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11-10-2012 05:29 PM  7 years ago
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InvertedDude

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State of LA asks to withdraw from union peacefully peition!
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...rnment/1wrvtngl

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11-10-2012 05:38 PM  7 years ago
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Half the state of LA is on welfare.

They would not make it very long without the federal government spoon feeding them.

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11-10-2012 05:44 PM  7 years ago
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They have enough salt, oil and natural gas to make it
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11-10-2012 07:59 PM  7 years ago
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im creating a petition for my state TN to do the same. we are all republican except the ghettos of nashville and memphisonly way ill ever make the jack is if i work at a cheese factory
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11-10-2012 08:54 PM  7 years ago
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can we lump them together w/ Miami/Lauderdale and ship all 3 out to sea??
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11-11-2012 12:24 AM  7 years ago
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Half the state of LA is on welfare.
It is sort of amusing that the deepest red states in the south are also the same states that get way more back from the government that they pay into it. So despite being deep red they are in fact "takers" and not "makers".

I live in California and we only get 84 cents on the dollar back and yet we are blue as can be. So are we really makers after all??

Of is that label just utter nonsense??
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11-11-2012 12:31 AM  7 years ago
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your major population centers are solid blue, the rest I'm not so sure about. True or not?? I think it's pretty much the same nationwide. Try to come up with a LARGE city that's red. Hard to do. Why??? You have a lot of minorities living in large citys. Not trying to make a statement with that BTW, just an observation.
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11-11-2012 06:19 AM  7 years ago
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You know what else you get in large urban areas? A large number of well educated people with good jobs. I'm just stunned how easily you guys have bought into this makers and takers BS. They know how easy it is to pull your strings and you guys just happily go right along with it.

Our poverty rate is #35 out of 50 at 13.2%. And yet we get back less than we pay in. Mississippi is #50 with a rate of 20.1% And guess what, they are also the biggest net winners of Federal Money. They get back $2.02 for every dollar they send to DC.

So I'm still lost on this makers/takers stuff. The deepest red states are the largest takers while the deep blue states are the lower takers.

That's the problem with trying to distill a complex issue down to a bumper sticker.

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11-11-2012 06:36 AM  7 years ago
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you're right. But the well educated, big earners are somewhat balanced out by the uneducated, baby making minorities that never produce a thing and live off the teet their whole life. Why can't you guys admit that this is an issue??? I'm not saying there aren't well heeled, intelligent minorities, there's plenty of them and I'm glad to see it. I can admit there's lots of mouth breathers in my race. Why can't minorities do the same??? Nope, it's never their fault, it's gotta be whitey's fault....

Here's an example and I'll admit there's a ton of 'em out there....
But at least I will admit it...

PS - Iwas related by marriage to many of this kind of example.
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11-11-2012 06:45 AM  7 years ago
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So if I understand you, while you maintain you are not a racist, you do feel that it is minorities that are the worse welfare problem?

I'm sure this will be lost on you, but still, just in case there are people who care about reality, I will post it anyhow:
So who gets welfare? This is where the race issue enters. Contrary to popular perception, the recipients of TANF are about equally divided between whites, blacks and Hispanics. According to the Department of Health and Human Services, in 2009 the TANF rolls were 31.2 percent white, 33.3 percent black, and 28.8 percent Hispanic.

Yet the primary image of a "welfare recipient" in most people's mind is a black woman. This has been demonstrated in study after study by political scientists, psychologists, and communication scholars. Most Americans not only drastically overestimate the proportion of welfare recipients who are black, they also tend to believe that welfare makes up a huge proportion of the federal budget, when in fact it accounts for less than 1 percent of federal spending.

As Donald Kinder and Cindy Ham wrote in Us Against Them: Ethnocentric Foundations of American Opinion, "means-tested programs like AFDC and food stamps are understood by whites to largely benefit shiftless black people." The racialization in perceptions of welfare is reinforced by the news media, which usually use images of black people to illustrate stories about welfare and poverty (Martin Gillens' Why Americans Hate Welfare: Race, Media and the Politics of Antipoverty Policy is the most complete examination of this topic).

So when you say the word "welfare," the image that immediately pops into most people's heads is a black one. Opinions about welfare and opinions about race are inextricably tied together, and there is no one who works in politics, Republican or Democrat, who doesn't understand that. Which leads us to our final question.
http://prospect.org/article/truth-about-welfare
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11-11-2012 06:48 AM  7 years ago
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The deepest red states are the pargest takers while the deep blue states are the lower takers.
Yahoooooo!!! Red states win. That should really chap you blue state boys. Wow, outsmarted by rednecks.
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11-11-2012 07:03 AM  7 years ago
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Yep, you guys are too smart for us. You take more than you make and then support the people who want to stop you from doing that. Real bunch of rocket scientists to be sure.AMA Leader Member
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11-11-2012 07:21 AM  7 years ago
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Yep, you guys are too smart for us. You take more than you make and then support the people who want to stop you from doing that. Real bunch of rocket scientists to be sure.
Makes you wonder doesn't it?

Boy, if I lived in a blue state with all those educated people, I surely would be chapped at those rednecks sucking my state dry.

To show we appreciate you blue states, here's our spokesman saluting you with a tall one:

Thanks again...burrrrp!!!
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11-11-2012 07:34 AM  7 years ago
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the recipients of TANF are about equally divided between whites, blacks and Hispanics. According to the Department of Health and Human Services, in 2009 the TANF rolls were 31.2 percent white, 33.3 percent black, and 28.8 percent Hispanic.
And thats all fine and dandy except for about 71% of the population is white, 15% hispanic, and 13% black. That pretty well throws your whole excuse down the drain.
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11-11-2012 07:34 AM  7 years ago
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Is that a prime example of the purity of the white race that FHB is so concerned about??AMA Leader Member
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11-11-2012 07:38 AM  7 years ago
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And thats all fine and dandy except for about 71% of the population is white, 15% hispanic, and 13% black. That pretty well throws your whole excuse down the drain.
How so?? The Health and Human Services numbers show that the racial breakdown is fairly equal. Therefore the idea that most people getting public assistance are lazy blacks is wrong.
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11-11-2012 07:45 AM  7 years ago
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Break it down smart guy, if blacks are only 13% of the population but are also 30% of the welfare rolls............understand?
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11-11-2012 07:51 AM  7 years ago
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god you're so stupid it hurts. You're the same person that says the justice system is racist because blacks are 13% of the population, but 105% of the jail head count. Well, maybe, JUST MAYBE, it's because they're the ones commitin' the crimes. Ever cross your mind??? Go sit in a court room for a few hours and send me back a report. YOU are an enabler...nothing more. Keep making excuses and watch things get worse. If Cali, Chicago and NYC ever get wired together, they'll implode the globe with stupidity.

PS...did you not notice the pic I posted and the caveat that we have plenty of morons in my race??? I guess that escaped your keen eye.
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11-11-2012 07:54 AM  7 years ago
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Hots - they just don't get it....never will.
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11-11-2012 02:23 PM  7 years ago
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The site shows currently 14 states petitioning the same.
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