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04-02-2013 04:48 PM  6 years ago
SGrim80

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When I spoke with Wisesales when looking for my generator they pushed the honda. They claimed they had more warranty breakage issues with the yamaha than the honda. That's why I went with the honda.Mikado USA
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04-02-2013 05:30 PM  6 years ago
stang281472

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Actually think Honda sales are lagging and they are trying to keep Honda happy with the sales numbers. If they were really having that many repairs you would hear about it on the web from customers. I bought my Yamaha from wisesales and they had nothing but praise for the Yamaha over the Honda. Was buying Yamaha regardless of what they said but they didnt know that. For all we know there could be more profit margin on the Honda and naturally they will push whatever will make them the most money. I actually looked into buying second Yamaha right after the hurricane to use in parallel if needed and wisesales were sold out of Yamaha and said they had an insane rush on Yamaha generators but still had Honda in stock.

Its Like when I bought my last Iphone guy at AT&T was pushing Android like crazy on me when I said specifically I wanted Iphone 4S at time. After 10 min of back and forth told him I am about to walk out and give someone else my business if he didnt sell me the Iphone. Told me he was told to push Android becasue of incentive for them at time.

Bottom line do your own research and know what you want BEFORE buying.
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04-02-2013 05:42 PM  6 years ago
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When I spoke with Wisesales when looking for my generator they pushed the honda. They claimed they had more warranty breakage issues with the yamaha than the honda. That's why I went with the honda.
You my friend have been sold! Never listen to a sales guy! His goal is to talk you into buying what makes him a better commision or higher profit margin.

Your own research should make your decision for you, not a sales guys recommendation.

This being said, both are good gennys but i prefer the yammy, according to my research. And thats what i bought!
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04-02-2013 06:38 PM  6 years ago
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If they were really having that many repairs you would hear about it on the web from customers.
Reminds me a lot of those melted plastic Honda camshafts.
  
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04-02-2013 08:21 PM  6 years ago
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Reminds me a lot of those melted plastic Honda camshafts.
At least there is no chance of that happening with the Yamaha.

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04-02-2013 08:52 PM  6 years ago
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You my friend have been sold! Never listen to a sales guy! His goal is to talk you into buying what makes him a better commision or higher profit margin.
Your own research should make your decision for you, not a sales guys recommendation.
This being said, both are good gennys but i prefer the yammy, according to my research. And thats what i bought!
I actually did a ton of research before I bought my Honda. I wanted to go with Yamaha but I watched a video of a honda and a yamaha 2000 watters each running a 2000ish watt load and the honda stayed running and the yamaha cut off after a few seconds. That sold me on Honda, combined with the salesman's thoughts. I didn't "get sold" as you say but based on my previous comment (in which I didnt elaborate) I can see how one could assume I did. Honestly, I think you really cant go wrong buying either. My first decision was that I couldn't decide LOL
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04-02-2013 09:02 PM  6 years ago
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At least there is no chance of that happening with the Yamaha.
No chance of getting 2,000W out of the Yamaha for more than 20 seconds either. Tested and verified by the ARRL.

No fuel pump also means a major hassle setting up an extended run fuel tank also.
  
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04-02-2013 09:10 PM  6 years ago
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Why would you expect 2000w for 20 seconds? That is just for very short surges. These generators are rated for 1600w continuous. Anything higher than that "continuous" might damage the units. Hasn't this been said over and over?

Buy you gen based on continuous use. If you are going to be spiking the surge capacity continuously, you need a bigger genny.
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04-02-2013 09:14 PM  6 years ago
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No chance of getting 2,000W out of the Yamaha for more than 20 seconds either. Tested and verified by the ARRL.
No fuel pump also means a major hassle setting up an extended run fuel tank also.
No chance of burning out inverter either. Its a protection feature. Honda SHOULD NOT BE RUN LONG IN OVERLOAD EITHER. Will save that $600 repair for you

As for major hassle of external tank thats complete BS there is a extended run tank that has small electric pump on it for Yamaha or you just put tank sligtly higher than carb level of generator with standard extended run tank. Maybe lifting tank a few inches is major hassle to you, it isnt to me.
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04-02-2013 09:17 PM  6 years ago
stang281472

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Why would you expect 2000w for 20 seconds? That is just for very short surges. These generators are rated for 1600w continuous. Anything higher than that "continuous" might damage the units. Hasn't this been said over and over?
Buy you gen based on continuous use. If you are going to be spiking the surge capacity continuously, you need a bigger genny.
Could not agree more. Giving people the impression its OK to overload the generator for extended times will be costly mistake for them.
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04-02-2013 09:53 PM  6 years ago
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Why would you expect 2000w for 20 seconds? That is just for very short surges. These generators are rated for 1600w continuous. Anything higher than that "continuous" might damage the units. Hasn't this been said over and over?

Buy you gen based on continuous use. If you are going to be spiking the surge capacity continuously, you need a bigger genny
+2 Hoot ! I agree as well!!

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04-02-2013 10:10 PM  6 years ago
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Unlike the Yamaha, the Honda is rated for 2,000W max.

http://powerequipment.honda.com/gen.../models/eu2000i

"AC Output 120V 2000W max. (16.7A) 1600W rated (13.3A)"
  
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04-02-2013 10:12 PM  6 years ago
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As for major hassle of external tank thats complete BS there is a extended run tank that has small electric pump
Looks like a poor design to me...if it's needed it should be part of the generator.
  
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04-02-2013 10:23 PM  6 years ago
stang281472

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Poor design is plastic camshaft, oil splasher and Gov. gear in your Honda all of which are properly desigdned in metal on the Yamaha.
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04-02-2013 10:25 PM  6 years ago
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Poor design is plastic camshaft, oil splasher and Gov. gear in your Honda
If they were really having that many repairs you would hear about it on the web from customers.
Still waiting for all those reports.
  
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04-03-2013 12:15 AM  6 years ago
kris L

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Still waiting for all those reports
Here's one. - kris

Written on: 05/11/2010 by thall (1 review written)

I have a 3 year old 2000 EU Honda, a few weeks ago the entire thing caught on fire while being run. Internal parts melted and very luckily the thing did not blow up. My unit had only 50 or 60 hours of run time on it. Honda service rep had all kinds of excuses and basically blamed it on user error. One of his excuses was that I must have parked my car next to it and hot exaust burned a whole in the side of the plastic. I realized that the unit was not under warranty, but I fully expected Honda to stand behind their products, I guess I was wrong. I will be contacting the Federal safety comission and send them pictures of the melted and burned Honda unit. Very dissapointed in Honda in how they dealt with me. The service rep even went so far as to black out his email and phone # on his card, so I could not contact him again. Please let me know if anyone has heard of similar issues. thall@hctc.com
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04-03-2013 12:19 AM  6 years ago
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Here's two

Written on: 04/02/2011

After 4 months being stored with Stabil in it, it would only run on choke. The jets were reamed and 10 days later I tried to start it again and the same thing. The carburator is so sensitive it can't sit, even when the bowl is drained, and start. It's quiet though, especially when it doesn't run.

This is why You run it out of gas. Oh that's right you can't on the Honda. You have to do the gas valve mod. You say OH, I HAVE TO MOD A $1000 PREMIUM MACHINE? Makes alot of sense doesn't it?

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04-03-2013 12:19 AM  6 years ago
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I wonder if that's what prompted the Honda recall for the fuel leak issue.Team POP Secret
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04-03-2013 12:23 AM  6 years ago
kris L

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Three:

Written on: 03/08/2010

Great inverter, however my only beefs are it is a pain to fill with gas, and to change the oil. When filling with gas you have to pour very slow, if you are filling from a full jerry can expect to make a mess. The second issue is changing oil, impossible to do without making a huge mess, the oil drains into the bottom of the inverter and onto the legs, so be sure not to put it on the floor of your RV or truck, very little thought put into this by the manufacturer.

Yes the gas opening is wider on the Yamaha so you can see in the tank as you pour and you can watch the tank gas gauge move to full. Oh, that's right the Honda does not have a gas gauge so you know when it is full when the gas you are pouring spills on the floor.

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04-03-2013 12:33 AM  6 years ago
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Recall:

Honda EU2000i generator recall
Heads up EU2000i owners.....

quote:
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WASHINGTON, D.C. - The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, in cooperation with the firm named below, today announced a voluntary recall of the following consumer product. Consumers should stop using recalled products immediately unless otherwise instructed. It is illegal to resell or attempt to resell a recalled consumer product.

Name of Product: Portable Generators

Units: About 150,600

Distributor: American Honda Motor Co. Inc., of Torrance, Calif.

Hazard: The generator’s fuel hose can leak, posing fire and burn hazards.

Incidents/Injuries: Honda is aware of four incidents of fuel leaks. No fires or injuries have been reported.

Description: This recall involves Honda gasoline-powered portable generators with model number EU2000i and serial numbers EAAJ-2260273 through EAAJ-2485025. The generators are black and red in color or have a camouflage design. They measure about 20 inches long by 11 ½ inches wide by 16 ½ inches tall. “Honda,” “EU converter” and the model number 2000i are printed on the side of the generator. “Companion” is printed on the side of some EU2000i models. The serial number is located on the lower right side, rear corner of the generator.

Sold at: Honda Power Equipment dealers, Camping World, Gander Mountain, Grainger, Hertz Rental, John Deere, National Pump & Compressor, Northern Tool, Scheels Sporting, Sportsman’s Warehouse, Sunbelt Rentals, True Value, United Rentals, White Cap and Wholesale Sports store nationwide and online from October 2011 through September 2012 for between $1,150 and $1,400.

Manufactured in: Japan

Remedy: Consumers should immediately stop using the recalled generators and contact the nearest Honda Power Equipment dealer to schedule a free inspection and repair.

Consumer Contact: American Honda; Phone toll-free (888) 888-3139, 8:30 a.m. to 5 p.m. ET Monday through Friday, or online at »powerequipment.honda.com and click on “Recalls and Updates” under “Service and Support” for more information.

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Kris
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