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10-29-2012 12:15 AM  5 years agoPost 1
GyroFreak

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Here is my problem: I have a Hex multirotor with underslung camera mount. I am currently using a Canon Powershot which works great for the types of stills I want to take, and it has a built in time lapse which allows me to take pictures while flying without a shutter release. (I set it to 5 sec intervals)
BUT, my problem is here in Florida the fine sand gets kicked up during take off and landings, which tends to get in the lens and also jam up the lens retract.
So, I would like a camera as follows:
Waterproof (only to keep sand and dirt from fouling up the camera)
No fisheye (like the GoPro ?)
Built in adjustable time lapse shutter
10+ megapixalsor
Fixed focus at infinity, or a way to set focus fixed.
Price around $200 to $300
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The Gopro hero2 or hero3 might fit this requirement but I'm not clear on how the lens system works. Does it allow none fisheyed pictures. Maybe some one who has the hero2 or hero3 can fill me in
Many thanks.
Paul
Here is the current Hex setup:

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10-29-2012 03:40 AM  5 years agoPost 2
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Hmmmmm

Futaba 14Mz / 1300mm Multi rotor / Logo 10

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10-29-2012 11:52 AM  5 years agoPost 3
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10-29-2012 03:27 PM  5 years agoPost 4
GyroFreak

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Thanks ErichF,
That looks like the perfect fit for my needs. Thanks for the link also.
Paul

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10-29-2012 10:40 PM  5 years agoPost 5
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Borrowed a GoPro Hero 2, but it has the fish eye lens, otherwise it would be perfect. Anybody have the Hero 3 ? I think it has diffrent lens modes so maybe no fish eye effect. I looked at the specs but I am not sure.
Any comments ? Otherwise the Panasonic looks good.

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10-29-2012 10:44 PM  5 years agoPost 6
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You can add this to a heroHD

http://www.readymaderc.com/store/in...products_id=439

no more fish eye

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10-29-2012 10:52 PM  5 years agoPost 7
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Thanks splitboarder, But that lens sticks out of the gopro so you can no longer use the waterproof case. It also voids the warranty, which isn't a good idea for me if I buy a new camera.
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10-29-2012 11:41 PM  5 years agoPost 8
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Have you tried the narrower FOV modes on the GoPro2 yet?

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10-29-2012 11:45 PM  5 years agoPost 9
R Hudson

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I can tell you one thing......getting a combination of wide lens (wide fov) and no (or very low) distortion will require multiple glass elements and those glass elements are going to be big and heavy so we are talking about something that will probably be beyond your weight preferences.

One thing you may want to consider would be to correct for distortion in post. That is what I am certain GoPro did in their promo footage.

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10-30-2012 12:33 AM  5 years agoPost 10
GyroFreak

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f wide lens (wide fov) and no (or very low) distortion
Very true, but I don't really want wide angle. I have found a Pentax Optio W60 that seems to also fit my requirements. Sealed unit, 10 MP, time lapse setting (down to 10 sec, wish it were 5 sec, but since it is free, I'll live with it)(free because I found it in my collection of cameras.)
Yes, there are post processing methods to reduce the fisheye, but that is extra post processing and since I'm strictly an amateur, don't want to do that. The most I do is crop, exposure, tint, and contrast.

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10-30-2012 12:46 AM  5 years agoPost 11
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Have you tried the narrower FOV modes on the GoPro2 yet?
Not sure that's available in the camera (non-video) mode. I downloaded the instruction and trying to figure this one out.
Thanks
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EDIT: The different GoPro Hero 2 FOV are available only in video mode. I only use still shots.

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10-30-2012 01:06 AM  5 years agoPost 12
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I see. I didn't know you were thinking strictly stills. Honestly the GoPro (any version) is still just a POV wide angle sports camera. Many think (hope) it is more than that but it simply isn't. The appeals for aerial are obvious with size, weight, price, and toughness but hoping that it will provide "professional" results truly depends on context. Would I use one "professionally" for a POV, W/A fisheye, or extreme high-risk shot? Heck yes. Would I use one instead of a pro camera for anything else? No.

They are really nice but hey are what they are.

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10-31-2012 02:58 PM  5 years agoPost 13
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Would I use one "professionally" for a POV, W/A fisheye, or extreme high-risk shot? Heck yes. Would I use one instead of a pro camera for anything else? No.
They are really nice but hey are what they are.
GoPro cameras are great for point of view, used for scuba diving, snorkeling, skiing, roller blading, and riding a motorcycle.

For the use on a RC heli, it's great to strap it on and take pictures and vidoes for fun.

As far as being used as "professional" picture and video quality?
If I hired someone to take my picture and they pulled out a GoPro, the photoshoot would be immediately cancelled.

GoPro cameras are not for professional use. GoPro cameras are for recreational use.

I own several GoPro cameras and "professional" cameras.

The GoPro are great cameras, but do not make it out more than what it is. Just sayin.

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10-31-2012 03:57 PM  5 years agoPost 14
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If you want quality videos you need to spend more than $200-$300 on your camera. Most at that price will not have any type of built-in stabilization. The Lumix is a good choice. So is the new Sony NEX 5R (not 5N). Both have built-in stab. The Sony has WiFi now that allows you to control the camera in the air from your smart phone, tablet or laptop - like the GoPro with WiFi but with much better quality and no fish-eye.

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10-31-2012 05:15 PM  5 years agoPost 15
Stephen Born

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If you want quality videos you need to spend more than $200-$300 on your camera.
^^^+1 it all goes back to the old saying, "You get what you pay for."

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10-31-2012 09:56 PM  5 years agoPost 16
GyroFreak

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since I'm strictly an amateur
I am not a pro---
That is the reason I will not consider and expensive pro camera.
My Pentax Optio W60 seems to fit my requirements, which I only discovered after my Canon was jammed and I posted this message.
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I only shoot AP for fun and for free, and I won't shoot anywhere where property or personal damage could occur if I have a sudden flight failure.
So how do you guys using underslung mounts keep debri from jamming the works.
The waterproof cameras generally have no external moving parts, so they fit my simple requirements. Too much dust and dirt, just rinse.

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10-31-2012 10:12 PM  5 years agoPost 17
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As far as being used as "professional" picture and video quality?
If I hired someone to take my picture and they pulled out a GoPro, the photoshoot would be immediately cancelled.
My point before is that it is all a matter of perspective. For example: If I was an aerobatic pilot and I wanted a multi-angle video produced for me I would have no problem having someone use a few GoPro cameras mounted both outside and inside the plane to achieve multiple shots (has been done many, many times). I certainly wouldn't have any problem hiring a pro to use GoPro cameras and professionally edit a video for me. I would probably not hire a pro to do that if the GoPro was his only camera in his arsenal but if it was just a tool being used by a pro to produce (in this case) a "professional" product I sure as heck wouldn't cancel the shoot.

Give the GoPro credit where credit is due. It has already been used extensively in "professional" environments. That does not necessarily grant it "professional" status but in the same respect it certainly doesn't eliminate it from being used "professionally".

That darn word "professional". Why does it have to be so subjective?

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10-31-2012 10:17 PM  5 years agoPost 18
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The waterproof cameras generally have no external moving parts, so they fit my simple requirements. Too much dust and dirt, just rinse
That is one big benefit. Also, as a result of a waterproof housing they are generally more robust

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10-31-2012 10:26 PM  5 years agoPost 19
Al Austria

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If I hired someone to take my picture and they pulled out a GoPro, the photoshoot would be immediately cancelled.
David Windestål(from http://rcexplorer.se) has been contracted by a number of companies and organizations around the world to do filming with his tricopter and a GoPro, his work has even aired on broadcast television.

Point is that it's all about application, there is a job for every tool. You should never ever tell a professional photographer that their CAMERA takes nice pictures...

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10-31-2012 11:22 PM  5 years agoPost 20
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Give the GoPro credit where credit is due.
I do. Otherwise it would'nt be in my personal arsenal.
You should never ever tell a professional photographer that their CAMERA takes nice pictures...
Nice. lol

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