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01-30-2013 03:55 AM  5 years agoPost 21
Wynn1427

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Good luck shipping anything then, they all work that way.
Exactly...do not insure those packages that you wish cover out of your pocket. Ship 100 with insurance and the first one without and it goes missing (murphy's law).

Take a look at this article if you want to get your blood boiling.

When you find a shipper you can trust let us all know.

Wynn

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01-30-2013 05:50 AM  5 years agoPost 22
Qrrambero

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A package with a deliver confirmation showed as deliver, but I did not receive it. Ready Heli was so nice that sent me the package again at no charge. " Very Nice Service"

Any way the old package was delivered one month later and in it was written wrong address. Of course I sent it back to Ready Heli.

I like to use the Priority Service a lot because it takes 2-3 days from Florida or Mass. to SFCO, CA.

Ae

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01-30-2013 06:16 AM  5 years agoPost 23
OLROY

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UPS all the way

My Post Lady has a butt on her to but it's in the front...lmao

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01-30-2013 06:03 PM  5 years agoPost 24
bbaxter

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Interesting.

The USPS has ALWAYS required you to purchase insurance if an item got lost or damaged in transit. If you didn't buy insurance, you didn't get any recovery of your loss if something happened. The incident is nothing new, just the expectations of the person in the original post.

They have never been responsible for coverage of loss or damage if you didn't pay for the insurance. This hasn't changed in decades.

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01-30-2013 06:46 PM  5 years agoPost 25
ticedoff8

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Buying insurance for a USPS package adds about $1 - maybe $2.

Anyone that stops using USPS because they are too cheap to pay an extra $2 for insurance has other problems.
Especially if they start to bitch and moan about the USPS losing the package without buying insurance.

USPS Priority Mail Flat rate is $5 (envelope or small box) plus insurance.
I use the Flat Rate envelope to ship motors and gyros that have their own small boxes (last was a Futaba GY-701 in its own box wrapped in the Priority Flat Rate envelope).

You think UPS or FedEx is any better?
If you can afford $15 for a UPS shipment (insured), then buy the insurance on the USPS and stop complaining.

This is like using PayPal to send money as a "Gift" rather than "Payment for Service".
If you send money as a "Gift" and get screwed, would you complain that PayPal isn't helping you recover the money? If so, then you don't have a complete understanding of how the business world works.

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01-30-2013 07:52 PM  5 years agoPost 26
FireNWater

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They toss a certain percentage of uninsured packages in the trash to keep people buying insurance. If insurance revenues go down, then then "toss percentage" goes up.
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On the up side, with social media so widespread they don't need to dispose of as many packages since word of just one "lost package" spreads farther.
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Buy Cheap, Buy Twice . . .

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01-31-2013 02:14 AM  5 years agoPost 27
Einzelganger

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Never have had any problems with USPS.
Or UPS.
None.
Guess I'm just lucky.
Wayne

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01-31-2013 04:18 AM  5 years agoPost 28
SYMAWD

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I've shipped well over 200 things with USPS in about a year. No losses or damages. Every package took 1-3 days except for maybe 5 that took a week. Not to mention they are usually the cheapest.

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01-31-2013 04:24 AM  5 years agoPost 29
Dr.Ben

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Maybe I am just lucky, but I have used Priority Mail since its inception (decade or more?)and never had an issue.

I know of no other service that will send a small package from coast to coast in 3 days or less for less than $6. And supply all shipping materials @ no cost.

Ben Minor

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01-31-2013 01:13 PM  5 years agoPost 30
rpat

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Were I live UPS takes a week to get anything to me. I am glad that Heli Proz has started using USPS.

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01-31-2013 01:17 PM  5 years agoPost 31
Philfly

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I too was among the USPS Priority flat rate believers;
I would even use the automated kiosk after hours with the benefit of no lines to stand in. But when you factor in the additional insurance cost, is it really cheaper???

This post was a warning to all whom might have been under the false belief! The truth of the matter is: A USPS Priority uninsured package, in the possession of the US postal service, could possibly be lost or misplaced, with no liability due to the customer ?????

If the USPS makes a mistake, I pay, unless I was to add the additional cost insurance. Even then it could take up to 180 days to be reimbursed.

If someone here on RR would sell something and use the same business tactics as the USPS currently does, we would have many posts about a dishonest member trying to rip someone off!!! This is my posting point

How does this work in the business world we all compete in??? It is a win-win scenario for them. (At least until the system goes under and private sector takes over)

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01-31-2013 03:22 PM  5 years agoPost 32
fastflyer20

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You need to understand the rules of each carrier and then comply. If you ship a heli worth $500 with UPS and don't add any additional insurance, you get $100, no more if it is lost or damaged. The minimum shipping fee for UPS is around $10.

I ship small packages USPS insured and large packages UPS insured.

Over the years, I have had more screw ups with UPS than any other carrier. If they loose or break something that can't easily be duplicated, insured or not, you are still out of luck.

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01-31-2013 03:40 PM  5 years agoPost 33
mbarhsi

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Insurance is BS and a scam on ANY shipping. How about they just do their g-damned JOBS correctly in the first place so insurance wouldn't be needed? Just deliver my freakin' packages and don't break them! Shouldn't be too hard.

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01-31-2013 03:53 PM  5 years agoPost 34
ticedoff8

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Insurance is BS and a scam on ANY shipping. How about they just do their g-damned JOBS correctly in the first place so insurance wouldn't be needed? Just deliver my freakin' packages and don't break them! Shouldn't be too hard.
Unless the train crashes.
Or the plane burns on the ground.
Or the truck gets hit by a tornado / ice storm / hurricane.
Insurance covers the shipper and the customer - and it is cheap.
Sh!t happens - insurance covers it.
They toss a certain percentage of uninsured packages in the trash to keep people buying insurance. If insurance revenues go down, then then "toss percentage" goes up.
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On the up side, with social media so widespread they don't need to dispose of as many packages since word of just one "lost package" spreads farther.
Are you kidding?
If you insure it, and they lose it, they pay you.
How does that put money in their pockets?

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01-31-2013 04:07 PM  5 years agoPost 35
McKrackin

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Lucasville,Ohio

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Are you kidding?
If you insure it, and they lose it, they pay you.
How does that put money in their pockets?
You don't understand what he said.

They toss UN-insured packages.
This pushes customers to buy insurance which by and large is never used or never honored.
THAT puts money in their pocket.

By no means am I agreeing that this happens...Only repeating it.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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01-31-2013 04:25 PM  5 years agoPost 36
Ace Dude

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I've always had great luck with the USPS. I love Priority Mail for small light packages.

  

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01-31-2013 04:39 PM  5 years agoPost 37
Stephen Born

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I use USPS, PP, and insurance.

I have yet to have any issues with any of the above.

@ Ernie,

If my memory serves me, didn't you have an issue with a delivery of fuel? Did this get resolved?

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01-31-2013 06:30 PM  5 years agoPost 38
mbarhsi

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Unless the train crashes.
Or the plane burns on the ground.
Or the truck gets hit by a tornado / ice storm / hurricane.
Insurance covers the shipper and the customer - and it is cheap.
Sh!t happens - insurance covers it.
Tough titties... So-called "insurance" should be them DOING THEIR JOB and if something happens along the way? They cover it in the course of doing business. That way everyone is "covered".

And, please... How often does a train crash, plane crash, etc? Pretty much NEVER. Or, it's so rare that they should just cover it anyway. Virtually all of the damage/losses occur from their retarded monkey handling or "sticky fingers" during shipping, which is entirely preventable and not some "act of God".

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01-31-2013 06:34 PM  5 years agoPost 39
mbarhsi

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They toss UN-insured packages.
This pushes customers to buy insurance which by and large is never used or never honored.
THAT puts money in their pocket.

By no means am I agreeing that this happens...Only repeating it.
I've heard this same garbage before, too. Not surprising they do this, really...

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01-31-2013 09:23 PM  5 years agoPost 40
Jared J

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They always have some sort of clause to prevent them from paying or at least paying the full amount.

I do wish they would go bankrupt already, maybe they could use less carriers and deliver more real mail and less junk and political crap. Got my mail today... one bill, junk from Firestone, solitation from Geico and a wad of restaurant coupons. What a waste.

I'm sure a private company could do much better.

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