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01-30-2013 06:12 PM  5 years agoPost 21
heliocolorado

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I use the FMA multi charger on 4s and down...it balances every charge. One of the first to do so I believe. Customer service can be alittle tuff sometimes....but a Lipo going bad can be a scarey and costly thing.

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01-30-2013 06:14 PM  5 years agoPost 22
wrongler

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I have never charged without balancing that I recall!

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01-30-2013 06:18 PM  5 years agoPost 23
OLROY

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My TP820 don't think you have an option to charge without balance it will alarm...now on my Pl8 you do but I've have always balanced every pack as well

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01-30-2013 06:20 PM  5 years agoPost 24
McKrackin

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Ive been parallel charging two 6S 5000mAh packs and two 6S 3300mAh packs well over a year and all cells on all four packs were balanced PERFECT (4.20V per cell)<----Thats checking each cell with a multi-meter and checking each pack with my iCharger...HUNDREDS of cycles with perfect balanced packs..
Awesome...Good for you!

By the way...bone up on your reading comprehension and try again.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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01-30-2013 06:37 PM  5 years agoPost 25
MrMel

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Parallel charging can very well be worse on balance, as if the cell you connect has different IR and you apply lot's current input, the lower IR cell will raise very quickly while the higher IR cell will not.

Been hesitant to parallel charge my older packs because of this as I found some serious over-charge a few times, so it's not all good and dandy to hook up all those packs together.

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01-30-2013 06:40 PM  5 years agoPost 26
bart2546

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Long story short: Yes I balance charge every time. Whether one or multiple packs in parallel.

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01-30-2013 06:44 PM  5 years agoPost 27
BladeStrikes

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McKrackin
Awesome...Good for you!

By the way...bone up on your reading comprehension and try again.

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01-30-2013 06:49 PM  5 years agoPost 28
Stephen Born

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Parallel charging can very well be worse on balance, as if the cell you connect has different IR and you apply lot's current input, the lower IR cell will raise very quickly while the higher IR cell will not.
MrMel

So you do not recommend parallel charging for proper balance?

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01-30-2013 07:09 PM  5 years agoPost 29
BladeStrikes

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As long as you parallel charge lipos that you bought new for a 12S heli,you shouldn't have issues.

If you use one of your 12S packs in another heli (6S),you'll run into issues..
Thats why I try telling people to not use 12S packs in a 6S heli,keep them as a set..That way the IR and health stays the same.
I wouldn't parallel charge 12S packs that I use in 6S setups and same with packs for 6S and 3S setup's..

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01-30-2013 07:12 PM  5 years agoPost 30
Stephen Born

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Thanks Lon.

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01-30-2013 07:15 PM  5 years agoPost 31
Ronald Thomas

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Do you balance every charge?
Yup

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01-30-2013 07:18 PM  5 years agoPost 32
McKrackin

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I like a good back peddle

I literally never use the word literally right.

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01-30-2013 07:19 PM  5 years agoPost 33
BladeStrikes

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Just being honest about my experience..Ive done lipo updates and always checked voltage per cell around 50 cycles..After 500 cycles on my 3300mAh 12S packs and 300+ cycles on my 5000mAh packs <---- Everything was the exact same for the sets,even IR..People swapping packs in different helis will have issues because the lipos aren't being used the same way..

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01-30-2013 07:22 PM  5 years agoPost 34
McKrackin

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Lon...You never said anything about sets and most people are balance charging more than two packs at a time so internal resistance is all over the place.

Might be three different sets of two or even six or eight single packs from a heli that uses just one pack.

So...which is it?
You said it's not possible to get uneven charges from parallel charging.

Yes or no?
It's a simple question...Possible or not?

I literally never use the word literally right.

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01-30-2013 07:23 PM  5 years agoPost 35
Ronald Thomas

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Lon and MrMel siad two different things Ernie. MrMel said IF the IR of the two packs are different, you can end up with the Lower IR pack changing whereas the higher IR pack will stay the same
Lon said that he has had success in parallel charging multiple capacity packs (and so have I). He also said as long as you keep them a pair, they should be fine....I agree with both of them.......Ron

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01-30-2013 07:23 PM  5 years agoPost 36
BladeStrikes

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McKrackin
I like a good back peddle
Not back peddling,you won't have issues with matched sets..
unlike you,im giving advice on something I own so go sling mud somewhere else..

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01-30-2013 07:25 PM  5 years agoPost 37
Ronald Thomas

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Ernie said: "Lon...You never said anything about sets"
Sorry but from personal experience,your wrong..
Ive been parallel charging two 6S 5000mAh packs and two 6S 3300mAh packs well over a year and all cells on all four packs were balanced PERFECT (4.20V per cell)<----Thats checking each cell with a multi-meter and checking each pack with my iCharger...HUNDREDS of cycles with perfect balanced packs..
If you use one of your 12S packs in another heli (6S),you'll run into issues..
Thats why I try telling people to not use 12S packs in a 6S heli,keep them as a set..That way the IR and health stays the same.
Yes he did

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01-30-2013 07:25 PM  5 years agoPost 38
McKrackin

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So answer the question....Is it possible to get uneven charges with parallel charging.

I said it's possible but unlikely...You said I'm wrong.

Which is it?

I literally never use the word literally right.

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01-30-2013 07:27 PM  5 years agoPost 39
McKrackin

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Yes he did back peddle that statement in there...Didn't he

I literally never use the word literally right.

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01-30-2013 07:28 PM  5 years agoPost 40
Ronald Thomas

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No he didn't, I think you are missing what was said

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