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01-10-2013 11:42 PM  7 years ago
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Solmanbandit

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Using Ikon/3GX with 9303
I figure that I should send a notice out to those who may be aware of a potential problem. If you are using the JR 9303 radio, there is a very high chance of it not working or failing. The 9303 does not have a high resolution and the 3GX and Ikon fbl systems require the higher resolution. I previously tried the 3GX and would get intermittent failures. With the Ikon, it would not work at all. I just bought a 9503 and it works just fine with the Ikon fbl system. If you have the 9303, Beastx is completely compatible with the 9303.

FBL units compatible with:

9303 - Tarot, CopterX, Beastx

Not compatible with(or potential problems):

9303 - 3GX, Ikon
Trex 700E / Trex 500 ESP - Ikon/ HD 500 - Ikon 2/ Goblin 500 Ikon 2
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01-11-2013 12:43 AM  7 years ago
honda411

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Sucks that the free unit you got can't work. I think you should upgrade to a futaba radioHeliDirect Field Rep, Synergy N7 w/ OS 105, Torq Servos, Cyclone/ Rail blades
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01-11-2013 01:26 AM  7 years ago
Solmanbandit

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It works just fine with my new 9503. Thanks, but no issues here.Trex 700E / Trex 500 ESP - Ikon/ HD 500 - Ikon 2/ Goblin 500 Ikon 2
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01-11-2013 01:48 AM  7 years ago
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You need to recheck your facts. There are no issues with the X9303 and 3GX that I know about.

What exactly do you mean about "low resolution". The X9303 is capable of 2048 resolution just like the 9503.

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01-11-2013 02:07 AM  7 years ago
mattox

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I guess I can't use my vbar either with my 9303 but it does anyway I know a friend has no issues with the ikon and 9303. It's all knowing how to set it up.

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01-11-2013 03:06 AM  7 years ago
dkshema

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Don't tell the six 3GX systems I have running with my X9303 that they aren't working. I'm having way too much fun with them.

Whatever problems you were having with your 9303 and 3Gx, it had nothing to do with the radio. Perhaps you might want to explain what went wrong in your world, because there are too many people NOT having your problem.

Also, I have demonstrated that even an older X9303 72MHz radio, using the DSM9 Spektrum Air Module operates just fine with the 3GX and DSM2 satellites.

Your information may be offered in the sense of being "help", but it is just absolutely incorrect, wrong, and needs to be retracted.
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01-11-2013 03:35 AM  7 years ago
honda411

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i also dont think resolution has anything to do with the unit. But i may be wrong.
Any heli radio should work with any fbl controller that is programmable in the radio.
Hey you could always give me your ikon unit! Id love it on my 450
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01-11-2013 04:02 AM  7 years ago
Solmanbandit

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If you all were to read the first paragraph, I said potential problem. When I tried it with the 3GX, sometimes it would work and then the next time, the swash would be whacked when initiating. With the Ikon, the servos would not move at all. I have also talked to Align a few months ago and he was the one who told me about the resolution issue. I personally scrapped the 3GX because I didn't trust it. When I got my ikon, the servos would not move at all. As soon as I bind it to my 9503, it worked perfect and setup was smooth. If they are working for you, then great. So either my problem is a fluke, or could be an underlying issue. So thanks for the feedback.
Hey you could always give me your ikon unit! Id love it on my 450
You could always give me $250 and then take it. BTW, setting up the Ikon is super easy.
It's all knowing how to set it up.
It is apparent that you didn't read the post. As I said, it would not work at all. No servos would move, as in absolutely nothing! Could not even begin to set up.
Your information may be offered in the sense of being "help", but it is just absolutely incorrect, wrong, and needs to be retracted.
As I said, potential problem, so sorry, no retraction.
Trex 700E / Trex 500 ESP - Ikon/ HD 500 - Ikon 2/ Goblin 500 Ikon 2
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01-11-2013 04:03 AM  7 years ago
Solmanbandit

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If you all were to read the first paragraph, I said potential problem. When I tried it with the 3GX, sometimes it would work and then the next time, the swash would be whacked when initiating. With the Ikon, the servos would not move at all. I have also talked to Align a few months ago and he was the one who told me about the resolution issue. I personally scrapped the 3GX because I didn't trust it. When I got my ikon, the servos would not move at all. As soon as I bind it to my 9503, it worked perfect and setup was smooth. If they are working for you, then great. So either my problem is a fluke, or could be an underlying issue. So thanks for the feedback.
Hey you could always give me your ikon unit! Id love it on my 450
You could always give me $250 and then take it. BTW, setting up the Ikon is super easy.
It's all knowing how to set it up.
It is apparent that you didn't read the post. As I said, it would not work at all. No servos would move, as in absolutely nothing! Could not even begin to set up.
Your information may be offered in the sense of being "help", but it is just absolutely incorrect, wrong, and needs to be retracted.
As I said, potential problem, so sorry, no retraction. What I am going to do the adult thing and get this closed because I can see this turning into a bashing instead of a discussion.
Trex 700E / Trex 500 ESP - Ikon/ HD 500 - Ikon 2/ Goblin 500 Ikon 2
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01-11-2013 04:31 AM  7 years ago
dkshema

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You do know that you have a potential problem that your transmitter battery might go dead while flying. I think people should stop using transmitter batteries, then.

EVERYTHING has a potential problem. The bottom line is that the X9303 works perfectly well with the 3GX system, and it won't vary from transmitter to transmitter.

Who at Align were you talking with? Perhaps we could convince "them" to come forth and clearly state what any problems might exist out there. There are always these nebulous reports about "someone" at the factory, or "someone" at Assurance, but frankly, "they" never actually seem to come forward to set the record straight.

What I HAVE found is that when using satellite receivers in lieu of a standard receiver such as the AR7000 with its satellite, the 3GX system is quite finicky when it comes to the quality of the electrical power delivered to the system.
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01-11-2013 05:05 AM  7 years ago
Solmanbandit

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Do I have a name? No I do not as I did not find that important. Also making the battery comment wasn't necessary, although you felt the need to make a jab for whatever reason. Either way. which module are you using on your 9303? After I sent it in for repairs this last Summer, it got changed to the newer module.Trex 700E / Trex 500 ESP - Ikon/ HD 500 - Ikon 2/ Goblin 500 Ikon 2
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01-11-2013 01:15 PM  7 years ago
jschenck

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Are you using an X9303 or an XP9303 with a module? Those are very different situations
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01-11-2013 02:22 PM  7 years ago
dkshema

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I have the native mode X9303, and an older XP9303 with the DM9 AirModule installed. The DM9 is packaged in the "new" single piece unit.

I've run extensive tests with the XP9303/DM9 module and the 3GX system. Tests and results are documented here:

https://rc.runryder.com/t714533p1/

Also, are you using a LiPo in your XP9303, or are you using the stock battery pack?

Of course the battery comment was added to drive home the point that "potential problems" exist everywhere.

Jkos has duplicated my test results, so this is not a "one-of" kind of test. It is repeatable.
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01-11-2013 02:45 PM  7 years ago
Solmanbandit

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Running a lipo battery in that radio.
Of course the battery comment was added to drive home the point that "potential problems" exist everywhere.
No problem and I was in aircraft maintenance for 21 years and know that all too well.
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