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02-23-2013 06:34 PM  5 years agoPost 1
johnbs8

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i get blue light @ 7 deg of cyclic. should i adjust it for 6deg or should i set it to blue at 7 and call it done?

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02-23-2013 06:39 PM  5 years agoPost 2
cudaboy_71

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you should adjust to get blue at 6.

if it ain't broke, break it.

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02-23-2013 07:01 PM  5 years agoPost 3
nappyroots2182

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i have let it be if its close as long as the blue light is on i call it good. i dont know what difference it makes. would like to know though

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02-23-2013 07:18 PM  5 years agoPost 4
RaymondJ

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http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=404788

6 degrees explained on helifreak

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02-23-2013 08:03 PM  5 years agoPost 5
nappyroots2182

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i understand better setup is beter but what i still dont understand is if i get blue light at 6or7 what kinda of difference is it in the air? love the way my beast flys but its kinda slow on the cyclic but i dont need much more. but overall it flys perfect and smooth

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02-23-2013 09:12 PM  5 years agoPost 6
johnbs8

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Ive heard by a few pros to just leave it, but that was last year lol

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02-23-2013 10:24 PM  5 years agoPost 7
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You want to care more about 6 degrees than the color

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02-24-2013 01:19 AM  5 years agoPost 8
pH7

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It needs to be told correctly where 6 degrees is. If the color is not blue it is just informing you that your setup is not optimal. But adjust to 6 before proceeding to the next step.

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02-24-2013 01:48 AM  5 years agoPost 9
TMoore

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All this is doing is setting the max throw that the FBL controller can apply for a given rate of cyclic command. If you want to change the cyclic response change the EPA of the roll or pitch(nick) setting in the radio or change the response feel in tbe FBL controller. The lights on the controller confirm that you have a servo arm that is the right length for the task.

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02-24-2013 02:18 PM  5 years agoPost 10
BJames111

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Try using 7 or 8 degrees, you'll get a snappier response.

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02-24-2013 02:28 PM  5 years agoPost 11
TMoore

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Exactly, the 6 degrees is just a starting point not a hard fast rule. The Cyclic limits will depend on where the system binds at, blade weight, servo power and speed, in short there are a few factors to juggle.

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02-24-2013 03:00 PM  5 years agoPost 12
nappyroots2182

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ill try turning it up to 8. as if i turn it up in the transmitter or into pro mode or extreme it dont speed the cyclic up enough to even notice. so ur saying if i get the blue light or not to not worry bout the color of the light?

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02-24-2013 04:04 PM  5 years agoPost 13
heliocolorado

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I have one set up at 6 red. It goes blue at 6.5. And it flys fine. I simple ran out of adjustment options.

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02-24-2013 04:47 PM  5 years agoPost 14
P.I.Engineer

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Adjust step J to 6 and leave it there, that is not where you set your mechanical endpoints, that's in step L I believe

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02-24-2013 08:00 PM  5 years agoPost 15
TMoore

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With the Beast and some of the clones I think the 6 degree is just verifying enough mechanical advantage with the correctly sized servo arm.

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02-25-2013 06:24 PM  5 years agoPost 16
Simmer

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It is 6 degrees as others have listed. because that sets the calculations for the head. If geometry is not optimal, you might not get blue at 6. How does this translate to flying?
Glad you asked

Your not optimal. Will you notice? Maybe, maybe not.
You should try to get the geometry dead on like you do your putch curves and tracking. Why stop there?

This can be adjusted by the balls on the swash (longer or shorter)
Balls on the main grips, distance from the main shaft, a big culprit here. I have found the KDE head on my Trex600 was not going to make the blue led, but the RJX head gave me the blue led. That ball on these grips is noticably further from the main shaft.

Lastly the servo wheel. 10MM or close to this. (ball to ball on the wheel)

Bottom line, its worth it to have it as close to perfect as possible, unless your just hovering and flying around a bit. In this case, you prob wont notice the difference. (were talking flp/roll rate.) This is where mine improved quite a bit with the new head.

Remember the geopmetry is exponmential. It does change things at extremes based on this initial setting. (IMHO)

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02-25-2013 08:52 PM  5 years agoPost 17
nappyroots2182

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well on my velocity 50 i have it to pro mode and the cyclic is slow. with my rotortechs and radix both FB blades. im asking about the 6 as maybe taking it higher then 6 for setup will help? i know i can set the FBL to transmitter mode and bump it up but have done that too with little change. id like to figure out a way to speed it up just a little more. its slower then the FB ever was on this heli

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02-25-2013 09:02 PM  5 years agoPost 18
BJames111

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Use TX mode, not any of the preset modes. During set up, use 8 degrees for the blue light, not six. Max out the elevator and aileron until it binds on the main shaft. Use the DR to speed up or slow down the flip and roll rates. (you can go over 100%)

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02-25-2013 09:32 PM  5 years agoPost 19
nappyroots2182

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sounds like a plan.

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02-25-2013 10:21 PM  5 years agoPost 20
Richardmid1

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During set up, use 8 degrees for the blue light, not six.
NO!!!!!!!

RTFM!!!!!

You have to set 6 degrees! Ignore the colour unless it is way off! As already said blue light is optimal. THIS SETTING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CYCLIC RATE AND NEITHER DOES 'CYCLIC LIMIT SETTING'!!!

All the preset flight modes are fairly slow on cyclic, only really changes are the built in expo. You need TX mode and bump up your DR for elevator and aileron, I use 110-120% DR. The cyclic response setting speeds up the initial reaction of the cyclic kind of like what pitch boost does to the pitch but for the cyclic.

60% of the time, it works every time!

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