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01-20-2013 04:17 PM  6 years ago
Keygrigger

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Thanks Heli143.

Last night, I forged ahead to finish off the centre console. I learned a lot making this unit up and once the instrument panel gets in, I will be ready to make up any missing bits and pieces to complete the full system. This was hard enough but I can't imagine doing museum quality stuff. I might have had to start all over again a dozen times so my hat's off to those that do that type of work. Take care.

Don

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01-20-2013 06:11 PM  6 years ago
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I could not leave well enough alone and did some aging. I will be doing the same with the rest of the heli, especially the interior floor and working controls. I started with the TOW missile launchers and that was not too hard but I need to still finish those off and try to use panel locations on the real heli to setup wear and tear on the outside. After all, these were hard working helis, in constant use, no time for touch-up to the paint or trying to keep scratches from appearing like on some of the executive or ambulance helis. Take care.

Don

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01-21-2013 08:18 AM  6 years ago
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It still gets me how long it takes to do what appears to be a simple thing. That little box took me close to three hours to work out how to make it, what size, and how I could duplicate an electrical connection inside it. Bullets to the rescue, lol. The Weapons Officers collective was another matter as it took a very long time to get done. I had it pretty well set to go and I thought, "One more time through the manual", sigh..... I found a housing drawing for it and although I can't find any pictures of the collective of this heli, the factory unit for the "D" model will do as the bare collective stick just plopped on the spot would look really tacky. I tore it apart and proceeded to build a new enclosure but lucky me, I was able to save the two pieces that are on the front of it. I was starting to get ahead of myself as I had put the base coat on the collective but I had forgotten to break its neck and reset it. A little thinner and a few minutes with the CA and kicker and I was ready to finish it off. I went over what I used for paint and I have three different paints on that set of parts. Tamiya acrylic, Humbrol enamel, and a generic house paint. What a mess, lol. Here are the pics.

Don

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01-21-2013 10:15 PM  6 years ago
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I posted these on another forum as an example of the exterior work yet to be done. That heli will look like it has been though the war and back when done. I am working out how I will duplicate dirt and dust on the floor of the interior but I should have that worked out a bit later. These are the two launcher pods. Take care.

Don

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01-22-2013 06:12 AM  6 years ago
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More stuff done. This time with Tracing CAD and DREMEL CNC.........right. I was not impressed with a nice set of nose cones but no missile bodies!!! That I can't figure out so I fixed it this evening. Paint will happen when the Hysol dries in the morning. Take care.

Don

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01-22-2013 07:53 PM  6 years ago
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Last night, I got the missiles done to my liking and found that by accident, the true length of the TOW missile, when in ready to fire condition, is only 46" (very small differences between models) so by dumb luck, I had cut two 12" pieces in half, which is just a bit longer than a proper scale reproduction. Chalk one up for the little folk. I added some more paint detailing on the externals and did some washdowns of the internals. I had two jars of paint that were not close enough on their own to match the actual model paint. I mixed them together and the mix was now closer but no cigar. For yuks, I added some black/green paint to that mixture and sho' nuff, it was close enough to use on the exterior if needed, lol. What I really need to find is a picture of the two hatches opened and see how the missles are wired from the outside. I will take a guess if I can't locate one as I know that they are not just slipped in as the wires that guide the missle have to be attached to something. Here are the latest pics. Take care.

Don

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01-22-2013 08:34 PM  6 years ago
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Wow Don, that is thinking way out of the box! Nice work
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01-23-2013 04:00 AM  6 years ago
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Today was cyclic stick setup day. The WHOLE day. I now found out that the cyclic and collective sticks are really not 1/6th scale but actually 1/7th, which means they will be great in my AS350, sigh, and I'm not working on that one for this installation, unfortunately.......onward. I had to stretch the cyclic sticks so they matched in height (they really are hand built, each one, and are slightly different to each other in post shape) and actually met the hand approximately where it should, then tack glued each of the custom fixtures in. I fitted the two figures in to work out what position they will be fixed in. I set them up so Bruce is pointing to something below and to their left-front and used a picture on my computer as a test background. The blades arrived today so now I can screw around all day tomorrow putting them on after a balancing checkout. This is going to be one wild looking heli when done. Whew.

Don

Makes a solid hand rest

Rear screen projection with no expense spared

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01-23-2013 04:13 AM  6 years ago
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Dude that is sick!!
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01-24-2013 05:18 PM  6 years ago
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Thanks tintmaster.

I did some small work on the interior yesterday and added paint to what I had already done. I am leaving areas open as they will be where the instrument panels and pedals attach. I hope the pedals are worth holding off for as I am not above making the entire set if needed. Where is the CF rod and plastic sheet??? I took the seat harnesses out for a look and decided that I could put them together and install them now. They look way too new and will be beaten to death until they look like they have been in use for a while. There was no time like the present to fit them up to the figures but they are not what will keep them in. Some number 6 screws from the bottom or back will do that job. The harnesses are for dressing, only, as the clasps are not functional. If they were, I am sure the anchoring to the body that I did would hold them in place. Take care.

Don

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01-25-2013 11:29 PM  6 years ago
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I have got at the distressing of the interior and the seat harnesses. I am busting at the seams waiting for those panels to come in from ProHeli. One day. I also got around to finalizing Bruce's equipment and he is now sporting a new helmet, mic, radio, and some night vision goggles for good measure. No pics of him yet and I still need to glue everything in place on the pilot. The anchoring of them in the cockpit can't be done until I get the seats but I am now thinking I will try making them out of plastic tube or rod as has been done here on this forum. They look fantastic. If I can't make them work, I may just take up the offer for getting them build. I will make a trip out tomorrow to get that rod. Here's the pics.

Don

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01-26-2013 12:04 AM  6 years ago
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It took me the longest time to find a picture confirming what happened to the foot pedal floor extensions that were fairly long in the "C" versions and before. The angled floor wall meant that they needed to put floor extensions for the feet to slip along while operating the pedals. I had a hell of a time finding one single picture of what happened to those on the "D" versions and after but a single shot of a "Little Bird" from the front put it to rest. They are there but very small now and are basically just the round tip. I forgot these earlier.

Don

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01-26-2013 12:17 AM  6 years ago
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looking great Don!

I am trying to find a landing light for the nose of my MD500E. Then I can work on getting my interior done. Any ideas on what to use for that? I would light to use a LED light my 100 lumens flashlight.
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01-26-2013 01:58 AM  6 years ago
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Don, have you seen this site?
It's for an Israeli bird but its a walk around with lots of detail to look at.

http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/i...ershman/md-500/
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01-26-2013 02:23 AM  6 years ago
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tintmaster:

The housing I used is specifically for LEDs and I would not want to put more than that in the small area they have for the landing light. A fellow in New Zealand has put a light like yours in his Jet Ranger landing light housing and can only run it for short period of time before it heats up the heatsink to the point of it getting really hot. The LEDs I have are from the nightlight kit from RC Lights. I have also got 2000 mcd rated 3mm LEDs that I used in the tail strobe and rotating beacon and are they ever bright. I am sure that the landing light is brighter and I can see them (two in my AS350 and two in my Jet Ranger) in full daylight. They are not like a Sun Gun light, which should be able to make a nice circle on the ground, but they get the job done and you don't need to worry about heat.

Heli143:

Yes, thanks, I had that one as a primary source of pictures for the details of mine. The only drawback to those pictures is that they are of heli's that have been stripped down for scrap and have had any recent upgrades taken off and moved to other heli's before those pictures were taken(a long time before, that is). There is a panel in the door that I have in mine and actually should be a box but there are no details of it except for some poor res pictures. In fact, there is a box on the body right at the top rear of the front door but there are no pictures of it when the heli was in active service to see what it might have been for. I now know the drawbacks of trying to detail a non-current aircraft of any sort when the only ones, where pictures are of reasonable quality, are of scrapped units, sigh.

Thanks, guys.

Don
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01-27-2013 02:09 AM  6 years ago
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I couldn't hold back. I had to try making the seats before I got the ProHeli seats (they are really scale seats for the AS350 but they work in a pinch in the MD500). I bought some plastic tube and got at it. This is as a result of Rckfish and his 1/4 scale MD500 which he showed his skill at making the seats for his. He did offer to build me a set and I said that I would wait until the seats came in and/or I tried making them myself and failed. These are partially done but there is a lot of detail left to go on them like support bars, mounting plates, and stiffeners. Let's not even think about the covering yet. Take care and thanks Rckfish.

Don

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01-27-2013 04:39 PM  6 years ago
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You're making great progress! This is gonna be one good looking heli.
Barry
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01-27-2013 05:32 PM  6 years ago
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Thanks, Barry. It's a shame I had to cut the seat frames to fit around the chassis cover but that is how it goes sometimes. At least, with my AS350 I can have a full and complete front cockpit as I got rid of all the chassis that was sticking into that area. Take care.

Don
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01-27-2013 07:32 PM  6 years ago
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The seat frames are now close to being painted and covered. I added some bracing to match the pictures in my picture folder and the factory manual on seating, also I took an idea from Rckfish's seat frame build. I need to leave these dry for a few hours as that glue really dissolves the plastic and keeps it in that state for a number of hours. I made a test with the material that I will be covering it with and even went as far as to poke a hole in it and see what happens as I do need to properly secure the figures into their positions. The funny part of fitting them in was finding that the pilot has a bigger butt and I needed to widen the front frame just a bit so that the seat was not being used to support the weight of him. As it turns out, Bruce fits the seat frame as is, whew, because there is no room to widen it, lol. Onward......

Don

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01-28-2013 03:32 AM  6 years ago
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I took a break from the seats to get one more item built that I was really wondering how I was going to do it. It was not that bad but had me at it for hours. Just need to paint it now. I also took a shot of the cyclic stick difference as it is hard to tell without the pilot holding it. Whew.

Don

Forward facing part of the pedals Pilot's side

Forward facing part of the pedals Weapons Officers side

Side that faces Pilot

Side that faces Weapons Officer

Cyclics
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