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12-05-2012 05:16 PM  5 years agoPost 1
steelie600

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Crewe, Cheshire, England

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Hi guys, Ive been out of helis for 4 or 5 years now as a messy divorce robbed me of all my money and i am just now getting back into it.

I have recently bought a blade nano which i freakin love, a new copy of phoenix sim, and I still have my trusty Vibe 90 (no way was I selling that.

Herein lies the dilemma The vibe is fully discontinued and its a right pain in the ass to find parts so I have shelved her and shes now my shelf queen. Also to add to this, my DX7 has got damp at some point and the radio just doenst seem right so need a new radio too

Here is what im going for.............. A raptor 90 3d, NOT a g4 a normal old skool rappy. Parts are still readily available, the helis themselves are dirt cheap to buy and I just love the rappy 90, they just look right, both in the air and on the bench. BUT it will be with a twist cos im gonna go flybarless straight away.

Here is the spec im gonna get for it
Rappy 90 3d with G force flybarless head
OS 105 with powerboost pipe
bls451x4 and bls251 for tail
gy750 flybarless and governot
Radix 710 main blades and 105mm tail blades
align voltage reg and switch glow
3000mah lipo flight battery
and a futaba 8j radio

So what are your thoughts?? would i be better getting a newer heli at much more cost, or will this be a great flyer. Ive never flown a flybarless rappy, but flown many normal 90s and just love them. Any help/ advice/ views welcome guys

Best regards Kev

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12-05-2012 05:27 PM  5 years agoPost 2
Mty-Helis

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Align
After all said and done you will be over 1500dlls.
You should aim for Trex 700dfc combo, it comes with all bells and whistles for 1200, you can find a used engine rather cheap and that is it, you are ready to fly.

Felipe

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12-05-2012 05:38 PM  5 years agoPost 3
steelie600

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Im ruling align out of the equation as ive had all flavours of align before I hung my tranny up and the quality of the parts is rubbish. Thats why I got the vibe. You put a JR heli next to an Align one, you can tell which is better made and it isnt Align.

I will agree they have turned the heli hobby on its head and for the better but their products are crap. Thats my opinion. also youd have to remember as well even if I get the dfc kit at 1200 i still need radio and engine and pipe thats taking me over 2000

Just to clarify Ive seen the heli kit BRAND NEW for £260 or £418 of your collonal dollars so this is a massive saving, less than half the price of a g4 90. But would i be better stumping up the extra for the g4 initially or will the 90 3d be fine?

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12-05-2012 05:43 PM  5 years agoPost 4
Mty-Helis

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G4
The G4 weights a lot less than the 3D Raptor, if you put the 105 engine then the 3d should feel like a G4 on a 90.

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12-05-2012 05:52 PM  5 years agoPost 5
Scooterpilot

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Southern, California

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Looks like a very nice set up...welcome back.

Two G-4's & X50's YS60SR,Futaba 18SZ/12Z/14FG, ,Rail Blades Rep

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12-05-2012 05:58 PM  5 years agoPost 6
steelie600

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Thanks for the welcome scooter!

One other engine ive been mulling over is the YS 120. Has anyone any experience with these? Im a bit of an OS fanboy in my racing buggies aswell. But if the 120 is a good improvement over the 91sr I could be tempted

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12-05-2012 06:22 PM  5 years agoPost 7
Solmanbandit

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One thing really nice about the YS 120 is that you can use 15% fuel compared to 30%. That can save money when buying fuel for it.

Trex 700E / Trex 500 ESP - Ikon/ HD 500 - Ikon 2/ Goblin 500 Ikon 2

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12-06-2012 06:03 AM  5 years agoPost 8
dragonflya

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Evergreen Aviation RC Club, Flyaway RC Club Oregon

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Welcome back.
I'm an align fan mainly because I'm in deep with 'em, but I have the 91sr and the 120. Love em both, the 120 has noticeable more power even way rich. They both came off the flybar and the combo with flybarless is crazy power (for nitro).


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12-06-2012 02:38 PM  5 years agoPost 9
steelie600

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Thanks for the welcome back guys. Looks like the ys 120 it is then. The older rappy is a heavy old bird so extra power always welcome LOL

has anyone any views on the gy750?? Ive not seen many bad reports only user error.

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12-06-2012 02:40 PM  5 years agoPost 10
MartyH

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USA

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GY750 will do you no wrong. What you say you have read would be an accurate assessment.

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12-06-2012 05:28 PM  5 years agoPost 11
Scooterpilot

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Southern, California

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The YS120 is an excellent motor. Like any large displacement engine, as the HP/performance increases the tuning window decreased. This can make it feel like the motor is very difficult you tune. Up front, you need to know this as a click or two on the needle can make a very significant change to the way the engine runs.

Suggest you set idle first, then mid and finally top end

Cheers

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12-06-2012 05:45 PM  5 years agoPost 12
steelie600

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OK thanks for that scooter, im used to tuning engines cos ive been racing nitro buggies and you have to wring every drop outta them badboys! Ill just take my time with it and concentrate on a good break in and clean tune ( I always run my helis a touch rich, but not that rich that the engine wont rev cleanly through different throttle openings)

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12-06-2012 11:20 PM  5 years agoPost 13
pcw

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chicago

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Nice to hear you are coming back from the divorce!

IMO the CGY750 has way to many tuning options and can be a killer on time if you just want to fly.. Ive since traded up for a Skookum SK540- easy to tune, tho needing a laptop for the field unlike the 750 tuning on the fly. The 750 just never felt right to me, but did have a more 'natural' feel rather than robotic

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12-06-2012 11:47 PM  5 years agoPost 14
McKrackin

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Lucasville,Ohio

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The YS120 is no doubt a great engine.

I run the OS105HZ-R and it is awesome...even running rich.

Align has come a looooong way in their 700s in the past couple years.
But with that said,I am loving my Avant Aurora 90

The kit is cheap and parts are in stock

The OS engine just looks so at home in an Avant heli.

Notice the fan shroud is off?
That's the coolest thing about my Avant...The engine comes out and goes back in without taking any of the frame apart

There are a few Avants in the classifieds CHEAP if used is the route you go.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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12-07-2012 02:40 AM  5 years agoPost 15
Scooterpilot

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Futaba recently released an update to the 750, version 1.3. This made a very complex system much easier to install and fly with mostly stock settings. Check the flybarless section for comments and a write up.
https://rc.runryder.com/t719720p1/

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