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01-30-2013 01:52 AM  5 years agoPost 21
michael88997

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Is that a video of the g30 also?

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01-30-2013 01:56 AM  5 years agoPost 22
James Kovach

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Yes

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01-30-2013 01:59 AM  5 years agoPost 23
Ravenhyper50

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That video is not of that engine.
Why would century falsely show a video of an engine that's not the one on the page they are trying to sell???

If this is true? Century helicopter is now looking really shady!

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01-30-2013 02:05 AM  5 years agoPost 24
michael88997

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Ya why would they have a different Heli and motor linked on that page?

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01-30-2013 02:19 AM  5 years agoPost 25
James Kovach

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Dunno. Not my company or business. Just here to help.

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01-30-2013 02:20 AM  5 years agoPost 26
michael88997

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Ok so in today's market, what combo of 600 class Heli and gas motor has the most power?

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01-30-2013 02:32 AM  5 years agoPost 27
James Kovach

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Why the focus on 600. In reality... The cost to build a 600 and 700 gasser are nearly the same.

You question is loaded as it is subjective. It is going to be more a preference.

The best performing Heli is not always the one with the most power output. It also depends on how you intend to fly it. What is the best for one person will be the worst for the next.

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01-30-2013 02:36 AM  5 years agoPost 28
michael88997

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I prefer a 600 for crash cost, they typically handle them better...

Well I'm basically asking what is the most powerful motor they make that fits into a 600 and what frame does it fit, there isn't many videos to compare

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01-30-2013 02:37 AM  5 years agoPost 29
heliocolorado

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I have 3 G20's really a great machine.

DK

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01-30-2013 02:49 AM  5 years agoPost 30
James Kovach

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And I am telling you that there is no one that can give you that answer as there is no data to show which engine is the most powerful.

Carey outlined your options in one of his posts.

The only definite statement that can possibly be made is a modded engine will perform better than a stock engine. Then what is left is to choose an airframe that suits your desires. Lightest...cost...availability...etc.

I never understood the crash cost argument when comparing 600s to 700s. Crashes are too dynamic and parts costs are nearly identical. A 10% difference at most in some models. But nearly the same in others. Even blade costs are not all that different.

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01-30-2013 02:54 AM  5 years agoPost 31
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My personal experience with the Radikal G20 I own is that they do not survive crashes very well and crashes can easily cost more than the $199 price tag for a new flybar kit. Also, I discovered that there was a long path of upgrades needed to be on par with even an average run of mill electric/nitro 600 class bird. The upgrades really do add up, and the stresses of putting a gasoline engine in a small airframe can be significant compared to a nitro/electric power plant.

Common and highly recommended upgrades (just a sample list):

Fan
Hub
Metal Swash
FBL Head
Linkages
Strong Starter package
Metal tail belt pulley
Gearing
Air Filter
Carb Spacer

There are some 700 class options that really are not that much more expensive if you account for the added $$ in upgrades.

Enjoy things that money can buy IF you don't lose the things money can't buy.

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01-30-2013 03:01 AM  5 years agoPost 32
michael88997

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The problem with the 700 is the motor is 650 alone, the kit is 1k.. Still have blades pipe and all electronics...

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01-30-2013 03:01 AM  5 years agoPost 33
James Kovach

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Everybody's experiences are different. I flew stock G20s for almost 2 years with no issues. They had various modified engines in them as well. There are a number of others flying stock machines to this day with no issues. Just look at the thread in the Century forum titles "G20 love"

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01-30-2013 03:02 AM  5 years agoPost 34
rbort

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Here is one option
Well I'm basically asking what is the most powerful motor they make that fits into a 600

Watch at YouTube

Made 150 to 170 rpms more on full power compared to the stock G20 motor.

Old post but you can see it in a hover and gage how smooth the motor is.

-=>Raja.

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01-30-2013 03:06 AM  5 years agoPost 35
rbort

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How do you figure?
The problem with the 700 is the motor is 650 alone, the kit is 1k.. Still have blades pipe and all electronics...
A stock 240 motor is like $240 or so. A modified 270 or 290 motor is around $500. Where do you get $650?

Some kits are 1K, some are less. Depends on what you get.

Blades you're going to spend like $10 to $20 more for 700 vs 600, pipe is probably the same price and so is the electronics, same price. And hate to say it, but a modified motor for a 600 or 700 is also very similar in price.

Overall you spend a little extra for the kit, and you end up with a bigger nicer heli that can still fit in your car.

Don't worry about crash cost, its not something worth worrying about, in other words, not going to be THAT much different.

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01-30-2013 03:08 AM  5 years agoPost 36
James Kovach

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All I can say is get the best you can afford.

Modified engines will be better performers than stock.

Then get an airframe that is in your budget. That is going to partially depend on the engine you choose.

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01-30-2013 03:12 AM  5 years agoPost 37
michael88997

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I was looking at this motor

http://www.centuryheli.com/products...html?pageid=145

Isn't that the one in the video?

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01-30-2013 03:17 AM  5 years agoPost 38
James Kovach

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Yes.

But you need to understand, that performance level is a combination of the engine AND the Heli it is in. That engine will not yield the same performance in another helicopter.

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01-30-2013 03:22 AM  5 years agoPost 39
Tyler

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If crashing often is in your plan, then perhaps a gasser is not the way to go. My personal experience is that gassers damage more when crashed. Others will certainly debate that experience and opinion.

However, if you are a diligent pilot that is not reckless then Raja makes a good point; don't over evaluate crash cost comparisons.

Also, an expensive carbon frame set that is very rigid without extensive cnc aluminum internal frame structuring may survive crashes much better than G-10 plates that are wrapped around aluminum parts that tweak and bend easily. Buying many smaller G-10 or carbon frame pieces PLUS their needed cnc backbone structures gets expensive in a hurry compared to single frame designs. Don't forget that the more bent metal there is, the more bearings will need to be replaced.

Enjoy things that money can buy IF you don't lose the things money can't buy.

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01-30-2013 12:33 PM  5 years agoPost 40
michael88997

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Well that motor is only sold with the radikal g30 v2 but that is the combo in that before video correct?

I don't plan to crash often but having a very expensive bill tends to make me fly softer

I'm just comparing this to buying a nx4 or gasser/nitro car and seeing which is my best option
And what I would enjoy the most

I already have a very nice flying Heli but I think having a Heli with a engine would be nice for me, but the cars are a cheaper way to get a motor

I also forgot to ask, what is the average flight time for flying 3d on a 90 gasser?

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