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03-08-2013 04:48 AM  5 years agoPost 1
harve28

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Getting interference when I turn on the system every item is new which was included in the super combo. I am using two sats instead of a rx ,I have used this setup before in other 600 nitros. It will stop jerking after calibration until I start moving servos again on swash. Is it possible for a servo to be bad? New out of the box. This has stumped me as I have had this built for over a week and cannot test fly . One more thing I unhooked the 2-1 regulator and plugged it into a volt meter with a 3000 mah 7.4 lipo and it reads right at 6-6.2 volts. Thanks in advance will try and appreciate any ideas.

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03-08-2013 03:22 PM  5 years agoPost 2
wifeorheli

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first off the regulator is working at the right voltage. Next when you boot up does the swash jump 3 times? also is it possible to get a video im sure i know what you as it has happened to me. Just want to make sure so i dont point you in wrong direction.

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03-08-2013 11:04 PM  5 years agoPost 3
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I'm getting a real hard chatter first when i turn on power and then the swash jumps 3 times and I move swash around and it starts jumping around again seems like pitch servo is worse than the others. I will try to get a video when I get home.

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03-10-2013 05:42 PM  5 years agoPost 4
coolice

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Hey.

It sounds as though the regulator isn't power enough for V3 unfortunately. Do your sats flash at all to singal a brownout?

V3 is known to pull more amps in controlling the same setup which used to run V2.1, Align recommend keeping the gain pots at 10 o'clock or below for power supplys which are underrated.

To be honest in a FBL setup the Align 2in1 isn't powerful enough, many have had brownouts on the bench when cycling the servos. The extra flight loads on the servos combined with now 3 gyros controlling them drives current draw up. Also Align servos are known to be more power hungry than other makers.

Change the regulator for a LiFe pack or a higher rated regulator and your problem will be fixed I'm sure.

Servos need 6 volts to meet the minimum spec for the 3GX.
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03-10-2013 11:36 PM  5 years agoPost 5
harve28

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Thanks I believe you are exactly right as far as I can tell. I seen that all 615 and 655 are also rated for 4.8v so I unplugged regulator and plugged in a step down regulator of 5.1 volts from align and the jerking stopped.servos seem to be working more smoothly and together I have not tried to fly it like this yet but as far as jerking in relation to acting like interference. Will this step down regulator hold up to the test I put it inline out of the regulator and plugged the step down into the 3GX no problems so far but I don't want to be mid flight and regulator go out and servos start going crazy! Thanks again I'm going to contact align tomorrow and see what they say. Thanks darrin.

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03-10-2013 11:54 PM  5 years agoPost 6
wifeorheli

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I had to ditch the 2n1 due to it could not handle my system. I think the 2n1 is rated at 6 amps max. I could stir all the sticks on the bench and cause a brown out with the 3gx due to the 2n1. I upgraded to a Scott grey reactor x2 which is rated at 20amps+ i think and issue went away. Added a push glo and was awsome. the 2n1 is good for entry level helis and pilots IMO not good for hard 3d and the newer POWER HUNGRY setups. Also sometimes my 3gx will act wierd and everything will wig out and i have to reboot it to stop it. Get us some video.

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03-11-2013 02:56 AM  5 years agoPost 7
harve28

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I will try to get some video . Align is going to have to step it up in the game I could have seriously destroyed a brand new heli. Because of a lack of research on there part. I love align products but I'm not going to use their electronics if these problems continue! We pay big money for this hobby and super combos aren't working out. I have also read were people are having the 3gx going crazy with static electricity just by touching the chrome cover.align should refund us the regulator in these combos. Scott grey reactor is expensive for someone that just got laid off from work. Oh well there is more important things to worry about in life.

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03-11-2013 04:12 AM  5 years agoPost 8
wifeorheli

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heres what i ended up doing after my sg x2 broke i got a cc bec pro there like 35$ there used on electrics and there 20amps. BUT you need to open the case up and pack it full of hot glue or the vibrations from the nitro break the wires off. I have been running the bec for months now and LOVE IT. just make sure you mod the inside with glue.

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03-11-2013 04:15 AM  5 years agoPost 9
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Where do I find this? What website? Thanks 35.00 sounds alot better,when u are unemployed!

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03-11-2013 10:00 AM  5 years agoPost 10
coolice

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Hey.

A LiFe pack will be even cheaper, just one purchase and a steady 6.6 volts.
With this Rx pack they'll be no need for a regulator and one less thing to go wrong, saves the expense of a regulator.

The BEC PRO's are good units, 20amps peak and 10amps continous depending on the power going into them.
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03-11-2013 09:47 PM  5 years agoPost 11
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yea i love the bec pros i think its funny no one really uses them on nitros. Only problem is you HAVE to pack em with hot glue or the wires will fall off due to the vibes. I used to run the SG X2 but its pricey and the cc bec pro is SUPER cheap with about the same amp rating. Anyhow I will run the bec pro from now on you cannot beat it and you can fully program it within .1 of voltage you want all the way up to 2S HV. I tried the LiFe route before I had some problems and also hard to really tell when the pack is done as it flat lines when its there. To scetchy for me. COOLICE whats up buddy hows the v3.0 firmware treating you? I would like to talk with you later and get some tuning tips!

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03-24-2013 02:45 AM  5 years agoPost 12
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I am having the same issue and about the put the CC Pro on mine. My deal is I like the on board glow of the 2 in 1. Will I be able to have both and if so how ?

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03-25-2013 02:37 PM  5 years agoPost 13
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In reference to using just a LIFE pack in place of a regulator and lipo what are the risks and what capacity pack would be a good choice to replace the 2 in 1 and 1900 lipo ?

My plan was to have two 2100 life packs so I can swap out at field after a set number of flights.

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03-25-2013 04:02 PM  5 years agoPost 14
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Thats odd...

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03-26-2013 12:58 PM  5 years agoPost 15
Dino Spadaccini

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pull the links off the servos and start up the system make sure there is no binding start at the servos first if you dont get any jerking then something in the setup of the links or rods is wrong also do not regulate the 3gx 3.0 below 6 v you could brown out, the new firmware needs to have at least 6v

if you still have this problem with the rods off and just the servos into the 3gx and your sure you bound correctly i suggest you send the 3gx in to assurance with a copy of your invoice.

you can email tim at

tim@alignrcusa.com for a RMA

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03-26-2013 05:55 PM  5 years agoPost 16
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Already have one of my 3GX units for a 250 we sold to a customer that has not flown since day one, which also has power issues with the ESC BEC. Bent torque tube out of the kit, swash would not fit on main shaft (fixed that ourselves). Received a replacement torque tube shipped only in a padded envelope so we ended up with another bent torque tube. Ended up refunding the customer after 3 weeks and now stuck with a POS 250 that we cant sell. Needless to say not thrilled with Assurance support so I will tackle this one with community support.

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03-27-2013 03:12 PM  5 years agoPost 17
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I have now tried three 3GX units, two belonging to me and one borrowed. V3 firware and hooked to 2 in 1 results in the same issue on all three. I put in a CC Pro Regulator in place of the 2 in 1 and the problem goes away on all three.

I was going to use the CC BEC Pro, which fixes the issue but I have read several posts about the CC Pro wires breaking loose due to vibration. Can someone recommend a regulator? I think the last one I used was an Arizona Reg.

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03-27-2013 03:37 PM  5 years agoPost 18
harve28

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Turns out guys my problem was a servo which align is replacing or at least said they were time will tell.

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03-29-2013 03:50 PM  5 years agoPost 19
Dino Spadaccini

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did you get a RMA and contact Tim at Assurance

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03-29-2013 04:24 PM  5 years agoPost 20
coolice

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I have now tried three 3GX units, two belonging to me and one borrowed. V3 firware and hooked to 2 in 1 results in the same issue on all three. I put in a CC Pro Regulator in place of the 2 in 1 and the problem goes away on all three.

I was going to use the CC BEC Pro, which fixes the issue but I have read several posts about the CC Pro wires breaking loose due to vibration. Can someone recommend a regulator? I think the last one I used was an Arizona Reg.
Hey.

There have been some reports of the BEC PRO wires coming adrift from the board, but in most cases I think the ferrite ring (which is close to the main unit) has not been secured and flaps around in flight. This causes undue stress on the wires and eventually breaks them. I have a BEC PRO V2 on my old V1 550 and it worked (is still) great with no problems, as do many others so don't discount it.

You could go without a regulator altogether and fit a LiFe pack to power the radio gear, these output 6.6 volts and Align servos can take this voltage all ok.
The Arizona is a good regulator, I'm not entirely sure of it's power output as far as amps go, so make sure it to is up to the job.

The Gyrphon Extreme 7075(?) regulator is good, I use one in my own 700E DFC, but it's not cheap.
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