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02-01-2013 09:40 PM  5 years agoPost 1
johnnyo7

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Has anyone tried the CC Ice 50 on their machine. Not the lite!!

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02-01-2013 10:00 PM  5 years agoPost 2
mnc

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you would need to run a separate bec with a castle

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02-03-2013 09:53 PM  5 years agoPost 3
RAK402

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The ICE 50 should have a built in, 5 amp BEC.

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02-04-2013 12:15 AM  5 years agoPost 4
mnc

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that is 5 amp max.on 6 cell I think is less

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02-05-2013 01:31 AM  5 years agoPost 5
frito169

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many are running it successfully. I run the YGE 60 with internal bec

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02-05-2013 01:48 AM  5 years agoPost 6
RAK402

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"that is 5 amp max.on 6 cell I think is less"

I will call Castle tomorrow, and find out. I know on their blue, 10 Amp BEC, the current rating drops as the number of cells increased. I studied the manual, but cannot find anything like that in it.

It never hurts to be safe on these things.

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02-05-2013 03:28 AM  5 years agoPost 7
johnnyo7

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Are they running the Ice 50 or the Ice Lite 50??

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02-06-2013 04:11 PM  5 years agoPost 8
RAK402

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I just spoke with a technical person at Castle creations (who was very helpful and professional).

MNC was correct-the current rating on the Ice 50's BEC does drop as the number of cells increases. The Castle person could not be specific regarding the actual current rating of the BEC on six cells and suggested that the helicopter be tested thoroughly on the bench by moving the servos rapidly and to the extremes of travel for one minute to check for brown outs.

I will be running one of the small, CC 10 ampe BEC's from one of the two three cell packs in order to have five amps available to the on board electronics.

Thank you for pointing this out, MNC. My apologies for doubting you, sir.

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02-07-2013 01:50 PM  5 years agoPost 9
mnc

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I found out the hard way that castle bec are not 5 amp not even close so be carful and test your setup

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02-19-2013 08:44 PM  5 years agoPost 10
GetToDaChopper

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just use the same ESC that the mini protos uses YGE 60 amp with builtin BEC, runs cool, has BEC, 3 - 6 cell, and doesn't cost a ton of money......

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02-19-2013 09:34 PM  5 years agoPost 11
RAK402

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The Warp has now been test flown (three actual flights as opposed to test hovering in my very small back yard).

The machine is bone stock, except for the KBDD Pro Tail Blades. Servos are JR 285MG"s for cyclic and a JR3500G on the tail. ESC is a Castle Ice 50. A CC 10 amp BEC is supplying 6 volts to the cyclic servos with a WR Step-Down for the rudder servo. The BEC is supplying 5 amps to the on board electronics (on 6S).

On the first flight I punched it from the hover to check for climb performance and then descended and repeated the exercise inverted. I found excellent power and symmetrical climbing performance in both attitudes.

Flipping and rolling performance was very quick and sharp (and well harmonized). The stock tail was superb (very quick and very precise). I became comfortable with it very quickly, doing slow hurricanes and backwards, outside loops on the first flight.

Damping from the CF blade grips is quite good, as the machine locks in and finds center very easily in the hover.

The machine flies very similarly to my Atom, but somewhat quicker.

I will probably increase the collective throw by about 1/2 degree at each end, other than that, I don't think I will change any other adjustments.

The only thing I would have changed this morning, if I had the ability to do so, would have been to have brought the sun out. It was quite dark at Whittier, and when I got the ship up high it became a silhouette to my old eyebals.

No issues so far. I will post back as I get more flight time on it.
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02-22-2013 01:16 PM  5 years agoPost 12
Richardmid1

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YGE 40 would be what ide use on 6s or Koby 40 if you have the money.

60% of the time, it works every time!

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02-23-2013 03:56 PM  5 years agoPost 13
johnnyo7

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I got the Koby 40. Are you guys running a seperate BEC or a seperate 2s pack to eliminate the bec all together?

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02-23-2013 03:59 PM  5 years agoPost 14
frito169

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Due to cg issues I added 2s lipo.

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02-23-2013 04:53 PM  5 years agoPost 15
Richardmid1

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No need for a seperate BEC with a decent ESC.

60% of the time, it works every time!

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03-22-2013 11:33 AM  5 years agoPost 16
Rob43

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My Koby 40 handled the servos just fine. It wasn't very tolerant of motors, however. I had two motors from the start...stock Compass Warp motor and MSH 1300 kV motor. The MSH motor would not run beyond around 1/2 throttle...causing a fault at the Koby. Worse, the first Koby smoked! I received a replacement, and it too faulted with a blinking LED light at about the same point, so I shut it down. It tested fine with the Compass motor. Another Koby user had his ESC fail after a few flights with the Compass motor. So, I changed out to the YGE. Many are using the Castle 50 Lite and YGE without any problems. There seems to be an issue for the Koby and higher pole count motors. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to live up to the Jive/Jazz reputation for being self-protective.

Rob

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03-22-2013 12:45 PM  5 years agoPost 17
frito169

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First I would like to say I think you made a good second choice with the YGE I think they're better than the kontronix in every way in my experience. I don't know that you can say it's bad with the higher pole count motor because the compass motor has only 8 poles. There are however other issues with the compass motor such as the bad cans and I've had issues where it runs good one day and the next day it doesn't. This is with no setting changes whatsoever no changes in the atmosphere etc. Hopefully replacement can will help sort out some of these issues. If not I would like to give the turnigy motor a try even though it's a higher KV and I would probably force me to look for a 14 or 15 tooth timing pulley.

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03-26-2013 06:28 PM  5 years agoPost 18
Rob43

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You're right, Frito. I probably should not have said the Koby isn't right for higher pole count motors. Hasn't been as capable as the YGE or Castle ESC's with motors I've tried. I don't know why. I'd be tempted to send Kontronik my new Koby and MSH 1300 motor to see what they say.

Rob

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