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12-03-2012 06:20 PM  5 years agoPost 1
uk sailor

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Now that there is the latest soft ware update everybody seems to be happy with the performance of their Futaba units. I had read a fair amount about the sensors failing. I am trying to discern if the failures are a thing of the past or that those who had failures had perhaps fitted their units in a manner to cause this to happen such as fixing the unit with a tie wrap over it transfering vibration
No flame war please just honest constructive feed back before shelling out hard earned cash.
Any updates on the Spectrum vortex becoming available ?

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12-03-2012 07:40 PM  5 years agoPost 2
Andy from Sandy

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Any updates on the Spectrum vortex becoming available?
The vortex is a Spartan product. I know a pilot who has one for testing. As yet I don't think any pricing or release date has been given.

In flying the unit is good and according to this guy the governor is easier to setup than the v-bar one and for him works better. If you ever had issues with a Spartan tail gyro those issues may still be present in the vortex as I don't think anything has been done to that part of the system; it is as supplied in a quark.

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12-03-2012 08:50 PM  5 years agoPost 3
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I have not flown for nearly three years and so need to find what is the good/bad with all the new technologies. I did use a Spartan 760 back then and it was thought to be the bees knees at the time. The VBar system seems to the one with fewest complaints as to performance with few if any issues but at a price, so the Futabab if reliable looks good and the Spartan seems to offer the right package if it performs and is reliable.
What problems were there with the Quark ?

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12-03-2012 09:31 PM  5 years agoPost 4
Andy from Sandy

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What problems were there with the Quark?
I don't know of any. I just make the point that the vortex is using the quark for the tail so if you personally didn't like it or had any issues then they are likely to still be present.

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12-04-2012 01:12 AM  5 years agoPost 5
Zaneman007

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You seem to be mixing tail gyros with flybarless systems.

All the rave is FBL, FB systems with tail gyros are in the minority. A great FBL unit will run you 240 US dollars.

The leaders in the pack on Tail gyros are not the leaders in the FBL market, new manufactures are popping up daily.

Good luck with reviews, every camp has some pretty good cheerleaders that will not back down.

My advice would be to fly use what the heli guys at your field are flying or wade through the quagmire of hard headed opinions.

Old Guys Rule!

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12-04-2012 06:29 AM  5 years agoPost 6
uk sailor

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Well there are no heli buddies at my field to be that I know of especialy for flybar less. I thought you could buy a flybar less unit and use only the tail gyro aspect.
I still own a flybarred heli, but would prefer a flybarless unit ready for the next model.
I have used gyros in the past from all the manufacturers at that time top end models from Futaba JR CSM Spartan etc and the Vbar seems less expensive even than I was paying for just a tail gyro abck then but it seems even more important a choice now and I have nobody to see in person.
The Vbar having a long track record seems like a good idea but the Futaba was perhaps my fav gyro the JR itmes not being as intuative although great if you got it right
Thanks for sharing your thoughts both of you

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12-04-2012 11:29 AM  5 years agoPost 7
fastflyer20

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Some of the FBL units allow it to be used only as a tail gyro, then when you are ready, install a FBL head and it is converted to FBL. I try not it be a fan boy of any of them since I pay hard earned cash for my parts. The way I see it, Futaba still does not have it figured out. Look in the for sale section and see what a used one is worth compared to new. BeastX (also available as a full receiver in the Spektrum AR7200) remains one of the simplest to set up with very good performance. Vortex not being released yet is still a total unknown. Don't buy the first one. It seems to take any manufactures a few tweaks of the software to get it right. I traded in a Vbar and SK730 in favor of a Helicommand, they seem to be coming on strong right now. The sx version is expensive but has the only rescue function that works on all heli's. msh has the Brain and Skookum has the new sk540 out too, I have not tried either one yet.

Enjoy the search!

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12-04-2012 05:23 PM  5 years agoPost 8
Andy from Sandy

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You seem to be mixing tail gyros with flybarless systems.
The vortex fbl unit as with other fbl controllers typically have a tail gyro and an XY gyro. In the case of the Vortex the gyro controlling the tail is based on the quark.

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12-05-2012 01:45 AM  5 years agoPost 9
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beastX can be used as a stand alone tail gyro.

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