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03-10-2013 09:12 PM  5 years agoPost 21
Dennis (RIP)

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03-11-2013 02:55 AM  5 years agoPost 22
es1co2bar3

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Freedom and liberty are not terms you can quantify.You have them or you dont
Well the way thing are going that quote is in a shamble', i can
tell you that.
it's a complicated quote and the constitution bare the brunt of
of the hypocrisy.
Tell me the leader of the free worlds isn't dam smart.?? to think this
trough.' A government this big did not just happen trough [freedom and liberty]( people get kills and robbed} of their right to choice,

Final example OBAMA HEALHSCARE.:

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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04-03-2013 12:58 AM  5 years agoPost 23
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Sorry I missed responding Esco

Think about it a little more.You cant have a little bit of
it and not have nothing.Granted we must mutually agree on some limitations.One side of a disagreement unilaterally deciding on the fate of another is in no way mutual.Think WAR.
True enough that leaders are generally not stupid ppl.Ignorant maybe but not stupid.
The Constitution is very clear when interpreted based on the original intent of the words.Original intent in context with the writing is the key.
Example:
"Gonna take him out behind the barn and teach him a lesson or two"
This can mean several things depending on the intent of the person saying it.Could be you intend to drag his butt out and beat some sense into him.Could also be that you have enough respect for him to not get into a heated argument in front of peers so a more private location is a better option.There are several other possible interpretations.
Without knowledge of intent any interpretation is a shot in the dark and the odds are it is incorrect.Even more so as the number of possible interpretations increases.
The Constitution was not written Metaphorically.It was written with specific intent.The context of the intent should be pretty clear even to my dog(She happens to be quite a bit sharper than the avg ppl I meet on the street).

Rights are infringed upon and eventually nullified because ppl are generally fat and lazy.They are not willing to get off their fat butts and exercise them.They are given up by implied consent.
When you consider that a voting percentage is considered high at 25% it might make more sense.
Intelligence plays a pretty big role in it all as well.
Intelligence also has nothing to do with being Smart.It implies the ability to be smart.That doesnt make it automatic.I know several highly intelligent ppl that do the stupidest things I can imagine.I also know some ppl that are pretty smart but have no IQ.
Figure that one out.
Fraud being committed through lying,cheating and the use of deception is something completely different.This is based on criminal intent to gain something not rightfully yours.
Im not going down that road now."Out behind the barn" definitely comes to mind here.

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04-03-2013 01:25 AM  5 years agoPost 24
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Exceptionally well put : Re:
Fanney May / Freddie Mac : Once held public banking institution's - for major $$ morgage loan's of property -

Now operated by the Government in which the Tax payers is now back stopping and bailing out their own collapse.

Due too monkey business further propagated by a social precept of the Government

General Motor's : The Leader of a Nation insists to the board that the CEO or President of a Corporation must be fired or - they will not recieve a federally funded tax payer supported bail out

Your DOW hit 14666 today : the majority have absolutely NO Clue

They do not care - and are apathetic - complacent
just stand and wait for your food stamp's up too 350 million ??

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04-03-2013 03:35 AM  5 years agoPost 25
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I love "my" Dow.
The fools are going to push silver down enough that I just might need to pick up some more before the bottom falls out.
I can pretty much guarantee that the ones cooking the books arent going to get caught holding a pile of worthless paper.

Keep your saddle soaped up and your pads fresh at the ready.We are going on a ride.

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04-03-2013 03:49 AM  5 years agoPost 26
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Sorry paper went out with the tree's -and you cannot eat coinage
All they have too do is pull the handle on the Giant Electronic Monetary database : That Simple : That Fast

A week ago they electronically blinded South Korea - a whole Nation
they did it - it is fact.

They did it to Cyprus last week - Didn't cart it off did they ???- just shifted a decimal point on the citizens. It's gone but they can eat.

Lives based upon a piece of plastic, a CRT or LCD screen.

Waiting till it's really ripe. Market's are being flooded with incoming transaction's of purchase. No place is safe - put the burden of debt payment on the AMERICANS.

Almost ready

Oct 1 Obama Care enrollment start's : With the threat of immigration reform - they are pouring over the boundaries hoping to get grandfathered in.

16 T down - a touch of sequestration at only 54 billion " MINOR "
and the good one they arn't telling ?? The Un Funded Liabilities down the road : Note { Liability } can't get out of them

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04-03-2013 04:12 AM  5 years agoPost 27
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fwiw..

Dang it...From the title I thought this wuz gunna be an expose of a law firm......

BC

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04-03-2013 04:40 PM  5 years agoPost 28
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aerocal
Well to my understanding of
The constitution of freedom, its
Was suppose to substantial but not
Limited but, I personally think a line
Is being drawn here"- politically and
Socially.

I think the social part of life is being
Infringement by the government not so
Much by the Republican party but, the
Democrat. They seem to have severe
Impact on b or where the country is going.

By them infringing on the right to how
We conduct our self morally, spiritually,
Socially, politically, this shown that the
Constitution is not substantial but, is
Indeed limited to what we can do.

Now this is going to get really interesting
In the next few year when all the moral
Issue oppose by the mujority as become
Legal without a vote from the other side as far as

Gays right, union right and all other thit
That'll be a Devine hit on what folks
Call constitutional freedom
.

I overstand our globe is held together
By a church and a constitution, we simply" cannot
Have one without the other as the laws
Will become truely messy to up held.

For instant the battle for gay's right
And what' s right.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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04-03-2013 08:20 PM  5 years agoPost 29
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Esco
I think you may have a huge misunderstanding of the role the Constitution was intended to play.It in no way limits what we can do.
If affirms what we can do and limits what the govt can do.
You need to understand the reasons why.You have to go back to the "intent" of those who wrote it and put it into effect.
Despite what many are led to believe these individuals were not incapable of envisioning our future or our now current situation.To the contrary what we have is exactly what they envisioned.They forged and created wonderful tools for us to make our lives better.the key word here is "us".What we have pretty much done is left them out in the rain to become rusty and useless to anyone.

Without the Constitution we are in the same situation as Turkish Armenians in the early 1900s,the Russians under Stalin,the Chinese under Mao Dezung,the Cambodians and the Khmer Rouge,Germany and much of Europe under Hitler,Idi Amin and several others in Africa.The list goes on.
Without it we are all of the places that ppl left their families and homes and came here to escape.Without it we have exactly the same opportunities that they had where they came from.

I could write an entire chapter about "buzzwords" but the bottom line is that we are being duped.Being a recent addition to this situation I understand you dont have any generational insight into what this country stands for.
I do however expect you to get "up to speed" and not fall into the same "us and them" mentality that the majority of this country seems to have fallen into.I sick to friggin death of the repeated blame being placed on the Republicans or the Democrats.Wake the F up!!!.They are the same friggin ppl with the same agenda.Get past it.That pain in your lip is a hook and it is attached to a line and a HUGE sinker.Im absolutely certain you fully understand.Im not buying what you and millions of others are trying to accomplish.Your being used like a cheap hooker.

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04-03-2013 08:41 PM  5 years agoPost 30
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What is even MORE : Remarkable; Is the method they used to write it !!! They KNEW !

That this moment would sooner or later arise !! They needed a method that could not be broken - it would be permanently binding.

Why they used the template that they did - why many cried when it was actually completed. They Knew it WOULD HOLD and not be messed with.

If they pulled on one thread of the tapestry it would have a direct effect on the whole tapestry ! Effect the Country as a whole.

What Makes AMERICA / AMERICA

For if man is left to his own device's :

Some how he will devise a method to get around it, bend it or break it, or modify it's original intention for a unsavory purpose of malcontent. To a Man's Device or Purpose

We are here at that point and the GOVERNMENT is FULL of IT :
We Know it - They ALSO Know It !! Hence the Many issues of self preservation they are tossing like the finial Lot's.

Those that are Not Being Held for their accountability but have steered a purpose for their own device : are very aware - It was pursued with intention.

KNow WHY it is NOT - or has been removed from academia - The Original template it was constructed from - The basis of the Constitutional Foundation: Real Deal it's even on the Tender.

The Huh or Wha is going to be Huge !!!!

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04-03-2013 10:03 PM  5 years agoPost 31
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Aerocal
I get your saying but your not quiet correct
Saying we have the power to limit what the GOV
Can do I fundamentally disagree with that. But if
That the case'

Then why all the proposition the people come up
With wont last? ' everyday somthing is being taken
From the people, I ask you the other day what do
You define as freedom and liberty for all. It seem
Like the court is one that define what that mean.

We can lamented on this all day for what I see we aren't free if we're not in the decision making body. All we do is vote and that thit get override
Anyway;

Base on your assumtion even tho you think we are
Bounds by laws compare to other country in acents time we are still being infring on, so at this token
We're not much differ from them in those days.

As far as there's no atrocities commit against
Us on a large scale.

Just take a look at what is the so called constitution and what it's consisted of compare to
What is happening around us and in Washington,
I feel neglected and left out because I am shouting
And not a single sound is being heard.

So dont tell me I dont understand,' freedom and
Liberty is under conspiracy if you dont come
To this conclusion your self then you're miss inform
Or dont understand the world around you.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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04-03-2013 10:25 PM  5 years agoPost 32
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Esco
To a point Im simply jerking you around.My intent here is to keep the brain engaged.I hear your shouting.
I gotta go get some actual work done but I will get back to you when I have time.

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04-03-2013 10:27 PM  5 years agoPost 33
Dennis (RIP)

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Esco
To a point Im simply jerking you around.My intent here is to keep the brain engaged.I hear your shouting.
Thats funny.

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04-03-2013 10:38 PM  5 years agoPost 34
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Its about as funny as a heartattack.

Im gonna drag you into it too.You just dont know it yet.We are searching for solutions.If we dont find them we are all gonna cook.While there may be some huge disparities in where the responsibility lays we will surly all end up in the same oven.
Very few will escape.

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04-03-2013 10:50 PM  5 years agoPost 35
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We are searching for solutions.If we dont find them we are all gonna cook.
We are well done and burnt to a crisp right now. To many have no clue.
While there may be some huge disparities in where the responsibility lays we will surly all end up in the same oven.
Very few will escape.
Already there. And, you are correct. There is no escape.

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