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01-10-2013 04:08 PM  7 years ago
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PC geeks/solidworks help build PC
Within a few months I will need to build two computers for work. It has been many years since I built my own machine, but I have a few under my belt. I have been a macbook pro user for three years on the personal side.

I don't know what is really needed for a smooth running solidworks pc. Will be running 2013 version of solid works.

Wish list:

Dual monitors
quiet as possible (within reason)
harddrive backup
fast
smooth application
smallest footprint possible

One machine will be in a silent home office, the other machine will be onsite at the fabrication machine in the main office. Good filtering is needed on that machine due to evironment.

Don't want this to be a stupid expensive build, but don't want any regrets.

Suggestions and links would be great to start my learning curve out properly. I plan to take my time on this because this build will be budgeted in by the company for upcoming projects.
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01-10-2013 05:11 PM  7 years ago
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If you are building a machine for SW then I would highly suggest you visit their website. They publish a hardware list. I could highly concentrate on video card, memory and CPU in that order!Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!
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01-10-2013 05:28 PM  7 years ago
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I could be wrong, but Mac can handle SW very good. If you can build a mac with SS drive and connect an extra SS external drive via Thunderbolt. You would have a very fast machine, and very reliable! Mac can handle 2 monitors.

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01-10-2013 06:42 PM  7 years ago
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01-10-2013 11:54 PM  7 years ago
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I get most of my stuff from newegg.com, I build mine complete about 2 years ago for 700 for gaming, but it has a very high power graphic, 6 core CPU, 8gb ddr3 ram, ssd hard drive... I wouldn't buy a custom build cause they charge soo much for building them, I would say buy the parts and build yourself, if you can build a Heli you can build a computer... If you want to go that route I can give you some suggestions on what to buy, I have build quite a few computers
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01-11-2013 12:55 AM  7 years ago
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I can and will build the computers, as I have done a few in the past. Kinda fun, actually.

Appears the priority order is certainly in the CPU, then video card, and finally ram.

If a mother board has four slots for ram, will it perform faster with four smaller sticks of ram compared to only using two larger sticks of ram and leaving two slots open? It would make sense to me that data can pass through faster with each slot in use, even if each stick of memory happens to be smaller per unit. The overall RAM would be the same...

2x 8 stick and leave two slots empty

or

4x 4 sticks and use all four slots

Also, I have been instructed to consider running three monitors instead of two.
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01-11-2013 01:26 AM  7 years ago
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Solidworks isn't terribly demanding. I run the 2012 version on my old laptop and it does fine with an old i7 @ 2.0ghz and 4gb of RAM. Your RAM should come before your graphics card unless you're gaming, but 8gb of RAM will be plenty.

You can build two very fast machines for around $600 each. The one for the shop will need filters/dust covers on all of the intake fans, and you'll need to open it up and vacuum it out more often probably.
If a mother board has four slots for ram, will it perform faster with four smaller sticks of ram compared to only using two larger sticks of ram and leaving two slots open? It would make sense to me that data can pass through faster with each slot in use, even if each stick of memory happens to be smaller per unit. The overall RAM would be the same...
2x 8 stick and leave two slots empty
or
4x 4 sticks and use all four slots
this doesn't matter. Keep it simple and get two 4gb sticks for each machine. They sell them in packages.
You DO NOT NEED an SSD. I have one, but I play latest gen games. The failure rate is considerably higher than regular plate HDDs and they're more expensive.
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01-11-2013 01:28 AM  7 years ago
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having more sticks for most mobo's will run slightly faster but if you get ddr3 at 1600mhz you wont tell a difference

as far as the monitors most good graphics cards can do several, mine can run 5 monitors... i personally like amd because its a little over 100 bucks for a 6 or 8 core processor and intel is around 600-700ish.. i would also recommend a enclosed water cooling system for the cpu because it will make it run a lot cooler and quieter
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01-11-2013 01:41 AM  7 years ago
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The intel i5 3750k is $200, and can be easily overclocked to well over 4ghz. This is the CPU I would go with. AMD is okay, I hear they're getting better, so they would probably work fine too.
i would also recommend a enclosed water cooling system for the cpu because it will make it run a lot cooler and quieter
I would strongly disagree with this for a few reasons. Aftermarket air coolers (~$30) have gotten so advanced that they can bring the CPU temps down to within a few degrees of their LC counterparts ($80-200). he is not gaming, I highly doubt that he will see CPU temps over 45C running SW (with the intel CPU), thus the fan speeds, assuming they were setup properly in the BIOS of the mobo, would most likely hover around 20-30%. Plenty quiet, for me at least.
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01-11-2013 03:51 AM  7 years ago
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Computers are like helicopters, everybody has their reasons for what they like, personally I love amd over intel and I would rather spend 20 bucks less and get a amd 4.2ghz 8 core CPU... It also depends on how much the computer will be pushed, water cooling will always be quieter and cooler, and my corsair system was 50 bucks, but my reason I like it the most is all the heat goes out back instead of pushed down onto your mobo
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01-11-2013 04:12 AM  7 years ago
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Btw the amd beats the intel CPU by almost 2000 points on a benchmark, way faster.

As for the environment they make cases with filters on the fans.

Do you know if your programs are very intensive in one area?
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01-11-2013 02:56 PM  7 years ago
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could be wrong, but Mac can handle SW very good. If you can build a mac with SS drive and connect an extra SS external drive via Thunderbolt. You would have a very fast machine, and very reliable! Mac can handle 2 monitors.
The only way you'll get SW on a Mac is via a windows emulator or by dual booting. The software is not Mac compatible.

I run SW daily for work and I can tell you that a video card and RAM are the two most important pieces of gear you are going to need to spend money on. If you're doing modling with basic shapes then lower-midgrade hardware will work. If you are doing modeling with complex surfaces or generating complex and detailed manufacturing drawings then you are most definitely going to need a higher end hardware set. Working with assemblies can tax your hardware as well.

I use an Nvidia Quadro FX 4500 for my video card with 4gb of ram. My video card is still good and viable but my ram needs to be upgraded. My CPU is a mid-grade Intel Xeon dual core running at 2.0 GHz.

The number one piece of advice that you absolutely must follow is to consult with the Configuring a Computer for Solidworks on their forums.
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