ammunition, primers and powder to the retail market. What you see currently on the shelves is old stock and what's left in the warehouses since the CT shootings and new stock will NOT be appearing anytime soon. ATK and Soros' companies have more than enough government contracts to keep them going for years to come. Like Soros' companies, ATK is a huge defense contractor and they've been told to sell ONLY to the DOD, TSA, FBI, DHS and local/federal law enforcement agencies. This is VERY scary and VERY
ominous for what's coming down the pike in the future. >

My son has seen the proposed pricing schedule for Federal, CCI, Hornady,> Remington, Winchester and several other ammunition manufacturer's lines of ammunition, components, reloading equipment (ATK owns Outers, RCBS, Hoppe and a host of others) and he's flabbergasted! As an example, when the sales of .22 LR bulk ammo resumes, the pricing will be over $50.00 for a 535-round Value Pak! That's nearly a dime-a-shot!! They're also going to raise the prices by 300 - 400% on dies, presses, powder measures and the like. He's in management there at ATK in Salt Lake City and they're NOT happy with it at all! They firmly believe this will basically shut-down the civilian market while leaving the government as the only purchaser of their products. He saw the government pricing for the center fire ammunition they've been stockpiling and their prices have actually dropped from a year ago so the feds are buying this stuff REAL cheap while we can't even get our hands on it, at all!

Something I've always said since in 2008 is that, even if they can't actually ban the weapons themselves, the government will make it nearly impossible for us civilians to feed them with ammo, reloading components and the like. The WH doesn't HAVE to actually ban the guns, as
Biden said in one of his many faux pas, foot-in-the-mouth, Freudian slip speeches he's famous for making. " All we have to do is to make it too expensive to use them and the public will eventually give them back to us if we offer an attractive price for these weapons". What's an attractive price" - a $10.00 Wal-Mart gift card for a $3,000.00 custom hunting rifle? Those were his EXACT words in one of the speeches he gave to the freshman congressmen last week! Remember, Biden was one of the architects of the Clinton gun ban of years ago. I think he's as dangerous to the Second Amendment as Obama is, maybe more so, because he's so stupid and doesn't know the muzzle of a gun from the butt.>

Feel free to pass this on so gun owners will be aware of what we're up against. I doubt the NRA can do anything about it, IMHO. La Pierre can get on all the talk shows he's invited to and cry the blues about the assault weapons laws that are forthcoming from the WH but the real
crux of the matter will be whether or not we'll ever be able to purchase ammunition (at all) or, if we can, what we'll be paying for it. As an aside, here, I deal a LOT with Midsouth Shooters Supply for my reloading components. Two weeks ago I ordered 500 cases each of .45 Casull, .44 Magnum, .357 Magnum and 9mm Parabellum. I was told everything I had ordered was out-of-stock and no in-stock delivery date was being forecast. They wouldn't even accept a backorder for this stuff! Think the government isn't manipulating it? Think again, my friend...
I forecast this 4 years ago. I wish I would've acted on my foresight.....
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04-05-2013 04:14 PM  6 years ago
rcmiket

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http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/freedom.asp

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/10/george-soros-gun-grab/

I'm not happy about the ammo shortage either but I still believe this is a supply and demand issue.

Mike
"When Inverted down is up and up is expensive"
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04-05-2013 04:22 PM  6 years ago
fla heli boy

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edit....
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04-05-2013 04:38 PM  6 years ago
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This has been going around for a long time and is fake. This shows you just how far some will go to make the other side look bad.Tea Parties are for little girls with imaginary friends
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04-05-2013 04:44 PM  6 years ago
shawmcky

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Quayle and Snow were Repubs according to SnopesTeam- unbiased opinion.K.I.S.S principle upheld here
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04-05-2013 04:57 PM  6 years ago
Dennis (RIP)

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This has been going around for a long time and is fake. This shows you just how far some will go to make the other side look bad.
You mean like this:

https://www.google.com/search?q=bus...w=1097&bih=1043

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04-05-2013 05:04 PM  6 years ago
fla heli boy

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so you don't see an agenda Z??? C'mon man....
How do you like the new law passed in Conn??? NY??? Chicago's gun violence history??? We all know a lot of the Rep's (Rhino's) suck too, so you can save your breath there.
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04-05-2013 05:12 PM  6 years ago
Dennis (RIP)

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Our country is dying from debt at a hyper pace, with intent, and good old pyschoz cannot take off his liberal rose colored glasses to see it.
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04-05-2013 05:15 PM  6 years ago
Dennis (RIP)

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04-05-2013 06:35 PM  6 years ago
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This shows you just how far some will go to make the other side look bad.
They do that on their own....and I mean both sides.
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04-05-2013 06:59 PM  6 years ago
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Dennis, I can see it, and I can also see that it took both sides to put us where we are today. It was not all Obama no matter how much your conservative glasses allow you to see. Unlike you I know both sides are at fault, there is a reason I left one party and became an independent. I can see both sides suck while you constantly will blame the liberals for everything wrong that has happened. And that is one of the main reasons I left the republican party. I never had to leave the democrat party since I was never one of them.

And as for how I feel about the new gun laws in Connecticut, well that is just a stupid question. You know my stance on guns, and if you want more proof of my stance on firearms then come over and look at my safe and reloading bench. I am a firm believe in the Constitution even though you seem to think different.
Tea Parties are for little girls with imaginary friends
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04-05-2013 07:20 PM  6 years ago
Dennis (RIP)

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Dennis, I can see it, and I can also see that it took both sides to put us where we are today. It was not all Obama no matter how much your conservative glasses allow you to see. Unlike you I know both sides are at fault, there is a reason I left one party and became an independent. I can see both sides suck while you constantly will blame the liberals for everything wrong that has happened. And that is one of the main reasons I left the republican party. I never had to leave the democrat party since I was never one of them.
I left the repubs as well about half way through the Bush years. Obviously, I am a right leaning independent. No question, you are a left leaning independent. No question at all.

The thing you seem to completely ignore is the debt at well in excess of $1 trillion per year since the Obummer was elected with no end in sight. And only denials and distractions to get around it, all perpetrated by the left.

And yes, thats the Obummer's fault.
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04-05-2013 07:30 PM  6 years ago
fla heli boy

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EVERYTHING Dennis just said x 1,000. I've yet to see any single one of us knuckle dragging conservatives here praise Bush or the GOP. I think we're all pretty much all right leaning indy's....except for the few LEFT leaning indy's and the occasional full-blown Libtard.
Me??? I'm proudly a Libertarian without a guy I can vote for.
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04-05-2013 08:15 PM  6 years ago
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