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01-06-2013 01:32 AM  5 years agoPost 1
ghettoflyer

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hey guys, i have spent way too long out of the hobby and now that i am "home" meaning not in the Middle East or on a ship working, i am getting back to a field soon. but the hobby and advances have left me behind.i have nicads and are too old to use or i dont feel safe using them. the LHS is telling me there are new type of batteries out along with LiPo's. but i have nor read enough to know what is what. so any ideas on if i should get into Lipo"s or the new battery which i know nothing about or go elec. i fly a raptor 50 v-2. yes it is old but still a good heli. so what to do.
my email is jeromemundy@yahoo.com
i am in the Oceanside.Ca area

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01-06-2013 01:37 AM  5 years agoPost 2
Rudy

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Just get your Raptor flying and have fun.

Now in order to do this you will probably need to replace the RX and TX packs.

For the RX pack you can always just get another Nicad 4.8 pack and go fly. From the sounds of it you already have the charger for the Nicad RX pack.

You can also run either a LiFe pack or a LiPo pack for the RX. A 2cell LiFe pack is rated for 6.6 volts A 2 cell LiPo pack is rated for 7.4 volts. Depending on your receiver, servos and gyro you will mostly have to run a voltage regulator to drop the battery voltage down to 5 or 6 volts.

Here is an example of a LiFe pack.
[url=http://www.hobbypartz.com/98p-life-1c-2100-2s1p.html]

It should be noted that if you go with either a LiFe or LiPo pack you will also have to get a new charger that will support that type of battery.

Now for replacing the TX battery that all depends on the transmitter. So what type of TX is it.

Rudy Ackerman Houston TX/Bend OR

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01-06-2013 01:43 AM  5 years agoPost 3
fenderstrat

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welcome back.I dont think anyone leaves forever

as far as batteries if you mean for flight for elec helis LIPo still rule and they are WAY cheaper and have higher charge/discharge rates than just a few years ago.For example when I got seriously into the hobby in 07/08 a 20C 2200mah battery for a 450 size was 80 bucks(and people were dying to get their hands on the new "high discharge" 20C..lol)you can get a 3S 30-40C 2200mah battery for under 20 bucks..life is good for flying electric.

If you are talking about powering your electronics for your RAPPY besides LIPO there is LiFe batteries.I believe they are around 6.6V fresh off the charger so you can run them direct(if your set up is HV)no regulator.They have a flat discharge curve with a STEEP cutoff so tracking MAH usage is critcal.but guys are using them with great results and lovin them.

I personally dont use them so I am not too knowledable with the LiFe,but guys will chime in or a quick google search will help you out

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01-06-2013 02:20 AM  5 years agoPost 4
AWittleWabbit

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I'm guessing you dont have "hv" servos rated for 7.4v. So if you go the lipo or liFe route, you'll need a voltage regulator that gives you 5v out.

There's nothing wrong with staying nimh to fly though. If you don't feel like spending cash on a charger capable of charging lipos stay with what you know till you are ready.

What I like about Lipos and liFe is low self discharge and no memory. I don't have to charge right before flying and I can charge whether they are drained or not.

I take it you can fly on base at the Horno parade deck right? If so, I wouldn't be eager to dump glow unless you want to try electric. Why not fly what you got till you get back in the game?

Heli-itis sufferer.

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01-06-2013 10:09 PM  5 years agoPost 5
ghettoflyer

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too long away
thanks for the replys, i am still confused. i know NiCads r now a long gone thing. but i have to get back flying. i have a triton2 charger. so put this new battery stuff in laymans terms. i know i need new batteries. i dont want to chance the flying with these old batteries. so guys in simple terms i need to know if LiPos are better or the Life pack. remember i have been away so all the fast lingo is to be read and reread...lol..come on guys i am an old man....lol....

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01-06-2013 10:37 PM  5 years agoPost 6
AWittleWabbit

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Get this

http://www.readyheli.com/WRL-HBECHC...it_p_36454.html

And a 2 cell 2200 mah lipo.

This will replace your nicad. Lipo will be good for around 4 flights maybe less of sport flying on middle of the road digi servos. I used nearly the same combo on my old Rappy.

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01-06-2013 10:51 PM  5 years agoPost 7
Funky Trex

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I use this regulator with my Raptor 90 and Raptor 50. It works great with any 2 cell lipo (7.4 volt) and has a built in glow ignitor so you don't need to carry a seperate ignitor for starting the engine. It regulates the power down to 6 volts which is safe for most cyclic servos. It also has lights on the power switch to let you know when your battery is getting low and needs re-charged.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product...2S-LiPo-Battery

I linked the one that comes with a lipo, however, the Align lipo isn't that great. My Align lipo worked for a few months but went bad pretty quick. They also sell this regulator without a lipo so you can choose whatever 2s (7.4 volt) lipo you want. A 2200mah lipo normally gets around 4 flights in my Raptors before they need charged. You can use any size (mah) lipo you want with this regulator as long as it is 2 cell (7.4 volt). The more mah in the lipo, the more flights you can get before it needs charged again.

This is the same regulator without the Align lipo

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product...ltage-Regulator

This is the easiest solution if you want to switch from nicads. I have been using mine for years and they have never let me down.

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01-06-2013 11:07 PM  5 years agoPost 8
mustang67ford

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I still use 4.8v nimh in each of my helis. Was thinking of going to 6v, but am right now probably going to stay at 4.8v. Futaba's website says 6v will shorten the life of the electronics.

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01-06-2013 11:14 PM  5 years agoPost 9
fla heli boy

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if you're set up for nicad's, I'd stick with that for the time being. They've worked for decades, they'll still do the job...

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01-07-2013 12:40 AM  5 years agoPost 10
Cowjock

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Go get a 4cell 2700 mah Nimh battery and fly the crap out of your raptor. That's what I flew in my raptor 50v2 for years. Fly the pack for a year then replace. This way you won't have to worry about a voltage regulator or upgrading to those HV servos.

Just my 2 cents/

Damn that ground is hard! When's the right time to get out of this money sucking hobby?

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01-07-2013 12:47 AM  5 years agoPost 11
fla heli boy

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not to mention you'll have to drop 2-3 bills on a charger and a power supply. That's a lot of fuel.

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01-07-2013 01:08 AM  5 years agoPost 12
Funky Trex

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There is no need to buy a 2-300 dollar charger for 2 cell packs. This one is 37 bucks and plugs into any wall outlet

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product...Balance-Charger

Obviously there are plenty of options based on all of these replies. If you are comfortable using nicads, stick with them. If you want to move on to lipos, there are a lot of great options.

What servos are in your Raptor?

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01-07-2013 02:26 AM  5 years agoPost 13
fla heli boy

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true, but if edging into e-helis has taught me anything, just get the good stuff up front and buy it once. I'd buy a charger, go bigger, need another chrger, buy another and i'm at the point I'll need an even bigger charger at some point soon. As it is, I can charge up to 8s and I had to buy a power supply. I'll end up with a closet full of chargers....

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01-07-2013 02:37 AM  5 years agoPost 14
AWittleWabbit

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Guys, if I read right, he has Triton 2 charger. Good enough to charge the 2s lipo, I reckon. I do agree though, to go 600 electric in one shot would be a big kick in the nads. I'd keep flying the Rappy till it dies or he gets tired of it.

Heli-itis sufferer.

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01-07-2013 02:40 AM  5 years agoPost 15
AWittleWabbit

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Actually, Cowjock's idea is the best and cheapest. Buy a 4 cell 2700 nimh pack and just fly.

Heli-itis sufferer.

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01-07-2013 03:53 AM  5 years agoPost 16
DStJohn

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Jerry Who????
Welcome back amigo!!! I hope all is well with you.
Put fresh batteries in the Tx & Rx, get fresh fuel and go fly!!
I will send you a PM to catch up with you!!

Dan St.John
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01-07-2013 04:10 AM  5 years agoPost 17
MartyH

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I'd use a 4 cell NiMH in an A size cell and get that R50 flying. You don[t need anything more "advanced" than that.

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01-07-2013 04:52 AM  5 years agoPost 18
ghettoflyer

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too long away
DAN St John, yes it is me. yes i am still alive and yes i still hover. how is ms rita and jennifer. i was going to say little jenny but she more than likely got married now and did not wait for me to walk her down the isle. how is greg and family. yes i have been away(no not prison) i was working in the middle east and hawaii. now back in calif. see this forum is great for the right info..

ok so from what i see there is a chance to fly with out going elec and Lipo batteries and such.Dan if you lost my email it is jeromemundy@yahoo.com

Guys thanks for the help and I will look into the other batteries you all mentioned. I do have the triton2 charger. i just dont want to chance flying the rappy with old batteries. so that is why all the questions..
thanks again
now i just need to find some pilots near me to jin with to go fly have someone check out my bird and go from there

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