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01-12-2013 09:17 PM  7 years ago
spaceman spiff

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Someone try and explain this fact:
Wyoming has one of the highest rates of per-capita gun ownership in America, and that it also has among the lowest levels of gun violence.
Very small number of Democrats. Hehehe...
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01-12-2013 09:24 PM  7 years ago
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Kids there grow up with guns and are taught to respect them. You also don't have the inner city violence that other states have just because of the lay of the land.
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01-12-2013 10:05 PM  7 years ago
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Kids there grow up with guns and are taught to respect them. You also don't have the inner city violence that other states have just because of the lay of the land.
Very true.

This video claims the problems are in the metro areas with over 250,000 people.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/imp...e-with-friends/
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01-12-2013 11:29 PM  7 years ago
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A media frenzy coupled with an emotional campaign by parents of Dunblane resulted in the Firearms Act of 1998, which instituted a nearly complete ban on handguns. Owners of pistols were required to turn them in. The penalty for illegal possession of a pistol is up to 10 years in prison....
And Dunblane was the last mass shooting involving handguns to date.
Within a decade of the handgun ban and the confiscation of handguns from registered owners, crime with handguns had doubled according to British government crime reports.
The figures include crimes committed using air guns and imitation guns. Since laws were introduced restricting these in 2006, the figures have dropped significantly.

Armed street gangs have some British police carrying guns for the first time.
At best, this is misleading. Airports are the only places in the UK where police walk around carrying guns. There are armed response units with highly trained officers throughout the country, mostly in urban areas which is where most crimes are committed, but police who patrol the streets in the UK are not armed.

Furthermore, this is not the first time that ''some British police'' have carried guns.
Moreover, another massacre occurred in June 2010. Derrick Bird, a taxi driver in Cumbria, shot his brother and a colleague then drove off through rural villages killing 12 people and injuring 11 more before killing himself.
Another massacre by yet another licensed gun owner.

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01-12-2013 11:35 PM  7 years ago
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Very small number of Democrats. Hehehe...
Hawaii, Iowa, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Rhode Island and Vermont, were the US states which had the lowest homicide rates per capita in 2011.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/mur...nally-and-state

They are mostly Democrats.

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01-12-2013 11:55 PM  7 years ago
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In 2008, the Australian Institute of Criminology reported a decrease of 9% in homicides and a one-third decrease in armed robbery since the 1990s, but an increase of over 40% in assaults and 20% in sexual assaults.
Wouldn't the rates better represent the actual trends?

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01-13-2013 12:03 AM  7 years ago
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Has the Gun Ban in Australia really helped the citizens?

Check this out -

Watch at YouTube

There seems to be a lot of sorry people.
They know now that they got screwed by there government.

From what I have researched there violent crime rate is just about equal to ours yet they have 23mill citizens to our 310mill citizens.
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01-13-2013 12:05 AM  7 years ago
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In 2008, the Australian Institute of Criminology reported a decrease of 9% in homicides and a one-third decrease in armed robbery since the 1990s, but an increase of over 40% in assaults and 20% in sexual assaults.
A widely cited 2010 study in the American Journal of Law & Economics showed that gun-related homicides in Australia dropped 59% between 1995 and 2006.

When Massacres Force Change: Lessons from the U.K. and Australia
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01-13-2013 12:19 AM  7 years ago
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This is the best source I could find this far:

http://moveleft.org/dog_ban/br_j_criminology_2006_.pdf

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01-13-2013 12:41 AM  7 years ago
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An interesting thing about New Hampshire Democrats is they tend to be gun fans... More ineresting and enjoyable lot of folks than found elsewhere IMHO. Minessota is also a bit more independent/ hunting fishing liberty friendly...

Maybe needs to be mentioned again - not all conservatives own guns, and not all liberals hate them... in fact democrats have been the fastest growing group of gun owners recently, approximately 1/3 of them are gun owners.
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01-13-2013 01:14 AM  7 years ago
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This is the best source I could find this far:
As that was produced in 2006, the statistics to 2008 would not be supported. One must wonder why the article uses statistics from 2008 from the Australian Institute of Criminology, when it has released more recent statistics.

Here are some of them:

- Of the five categories of violent crime, four recorded a drop in the number of victims between 2009 and 2010. These were homicide, assault, sexual assault and robbery.

- The number of victims of kidnappings/abductions increased between 2009 and 2010 by 39 people. However, the number of kidnappings/abductions in 2010 represents a 23 percent decrease since a peak in 2008, when 788 kidnapping/abductions were recorded.

- Overall, the number of victims of homicide has been in decline since 1996. In 1996, there were 354 victims of homicide in Australia compared with 260 in 2010. This is a decrease of 27 percent.

- The number of victims of robbery in 2010 is the lowest on record since 1996, with 14,582 victims. Robbery victim numbers peaked in 2001 with 26,591 victims

- Sexual assault victim numbers have been decreasing since 2008, by approximately four percent per year.

http://www.aic.gov.au/documents/0/B...A%7Dfacts11.pdf

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01-13-2013 01:43 AM  7 years ago
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So?
There are important discrepancies between PCTOMLIN source and the data you have just posted. I tend to trust offcial information though.

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01-13-2013 01:55 AM  7 years ago
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In the end the country of Australia - cannot defend it self - nor can the UK.

Both must rely on the resources of others to do it for them.

Will They ????
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01-13-2013 02:29 AM  7 years ago
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In the end the country of Australia - cannot defend it self - nor can the UK.
Both must rely on the resources of others to do it for them.
Will They ????
You are off topic. The issue is whether or not gun control works in Australia. Now, just because it worked in Australia, it does not necessarily means it will work in the US. There are just one too many social/cultural differences that make a generalization impossible.

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01-13-2013 02:37 AM  7 years ago
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Sorry but the
Society is now under serfdom and yoked - as a Nation they no longer have self defense and must rely on others to do it for them.

Willingly gave up - their Freedom and Liberty and Independence

Who's fault is that but : THEIRS

So if it Ever Happen's again who ya gona call ????

Look at it This way :

When WE win we get to enjoy celebratory gunfire
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01-13-2013 05:28 AM  7 years ago
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In the end the country of Australia - cannot defend it self - nor can the UK.
Both must rely on the resources of others to do it for them.
Who do we need to defend ourselfs from?
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01-13-2013 05:38 AM  7 years ago
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Criminals, govt, etc....
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01-13-2013 06:26 AM  7 years ago
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Sorry Whiskey I'd like Greyeagle to answer that one. I think he has something else he is worried about.
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01-13-2013 06:47 AM  7 years ago
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That's exactly what Norway said :

How many young teenagers on a Island did he cut down ?? 45 or 50 ???

Then they made a phone call ???

To live with out Self Defense is foolish & complacent

Apathy
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01-13-2013 07:02 AM  7 years ago
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To live with out Self Defense is foolish & complacent
YEP. IT'S CALLED BEING A PU$$Y. Ask the Jews how that worked out for them.
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