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04-05-2013 12:46 AM  6 years ago
bmapope

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Yep, I've never worried about how I stored my nitro!
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04-05-2013 02:58 AM  6 years ago
Manny1776

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Parallel??Fly High, Fly Fun, Fly Secure.........Fly 3D!!!! Bavarian Demon USA Team
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04-05-2013 03:06 AM  6 years ago
ICUR1-2

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E vs N aside thats gotta suck especialy when new.

just for added safety I don't tie down equipment together or lipos just incase they need to vacate the premises in a hurry

I never thought of a toilet as being a life safety device
just don't flush
spending time, paying attention
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04-05-2013 05:33 AM  6 years ago
GetToDaChopper

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Well i've never worried about my lipos either and personly with a good charger (like a powerlab 6) i don't see who someone could get a lipo to catch fire, i guess it's kind of like i can't see how someone can't fig out how to surf the web with an I-Pad (the easiest device on the planet to use) but even after i've shown him 20 times my dad STILL can't get on the web with a I-Pad unless i'm standing right next to him telling him what to do.
Nitro will never burn because you over filled the jug
and come on MK thats like saying a lipo will NEVER catch fire if you get it too close to an open flame , they are both extremely dangerous in there own way if not handled properly.

Nitro will burn because you over filled the jug if your standing next to a camp fire......

the guys house that burnt to the ground was a long time ago and he left whatever he was storing the nitro in at the time open in a room on a hot summer day and one spark later, well you can guess the rest......
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04-05-2013 06:39 AM  6 years ago
MXRACERX43

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nitro will not ignite from a lit cigarette. The high flash point and resistance to detonation is the main reason high compression nitro engines create HP unrivaled by other liquid fueled engines.Team Miniature Aircraft~Team GensAce
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04-05-2013 06:57 AM  6 years ago
GetToDaChopper

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nether will gasoline but just like gasoline it's the vapor that will get ya.....

the cigarette thing was more of a joke.....
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04-05-2013 07:01 AM  6 years ago
GetToDaChopper

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All helis need batteries? Sure.....NOT all helis need lipos
any joke like that can always be turned around.....

All helis need power? Sure.....NOT all helis need Nitro

see what i mean......
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04-05-2013 07:07 AM  6 years ago
MXRACERX43

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Had an at length discussion about the properties of our nitromethane fuel with an instructor during first responder Hazmat training. Don't want to fuel the debate anymore, further sidetracking this thread. Here's an easy way to put it into perspective without any research ....throw a cup full of fuel on an open fire and wait for they far from impressive result.Team Miniature Aircraft~Team GensAce
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04-05-2013 10:11 AM  6 years ago
McKrackin

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any joke like that can always be turned around.....

All helis need power? Sure.....NOT all helis need Nitro

see what i mean.....
No it can't because we're talking about fires and lipos are about the only battery that has a high risk of fire but FAR from the only battery that can power a heli.

And about saying a lipo will never burn because it was left near an open flame?...Yes it will.
All the same things that will ignite nitro will ignite lipos...Fire will burn either.

Lipos can start their own fire...Nitro can't.
Just face it...Nitro is safer to store and handle than lipos.
If there isn't an existing fire...nitro has zero risk of burning.

Do I need to post a few hundred examples?lol....
I literally never use the word literally right.
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04-05-2013 11:43 AM  6 years ago
Ronald Thomas

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A lipo by itself cannot start a fire, you need a short of some sort or a heat source.Team MikadoUSA 480XXTreme, 550SX, 600SX, 700XXTreme, 800XXTreme!!
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04-05-2013 12:17 PM  6 years ago
HeliNutAndy

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I dropped a lipo from 2 feet high which landed on carpet on Thanksgiving day and it caught fire. I wish there were more nitro options out there because lipo's are clearly unstable. I do take safety precautions but sh$# does happen.
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04-05-2013 04:50 PM  6 years ago
chris6414

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If you smoke when you are fueling anything...... Here is your Darwin award.Century Hawk Sport, OS .32, Futaba 7C, GY-601 9251
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04-05-2013 05:34 PM  6 years ago
seefest

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Ernie, what you say is true.........but what type of battery does YOUR nitro Aurora have?
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04-05-2013 08:13 PM  6 years ago
McKrackin

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I'm back to LiFe since I discovered my power issue. Lol.

No Lipo here
I literally never use the word literally right.
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04-05-2013 08:21 PM  6 years ago
ICUR1-2

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The times safer when everything ran on nitro and nimhs/nicads.

how many tried the glow trick by tapping 1 cell on a rx nicad
spending time, paying attention
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04-05-2013 08:32 PM  6 years ago
icanfly

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yeeeow, that's awful,
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04-05-2013 09:20 PM  6 years ago
doorman

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Turned Into Electric vs Nitro
I do not know why some feel it necessary to turn a post like this into this vs that...
We all enjoy a hobby that can be very dangerous if you do not follow the warnings... and even when we do follow them, things can go bad rapidly, so we need to be in full control of what we are doing at all times... and the goes for electric, nitro, gas, and jetA...
As I mentioned in my earlier post, the technology has come a long way... but that doesn't mean we should just fully depend on it to save our butt's if something does go wrong.. that is on us to take care of...
I can truthfully say that I have never had a nitro fire... but I can say that I did have a small lipo go up when the charger read it improperly.. luckily I was in the shop while it was charging and I was able to pull it and get it out of my basement just before it chose to go up in flames.. could have been partially my fault if I entered something wrong, don't think so, but if is not impossible.. and with that said, I am now at about 98% electric, and I like it...and do not plan on returning to nitro or gas... just doing what and how I like it... hope there is nothing wrong with that??
Just heed the warnings and pay attention to whatever it is your doing.. I really feel that this is more of what the post was supposed to be about..
A very real reminder...
NUFF SAID!!!!

Stan
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04-05-2013 10:08 PM  6 years ago
McKrackin

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Well said Stan.
I never go for the this vs that.
The only thing I do is counter ridiculous falsehoods. Lol.

Lipos can start fires.
They can. They have. They will continue to do so as long as humans are using them.

Nitro can not start a fire. It requires a fire to already be there before it can burn.

We saw the post with 32 cases of nitro in the garage. Perfectly safe.

Would you feel as safe with 128 lipos in your garage all summer? I wouldn't.
One factory defect or one really hot day and that garage is no more. Maybe taking your house and family with it.

They can be handled safely but they can't be left unattended in a hot building for any amount of time.
They can't be charged unattended without risk of fire.
They can't be mishandled in any way without risk of fire.

I really don't care about semantics.
They can't produce flames on their own but they can make heat exceeding 1000 degrees. That heat will turn the plastic and vinyl around them to flames and anything around them as well. Including nitro. Do not store your nitro close to lipos!

All this said...so sorry for the owner of that burned out bunch of lipos and he's lucky it wasn't close to a case of nitro.
I literally never use the word literally right.
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04-05-2013 10:25 PM  6 years ago
Ronald Thomas

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Wow Ernie, wrong but wow.Team MikadoUSA 480XXTreme, 550SX, 600SX, 700XXTreme, 800XXTreme!!
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04-05-2013 11:28 PM  6 years ago
GetToDaChopper

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i left this one awhile ago.....

Actually i should come clean, i only own 2 lipo batteries, both are for my Blade MXR and sense my house is on a very large lot i had a specially made steel reinforced concrete bunker constructed 100 yards for my house to store those two lipos in, and i also must admit that i keep a 55 gal drum of nitro in my bedroom right next to my space heater and i sleep very well knowing it's there, in fact i have a 1 gal jug of nitro i use as a pillow and i've never had any problems whatsoever !
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