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01-11-2013 11:30 PM  7 years ago
spaceman spiff

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Someone here posted FBI link that indicated that violent crime has dropped 50% in the US since 1992, so suck it.
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01-11-2013 11:42 PM  7 years ago
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Someone here posted FBI link that indicated that violent crime has dropped 50% in the US since 1992, so suck it.
You had 16 mass shootings last year. We had none.

I like your go suck it comment I've spent my time in this debate biting my tounge as to be respectful to you all.
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01-11-2013 11:43 PM  7 years ago
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Someone here posted FBI link that indicated that violent crime has dropped 50% in the US since 1992, so suck it.
Actually violent crime dropped 50% since 1981.
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01-11-2013 11:47 PM  7 years ago
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[quote]I like your go suck it comment [quote]

haha Well done!
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01-12-2013 12:43 AM  7 years ago
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You had 16 mass shootings last year. We had none.
I am willing to bet we have had a lot more auto accidents too, but nobodys talking about auto control.....
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01-12-2013 01:19 AM  7 years ago
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Well : How do you protect your self ???? Hoggy -----42
Like if Snookie or Skippy show's up at your door ?

Australia : Has absolutely viscous road rage - it's all over the Net and very public physical violence.

Call and wait ??? For Who ?????

Do you Wear Shamin white robe's or have kinetic blow gun's ??

How do they provide coverage for the family or is their no violence but loving and rubbing ?? ?
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01-12-2013 03:59 AM  7 years ago
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Hoggy42,
This topic has nothing to do with running down Australia, like I said on the first page, "no offense meant to my friends down under". This topic was started to have a debate about the gun control being proposed by our "lawmakers" and how well it works in a negative direction. Chicago and Washington D.C. laws are a joke and another example of a different aspect of gun controls, and again how they don't work.

This thread was opened with a real world example of gun control that only penalizes the law abiding citizens of a great country with no thought to fixing the root of the issue. Typical politician crap with only the good citizens suffering the negative affects. Just as we are going down the road of European fiscal socialism, this government is now trying to go the route of European gun control. Remember the old line from Rahm Dead Fish, "never let a good crisis go to waste", this is the crisis to try and further the socialist agenda in this country.

If we are going to disarm the American citizen, why does odumbo need this?
Despite launching a gun control agenda that threatens to disarm the American people, President Obama has signed a bill that would afford him armed Secret Service protection for life.
I find the sarcastic title of the thread offensive the topic starter has been made to look foolish.
Your no longer able to prove the debate

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01-12-2013 04:20 AM  7 years ago
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01-12-2013 11:30 AM  7 years ago
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I think hoggy needs to go find his pecker. Jesus man, grow a sack!!!
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01-12-2013 02:29 PM  7 years ago
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I think hoggy needs to go find his pecker. Jesus man, grow a sack!!!
And I think you need to stop pulling on your gun so hard.

Pctomlin The troble with what you've done is you have posted figures from years ago 1 year after the ban and you have the video from which ever media outlet want to scare you with about what will happen. That report you have reposted is from the pro gun people. Man if your not going to check your facts with up to date info you end up with someone like me pointing out how wrong the info is. Yeah we are different from Chicago and D.C. but you can't expect to see massive results in a year or 2 and you won't get any results if it's just a couple of spots on the map it's either all or nothing.
Well : How do you protect your self ???? Hoggy -----42
Like if Snookie or Skippy show's up at your door ?
It's very unlikely I will need to protect myself. But I used to teach Karate and have trained a in a small amount of Kung Fu I'm confident I can disarm a knife bat or crowbar if I had to however I'd rather hand over the few bucks in my wallet or my car keys for my insured car these things are not worth my life if I fail.
Australia : Has absolutely viscous road rage - it's all over the Net and very public physical violence.
Anyone get shot or shot at? we have rednecks too we just don't give em guns

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I am willing to bet we have had a lot more auto accidents too, but nobodys talking about auto control.....
Last time I checked nobody drove a car into a school and started running over kids in thier classrooms where that had nowhere to run and hide.

Look I can't explain your road toll other then to say American cars are junk sorry they just are don't handle well don't brake well too heavy and big junk. I think when they build them it goes like this test driver "Sir this car handles bad" boss of motor co "put a bigger more powerful engine in that'll fix it"

That and based on how easy it is there to get guns I must assume the only skill you need to get your driving licence is to be able to open the cereal box it's at the bottem of.

Dude really you can't put auto accidents in the same basket as delibiate shootings.

You guys also need to look back a step or two I never said you should be banning all guns just those that can gun down large amounts of innocent people in a very quickly. The only reason anyone of you seems to have for them is to overthrow your goverment.... It's not going to happen your all talk. And then one of says if you walk up to the white house with your assualt rilfes that the US military won't stop you go on then go point your rifle at them and ask them to step aside.

Oh I here The White House has rejected a petition signed by thousands of people calling for a Death Star to be built.
http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Odd...proposal_120113

You sure have some smart people over there I mean what sort of people am I talking to check this story from today are you all this dumb?

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/0...ates-911-calls/

Anyway as I said check your facts this one is more on the money
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01-12-2013 02:59 PM  7 years ago
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Nuff said
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01-12-2013 03:03 PM  7 years ago
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ah, you complained that American cars are junk. That's it, I'm complaining to Mark.... I'm very offended....
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01-12-2013 03:06 PM  7 years ago
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Well, in all actuality...it really does not matter wether it works there or not, I am glad for you all that it does...but it will not work here...mostly cause most, including myself WILL NOT give mine up.....and for the record, I would rather push an american car than drive ANY foreign car...you can keep them.Caliber 90 FT os91 c-spec
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01-12-2013 03:49 PM  7 years ago
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01-12-2013 03:53 PM  7 years ago
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Oh I'm sorry I didn't realise you were in the middle of a uprising. Grab your guns and march to the gates of the White House....
Any individual wanting to do that, would first of all have to apply for and obtain a permit to carry a gun in Washington.

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01-12-2013 03:54 PM  7 years ago
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The US military WILL NOT take up arms against its own people.
LOL

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01-12-2013 03:59 PM  7 years ago
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hmmm...interesting history there.
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01-12-2013 04:24 PM  7 years ago
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kind of sad aljazeera now has made al gore very wealthy and the boob tube for liberal americans even scarier and stronger than before. we should ban tv's.
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01-12-2013 05:22 PM  7 years ago
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Water Mark -----
Any place - any where - that sand is found in the crank case after 911:

Should be removed - a complete change of oil - including a better filter'. If deemed necessary - a complete a through High Colonic

Get rid of the Crap
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01-12-2013 08:15 PM  7 years ago
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Wall Street Journal piece by historian Joyce Lee Malcolm December 27th 2012:
She notes that both Australia and the United Kingdom have had tight restrictions on legal gun ownership for decades but have still experienced mass shootings. In the wake of a particularly grisly 1996 slaughter in Dunblane, Scotland, British authorities responded in ways now urged by American supporters of gun control.

A media frenzy coupled with an emotional campaign by parents of Dunblane resulted in the Firearms Act of 1998, which instituted a nearly complete ban on handguns. Owners of pistols were required to turn them in. The penalty for illegal possession of a pistol is up to 10 years in prison....

Within a decade of the handgun ban and the confiscation of handguns from registered owners, crime with handguns had doubled according to British government crime reports. Gun crime, not a serious problem in the past, now is. Armed street gangs have some British police carrying guns for the first time. Moreover, another massacre occurred in June 2010. Derrick Bird, a taxi driver in Cumbria, shot his brother and a colleague then drove off through rural villages killing 12 people and injuring 11 more before killing himself.

In Australia, Malcolm writes, a horrific mass shooting in Tasmania just a few weeks after the Dunblane massacre led to similar legislative results.

Australia passed the National Firearms Agreement, banning all semiautomatic rifles and semiautomatic and pump-action shotguns and imposing a more restrictive licensing system on other firearms.... Between Oct. 1, 1996, and Sept. 30, 1997, the government purchased and destroyed more than 631,000 of the banned guns at a cost of $500 million.

To what end? While there has been much controversy over the result of the law and buyback, Peter Reuter and Jenny Mouzos, in a 2003 study published by the Brookings Institution, found homicides "continued a modest decline" since 1997. They concluded that the impact of the National Firearms Agreement was "relatively small," with the daily rate of firearms homicides declining 3.2%....

In 2008, the Australian Institute of Criminology reported a decrease of 9% in homicides and a one-third decrease in armed robbery since the 1990s, but an increase of over 40% in assaults and 20% in sexual assaults.
US crime statistics have fallen across the board by about 50% since 1992 according to the FBI. In other words, your gun laws do not work.

Malcolm sums up:
Strict gun laws in Great Britain and Australia haven't made their people noticeably safer, nor have they prevented massacres. The two major countries held up as models for the U.S. don't provide much evidence that strict gun laws will solve our problems.

Someone try and explain this fact:
Wyoming has one of the highest rates of per-capita gun ownership in America, and that it also has among the lowest levels of gun violence.
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