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10-14-2012 04:42 AM  5 years agoPost 221
es1co2bar3

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Yea that's what Obama would inherit if he gets re-elected. Who does he blame that on?
Before we even touch on who should get the blame let see,' bush
passes up 3 tax cut in the name of the filthy rich guy
what was the purpose?. As good as i know, the sucker can
hire more people and gamble a little more with the devident.
Between the time the tax cut was pass and now, why what it was intend
to do is in reverse mode.? So if this is the case so all these
filthy rich repuplican just take disadvantage of the tax cut
and buy them self merit, isn't that what it look like in broad
daylight?.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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10-14-2012 04:52 AM  5 years agoPost 222
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You need to read this article by your friends in the press.[url}=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/obamas-claim-that-the-bush-tax-cuts-led-to-the-economic-crisis/2012/09/30/06e8f578-0a6e-11e2-afff-d6c7f20a83bf_blog.html {/url]

Here is a sample;
"But others would note the irony of Clinton citing the perils of deregulation under Bush because he also is culpable. Clinton signed into law a repeal of the Glass-Steagall law that separated commercial and investment banks — a policy shift that some have said also played a role in the economic crisis. Moreover, Clinton also signed into law the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which essentially removed derivatives contracts from regulatory oversight. By many accounts, derivatives, such as the credit default swap, were at the heart of the financial crisis.

Indeed, Clinton has admitted that he was given wrong advice about the need to regulate derivatives contracts. “I think they were wrong, and I think I was wrong to take” their advice, Clinton said of his economic advisers.

The Dodd-Frank bill tightened regulations on derivatives contracts, thus reversing the decision that Clinton — not Bush — had made."

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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10-14-2012 05:04 AM  5 years agoPost 223
es1co2bar3

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What does it mean when they ask "how do you plan on paying for that tax cut"
Good question but, it depend on which party it directed to.
__The other day this romney guy was on the campaign trail
sporting his 5 triillion$ tax cut, he claimed it'll not be
added to national debt. My gut feeling is telling me the
middle class will have to pick the TAB like we did with
the bush era tax cut.

Now just think about it, 5T.$ in cut' did he mean to tell
me he will thrinks this government to the size of a needels
eye as big as it his right now. Tell me this guy haven't
just have some crazy puss pee at the time when he thinking this
trough'; Impossable isn't it.?

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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10-14-2012 05:23 AM  5 years agoPost 224
Dennis (RIP)

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Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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10-14-2012 05:43 AM  5 years agoPost 225
Noobyflyer

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@Esco

Let's just say he paid 10% in taxes

And let's just use round numbers and say he made a million bucks one year. That's $100,000 in taxes.

Let's say you make $60,000 and pay 25% in taxes. That's $15,000 in taxes.

One INDIVIDUAL citizen pays $100,000 and the other $15,000.

Can someone please define "Fair" here?

Shouldn't YOU be more concerned about paying LESS to the government as opposed to another PAYING MORE TO THE GOVERNMENT?!

This liberal "gotcha" game is absolutely BASELESS in its premis.

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10-14-2012 05:46 AM  5 years agoPost 226
Dennis (RIP)

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@Esco

Let's just say he paid 10% in taxes

And let's just use round numbers and say he made a million bucks one year. That's $100,000 in taxes.

Let's say you make $60,000 and pay 25% in taxes. That's $15,000 in taxes.

One INDIVIDUAL citizen pays $100,000 and the other $15,000.

Can someone please define "Fair" here?

Shouldn't YOU be more concerned about paying LESS to the government as opposed to another PAYING MORE TO THE GOVERNMENT?!

This liberal "gotcha" game is absolutely BASELESS in its premis.
Thats some pretty serious math for him to work on Noob.

Its beyond him by far.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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10-14-2012 05:52 AM  5 years agoPost 227
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I just don't understand why THEY want Barack Obama to have more of our money for additional wreckless spending.

It's time to make cuts but they want to demonize and proclaim more of what they feel the government is entitled to.

You know, America has always been about working for it. These Liberal Democrats want to scheme, scam, and jive to take it from someone else.

It's not stealing if you get a majority of Congressman and a President to agree and that's B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T.

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10-14-2012 05:53 AM  5 years agoPost 228
Dennis (RIP)

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You know, America has always been about working for it.
Thats not the way it is now.

Thats why the left must be soundly defeat and thrown into the ash heap of history.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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10-14-2012 06:09 AM  5 years agoPost 229
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You know, I had NO interest in politics before 3 years ago. Even now, I don't view myself as Republican or Democrat. I just see right from wrong and the crap that has gone on in the past 3 years has forced me to take an interest in what's happening in Washington DC.

It drives me nuts that more people don't put party aside for the betterment of their own future and well being.

They sit there and throw away all sense of morality, ethics, and faith for the sake of one man or one party.

That, I believe, will end up being a majority one day and the TRUE end to the greatness of America. Whether that time is now or in the near future, I don't know, but I sure hope not.

America feels different than it did any other time in my life. I connect the dots and I see Barack Obama as the fulcrum of that significant negative change.

He needs to be defeated. Then I can go back to ignoring politics again until the next socialist comes to bat.

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10-14-2012 09:00 AM  5 years agoPost 230
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If tax cuts are on the way,expect other commodities to get much more tax added,fuel is a good one I am also waiting for all the speculators to jump in on food and influence prices big time(Wheat)next.Things are not going to get easier any time soon

Team- unbiased opinion.K.I.S.S principle upheld here

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10-14-2012 11:27 AM  5 years agoPost 231
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Very well said noob! I am so glad I have Shawmuck ignored. Breath of fresh air.

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10-14-2012 01:09 PM  5 years agoPost 232
hootowl

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Shrink government, lower taxes... lower spending. Get the debt under control.

Who do you think is more likely to do those things? Obama/Biden or Romney/Ryan?

We already know for sure Obama/Biden will not do it so is there really any other choice at this point because what good is green energy, healthcare plans and social security if the financial system collapses?

Do you think the gov will be able to pay us all when every one of us is out of work?

This is the single biggest mistake this administration has made... not focusing on gov financial responsibility.

This is not something you "Hope" to "Change". This needs to be addressed starting on Mitt and Paul's first day in office.

If Obama wins.... what do you liberals see as the future?

Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep

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10-14-2012 02:14 PM  5 years agoPost 233
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The issue is not about taxing rich people.
Right, the hidden agenda is about buying votes thru false claims.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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10-14-2012 04:32 PM  5 years agoPost 234
es1co2bar3

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We already know for sure Obama/Biden will not do it so is there really any
dont Bush cut taxes? and what happen the country almost
ruin right now we still having after effect dont it?
So what did that tell ya?' this government is to large
for tax cut, and smallen it up in one giants cut
will doom us. like romney is going to do with his
5TRL$ tax cut.

I know many in this country dont like their national pride but,
i dont mind paying i dont like the close to 50% of my earning
going to the FED and the super righ is not paying 50% of theirs.

Noobflyer: please think this in flat tax format
i pay more than romney paid in tax because it's almost 50% of
my take home money going to the FED,__ he only paid 10% or 0 sometime "ok' look at it like like this if i paid 50% per 100G$
How much you think i will pay by the time i started to make 280,000,000, let me help you here, my tax'll be one 1 1/2 of
that total number# Romney is paying 10% of the 1 1/2 of his
take home. How his he paying more than me ?

Everyone should pay 50% of their take home like i am paying no matter the number $.
Now this some fair game here

find the x value of 280,000,000
If y - x is = 10% < 280,000,000
x = to?

Now find the x value of 100,000.00 Tell who's paying less tax here.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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10-14-2012 05:27 PM  5 years agoPost 235
baby uh1

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You are correct to be upset at your tax rate but what you really should be upset over is that anybody has to pay that much!
The government should be able to run on ten percent of our pay instead of taking and wasting our money.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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10-14-2012 06:01 PM  5 years agoPost 236
Dennis (RIP)

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You are correct to be upset at your tax rate but what you really should be upset over is that anybody has to pay that much!
The government should be able to run on ten percent of our pay instead of taking and wasting our money.
Not only is the fed government rip him off, his own state is doing the same thing. Only worse.

His last report was that he had 7 cars. I would like to see him fill them all up in one day.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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10-14-2012 06:17 PM  5 years agoPost 237
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Hey,esco has more than 7 cars.....

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10-14-2012 06:18 PM  5 years agoPost 238
Dennis (RIP)

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Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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10-14-2012 06:32 PM  5 years agoPost 239
es1co2bar3

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Dennis lying is evil my man. in case you dont know.
His last report was that he had 7 cars
Dennis you'r a judas]
You're nutorious liar un-doubtfully a mug one where anyone can
pour anything in and you spills it that make you a clumsy Ahhz MUG

Back on topic.
Herman cain comb up the best tax plan 999 everyone pay 9.99 %
that what i understand from it.
but the republican forts on him] as they dont feel the party
need for the color purple in the lead

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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10-14-2012 06:37 PM  5 years agoPost 240
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I would think Cain would have done a better job in the polls than Romney.Cain should have stuck with it.I just think there was more revelations to come had he stayed in the race.Too many skeletons in that closet.

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