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10-14-2012 08:07 PM  5 years agoPost 1
ttaylor63

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Ok building a Whiplash Gasser. Went to slide motor into frames & holes weren't even close to lining up to put bolts into. So i removed & added a washer under each bolt on motor plate then slid back into frames & holes were a little closer. Still had a hell of a time getting bolts into there spots. Has anyone had to add more than one washer or does just one seem to work out. I've never had such a hard time getting 4 bolts started in my life....

Motor is a Toxic 26

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10-14-2012 11:06 PM  5 years agoPost 2
Carey Shurley

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any chance you could take a quick pic?

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10-15-2012 02:50 AM  5 years agoPost 3
ttaylor63

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I'm out of town and will when I get back. What pic u need just of the motor holes.

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10-15-2012 03:07 AM  5 years agoPost 4
Carey Shurley

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I'm trying to make sure I understand the problem

are you saying that the clutch bottomed out in the clutch bell before the motor mount aligned vertically in the side frames? Is that whats happening in your case? Because thats the only thing I can think of that would prevent the motor mount from vertical alignment

your description of your fix, putting washers between the engine mount and the front of the engine would serve to move the motor slightly lower as well as the clutch.

If I correctly understand the problem, a question, when you installed the clutch, did you put washers between the bottom of the clutch and the clutch plate (which would move the clutch higher than it should be) or just use the bronze inserts included with the kit.

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10-15-2012 03:48 AM  5 years agoPost 5
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Yes when i slid motor in between frames the mount holes on carbon fiber frames & holes in alumimum mount that bolts to bottom of motor didn't line up at all.. So i found a thread that some people added some washers under the aluminum mount on each corner to raise it up some to help in getting the holes to line up better.. This is what i did...

Yes the clutch was hitting on top of clutch bell before motor was vertically lined up with holes.

I did put the spring washers under the clutch plate as well.. Do i need to remove them.. ??

I watched your build video & followed it so far. The manual shows the washers under the clucth plate as well..

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10-15-2012 04:05 AM  5 years agoPost 6
Carey Shurley

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you need the spring washers between the start shaft yoke and the clutch shoes on the top

underneath the clutch you only need the bronze inserts that come with the kit. Don't put any additional washers between the clutch and the clutch mount plate.

the clutch shoes sit on the little bronze inserts on the bottom and are float with the spring washers on the top between the clutch and the start shaft yoke

if you also put washers between the clutch/mount, it will move the clutch up where it can hit the clutch bell.

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10-15-2012 05:27 AM  5 years agoPost 7
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I have it put together exactly like it is on Page 29 in manual. But when i tried to put motor inside frames the holes didnt match up on part # 133-121 against the CF frames. The motor bracket needed to come up some more i'd say at least 2mm or so to be able to get the M3 x 10 socket head bolts in. So i put a washer under each corner between motor & motor bracket part # 133-121 to raise up the motor bracket.

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10-15-2012 06:02 PM  5 years agoPost 8
Rudy

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I just built one and have the same motor, every thing around the motor lined up great. I would pull the motor out and double check your clutch assy. Mistakes happen, I find my all the time

Rudy Ackerman Houston TX/Bend OR

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10-15-2012 09:28 PM  5 years agoPost 9
ttaylor63

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My spring washers aren't completely flat. Are they suppose to be.?

When i go to put the clutch on motor and turn the bolts the clutch bolts come out & i can turn them freely. THis is getting frustrating...

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10-15-2012 09:37 PM  5 years agoPost 10
Carey Shurley

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no not completely. The bolts bottom out on the shoulder and leave just a little gap for the shoes to swing out and move around for alignment

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10-16-2012 12:10 AM  5 years agoPost 11
ttaylor63

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Well i managed to snap one of the clutch shoe bolts off... Now have to order some new ones from Dave's. More delays...

Still not really sure why my motor wont line up with the holes in CF frames thou without having to shim up the motor plate..

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10-18-2012 01:54 AM  5 years agoPost 12
rbort

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Do this
Put the spring washers on the bolts from the top instead of on the bottom of the one way bearing holder. So move them from the bottom of that bearing holder to the top of it and the motor will line up properly.

I did this on mine, spoke with Chris Lund some time ago about it and he said doesn't matter if the spring washers are on top of or the bottom of the one way holder. 28 flights later to date, my heli is working just fine like this.

-=>Raja.

MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4210 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3280 flts
Whiplash V1-2 Hanson 300, 1555 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 393 flts

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10-18-2012 03:29 AM  5 years agoPost 13
ttaylor63

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Kewl will do. Talked with Jeff at MA & he said they are going to shave down the yoke some to solve this problem... Now i just need my clutch bolts to come in so i can get back to building...

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10-18-2012 05:57 AM  5 years agoPost 14
Rudy

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Have you checked around your local hardware stores, you should be able to find a new bolt some place local.

Rudy Ackerman Houston TX/Bend OR

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10-18-2012 07:14 AM  5 years agoPost 15
ttaylor63

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Stopped by a lawnmower repair place & they didnt have anything like that. Its kinda a special bolt that no one really stocks. I ordered some from Dave's Motors..

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