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01-09-2013 09:32 PM  7 years ago
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TonyTypeS

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Company issued cell phone laws
Anyone here familiar with company issued cell phone? If an employee is going to be spying on what you do on your phone do they have to mention this policy in their contract? I know that company phones is company property so technically they can do what ever they want since it belongs to them right?

Well I was issued a company phone, but the bosses told me it was like a perk so I no longer have to pay for my personal phone. They said to use it like a personal phone. Well what do you know they were spying on me the whole time. I feel so upset because I just quit my job and I heard from my ex-coworkers that the boss went through all my info. I guess they do whatever it takes to find out where my next job is. So I bet they can see all my personal texts, calls, emails, pics, and data. I find this kinda wrong for an employer to be so sneaky
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01-09-2013 09:43 PM  7 years ago
ppridday

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Same as any email that goes thru their server I think Tony. THey have the right to look at those too. Crazy but true I'm pretty sure.

You weren't sexting with the girlfriend were ya?

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01-09-2013 09:57 PM  7 years ago
TonyTypeS

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Lol Paul. I saved that kinda stuff for my personal phone
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01-09-2013 09:59 PM  7 years ago
buzzsaw

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Tony,the heck with them!You gotta come back to the Big Easy and hang with the NOMAC crew!
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01-10-2013 12:51 AM  7 years ago
TonyTypeS

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I'll try to make it back sometime before summer. Last time I was down I didn't have time to stop by the field to say hi
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01-10-2013 12:57 AM  7 years ago
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This is why if I was ever issued a company phone I would keep my personal phone and never do anything but company business on the company phone. This being said, what sort of spying did they do?
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01-10-2013 02:31 PM  7 years ago
BJames111

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It was THEIR phone. They had a right to every bit of information that phone processed.

Just like a work computer.

It is extremely unethical on the employees part to seek out different employment while using a company phone or computer.
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01-10-2013 06:47 PM  7 years ago
Rudy

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Yep its the company phone, treat it like the company phone and computer on your desk at work.

I left a project because they did not provide a computer for me to use. While I have no problem with that, the problem I had was they wanting to install software on MY laptop that would allow them to view every thing on MY personal laptop. **** OFF was the term I used as I walked out the door.
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01-11-2013 09:42 PM  7 years ago
Noobyflyer

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Think that's bad
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01-11-2013 09:51 PM  7 years ago
ppridday

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Yup... One guy who was working on a project I was on was badmouthing the company he worked for on his Facebook page. He wasn't terminated but he sure didn't get called back to work unless they were in desperate need.

Facebook = diarrhea of the mind...

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01-11-2013 10:11 PM  7 years ago
ticedoff8

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California just passed a law that prohibits an employer from asking for you Facebook or LinkedIn passwords.

It is becoming common for prospective employers to ask for your passwords and then actually log in and look around your Facebook account - looking for the "hidden gems" that will keep you from getting hired.
Of course, you don't HAVE to give them the passwords - and at the point, the interview is over.

But, I guess the Republicans / Conservatives think this should be perfectly okay. And, if you are a typical Republican / Conservative, you wouldn't have a problem with it either.

If you have any company issued property, they have the right to track you - GPS, cell records, recording your phone calls on teh company phone system, listening to your voice mails, keystroke loggers on the company PC, text messages, Web cache - you name it.

If you don't like it, you do have a choice,
Quit.
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01-11-2013 11:42 PM  7 years ago
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It is becoming common for prospective employers to ask for your passwords and then actually log in and look around your Facebook account
Seriously? I mean, SERIOUSLY?!? There are people out there that would actually give up passwords to their personal accounts?

I don't have a Facebook account (or any other worthless "social media" account), but there is no company that is going to get the password to ANY personal account of mine. Period. Maybe being at the same job for over 25 years is showing that I'm out of touch with today's common employment practices, but that's just not going to happen.

And you say if you don't give them the passwords, the interview is over? You are damned right it's over! As soon as I get done laughing in their faces, I'm out the door!

By the way, not to turn this into a political thread (wrong forum), I don't consider myself to be a Liberal by any stretch of the imagination.

On the other hand, any information they can get online without the password is fair game. If you're stupid enough to broadcast something on the Internet for anybody to read, you have no right to complain when someone reads it and responds negatively.

Back OT: company-issued electronics. Their property. They can do whatever they want with it.

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01-12-2013 01:07 AM  7 years ago
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As far as Facebook is concerned....I did not sign up for Facebook until a few months ago....the only reason I did was to keep in contact with family....

I was also paranoid about what the above posters were referencing SO when I generated my FB account I fabricated a name and all of my profile information. My profile picture is off of a no name character on a TV show....I post no pictures that can tie me to me.....nothing personal goes on there....and the settings are adjusted to only my "friends" BUT I can stay in contact with my out of state family....when I want to make contact with someone I send them a private message telling them who I am....it seems to work well.
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01-12-2013 04:17 AM  7 years ago
ticedoff8

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My guess: RunRyder is not "Worthless Social Media" right? Lol
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01-12-2013 08:38 AM  7 years ago
TonyTypeS

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Yea you guys are right a company has all rights to do what ever they want with their property.
I just find some things wrong when my employer specifically said cancel my own personal phone and use the issued phone instead as my new personal phone to save money. That's what bothers me the most. But I already knew they can do what ever they want and can easily track and do anything on the phone. That's why I kept my own personal phone for this reason. I never sought another job using the company phone nor did I do it during work hours. All this was done off work hours on the weekends with my own phone. I kept the company phone for calling/texting/emailing the bosses, co-workers, and customers with problems. They must have read through tons of message that I texted which I only mentioned once. Instead of spying on their employee they could have just easily asked. I felt this would have been the best thing they could have done. It's not like I stole anything or did anything bad for giving them my 2 weeks notice. Shoot I even stayed back longer just to finish up a project. Oh well what's done is done.

Man Facebook can bite you in the butt with some places. It's crazy how some places ask for all your info just to do a back ground check. Even a little dumb post can loose you a job. It's goo that California passed a law that employers can't ask for that info anymore. Well I guess if you apply somewhere that is related to some high gov position than I can see that being ok That's why a lot of people do not have facebook.
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01-12-2013 12:24 PM  7 years ago
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But, I guess the Republicans / Conservatives think this should be perfectly okay. And, if you are a typical Republican / Conservative, you wouldn't have a problem with it either.
You're a stone cold idiot.
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01-12-2013 06:40 PM  7 years ago
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I feel so upset because I just quit my job
What was your job?
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01-12-2013 07:22 PM  7 years ago
BDIS

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I think everyone is blowing this out of proportion. I work in IT. I am the communications architect for my company which means that I design, implement, and maintain the network infrastructure, email systems, mobile access, and phone systems. Any data that goes through those systems is owned by the company, whether you deem it personal or not. My company is required, by federal regulations to log, and archive this data for ten years.

Having said all of that, there are several things that have to take place in order for anyone in the company to be able to legally look at that information:
1. You must have done something to give them cause to look it up
2. I cannot look at any of the data without approval from the audit department, and there are audit logs that track who looks at what.
3. The corporate data policy must be given to the employee in written form and the employee must agree to the terms.
4. When accessing your mailbox, even for troubleshooting issues, I must be given permission by you or your boss, to open your mailbox.

So the moral of the story is, if you can't follow ethics with a business phone, then use a personal phone for that stuff.

My company will allow personal business on our devices; however, if there is cause to look at your data, and it is found that you have used the device in access of what id allowed in the corporate policy YOU agreed to, then we can either take the device from you, or fire you, depending on the severity of the violation.

It only takes a little common sense and restraint.
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