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10-14-2012 01:37 AM  6 years agoPost 41
tauscnc

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Hey,

I just remove the tubing from the engine, fuel and replace. I have tired the "T" fittings, filters, EZ fill things, etc. Nothing beats just removing the line, fueling and puttig it back on. Just my preference.

I have really adopted the KISS rule as things have gotten better and we have more choice in the hobby. I have tried many starters, batteries for them, field boxes, metal cases, glow drivers, etc. Here is what I have now and pretty much love it.

I saw this on a pic here on RR and wondered "why didn't I think of that" ... like 5 years ago! 2S 800 mah pack..works all day long and then some. Made out of 1/8" (I believe) aluminum or maybe a little thinner. Dubro fuel cap thingy on top.

Here is my starter: 4 cell 10C 4000 pack I got 3 years ago and I swear I charge it once per flying season.

Finally, After many many field boxes I got a PDY systems and its very nice. I added spacers on the top for my radio.

I also use a push glow on the helis... I will start a "KISS" thread ...I am sure there are tons of ideas out there to help us all from over thinking.

taus
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10-14-2012 03:19 AM  6 years agoPost 42
McKrackin

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I tried the pulling the tubing off the carb thing but my fuel line just doesn't feel tight enough on the carb so I secure it with a zip tie.

That's why I put the 3 way petcock inline.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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10-15-2012 05:38 AM  6 years agoPost 43
flydan

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I got the 3m tape idea from McKrackin a WILE back on HF.
To this day about 8 months ago it's still holding the header tank on like a champ... Works perfect.

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10-15-2012 02:32 PM  6 years agoPost 44
PilotPin

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That's why I put the 3 way petcock inline.
For filling and pinching off the line I like the align 3 way filter (HN6022T).

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10-15-2012 06:35 PM  6 years agoPost 45
tauscnc

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Hey,

Airplane guys have been removing the line from the engine since I started (25 yrs ago). When I was flying nitro airplanes (15+ years) we always did. I have tired the little metal clips, 3 way auto fill values, etc but nothing worked as "good old remove and put back on" method for me.

I have never had in 25 years had fuel line come off the engine...break, rip, tears, holes, etc. but never come off (knock on wood .

I do leave it a bit longer so it kind of “pushes” into the engine, not sure it makes any difference but it is a little piece of mind. Also if it feels loose I just snip off a little from the end. I generally replace my tubing every year with the fuel magent.

thanks,
taus
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10-15-2012 11:17 PM  6 years agoPost 46
McKrackin

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The nipple on my carb may be a little different than yours because it is not tight at all and if I don't use a zip tie,I can shake it off in flight....I already did....Hence the zip tie.

The nipple is an after-market add on by the way...Got it when I got rid of the regulator(which I may put back on).

I literally never use the word literally right.

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10-15-2012 11:19 PM  6 years agoPost 47
McKrackin

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On another note....I just replaced all my fuel line and it does seem a little tighter...Dubro.

Still remember the day it came off though....Zip tie stays...for now

I literally never use the word literally right.

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10-15-2012 11:45 PM  6 years agoPost 48
RappyTappy

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Be careful with the zip tie, I have seen a friends fuel line come off who did the same thing as you. The zip tie in conjunction with vibration ended up cutting through the fuel line causing it to come off in flight.

The way I get fuel line tight on the nipple is to snip off a small piece of the fuel line, use my circlip pliers to stretch it over itself and it gives it a much more snug fit an no sharp corners to cut through the fuel line. Take care.

Snapped a quick picture of what it looks like.

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10-16-2012 12:10 AM  6 years agoPost 49
McKrackin

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Thanks Rappy...I've actually done that too.

Just about had a stroke the first time I tried to get the fuel line inside the piece of fuel line.lol....

I literally never use the word literally right.

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10-16-2012 12:14 AM  6 years agoPost 50
RappyTappy

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Next, try to get a fuel line inside of a fuel line inside of a fuel line

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10-16-2012 12:55 AM  6 years agoPost 51
tauscnc

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LOL

Yes if my fuel line ever came off I also would be putting something on it to prevent that!

I pretty much have always had OS or thundertiger engines and generally use Dubro med Fuel or the proline clear one... I like that one too.

happy flying
tauseef

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10-16-2012 01:45 AM  6 years agoPost 52
McKrackin

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I went ahead and put the regulator back on too since my tuning woes a while back turned out to be a junk pipe and not a bad pump and regulator.

I would put the pump back but I lost a screw.lol....

At least my fuel line fits tight now

Only problem now.....The fuel in that header tank is all the fuel I own.lmao....Come on Wednesday and UPS man

I literally never use the word literally right.

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10-16-2012 07:40 PM  6 years agoPost 53
BobOD

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I ordered a header
That's funny, I just got back to my hotel here in Amsterdam and I was just thinking to do the same.

Team POP Secret

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10-16-2012 09:51 PM  6 years agoPost 54
tauscnc

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I'd say get rid of that extra "hanging thing" LOL... I still see more areas of failure then just on the engine.

I was just thinking why isn't one worried the fuel tubing might come off the filler...it has 3 places to fail vs just the one on the engine? We talked about it coming off the engine but what about the filler valve.

I would think the weight of the filler would also help puilling of the tube off the engine as it is thrown around in flight.

Just a thought.

taus

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10-16-2012 10:33 PM  6 years agoPost 55
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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I like taus' setup. Simple is better.

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10-16-2012 11:51 PM  6 years agoPost 56
jbiter

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Even if he takes the filler off, there should be a filter installed in it's place. I have a filter installed there on mine. Filling the fuel tank is done by popping the line off on the tank side of the filter.

Jeff

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10-17-2012 02:59 AM  6 years agoPost 57
RAK402

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Header tank installed with double sided foam tape and velcro strap for insurance.

Tank has been installed that way for about two years now, give or take.

Team KBDD/Compass Team Manger/Experience RC/Team JR Americas/WR Field Rep

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10-17-2012 05:27 AM  6 years agoPost 58
gorn

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Ive never had a header tank fail in any way in years of using them.
Ive seen line come off inside them sure, and seals leak yep, but not fail.
If you don't pre-flight your heli, and check to see obvious issues, well.....its not the header tanks fault

I always use them, and never have issues with changing tuning during flights and all that crap.
I tried a fuel magnet and hated it, made my tuning more finicky.
As soon as I took it off, needles were less sensitive and easier to dial in.

Header tanks will always be on my nitro helis

For the love of the hobby

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10-17-2012 11:51 PM  6 years agoPost 59
McKrackin

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I was just thinking why isn't one worried the fuel tubing might come off the filler...it has 3 places to fail vs just the one on the engine? We talked about it coming off the engine but what about the filler valve.
The nipple on the carb was 3/16 inch long with one single rounded rib to hold the line.

The nipples on the three way valve are 3/8 inch long with three barbed ribs to hold the line.

I can support the heli by the fuel line on the valve.

I might do away with the valve now but I don't have any fuel line right now to replace it.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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10-25-2012 04:51 PM  5 years agoPost 60
tauscnc

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Well I am gonna have to eat some words lol!

On my second flight my 90 started running really lean. Took home and dropped the engine, opened the carb and found a piece of the fuel magent stuck in the needle valve.

I am going to have to use a fuel filter.

Align 3 way filter here we come.

taus

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