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08-13-2012 04:06 AM  5 years agoPost 1
AWittleWabbit

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Just kidding!

I recently coverted my 6s 450 Sport to FBL, unbelievable! I wish I tried it sooner.

I took a heli sabbatical for a while so I've only been causally (1x dally instead of 4x) keeping up on things.

So, I'm using a 7200bx, I do have a 3gx I started putting in the Sport when I decided to take my break from helis. I didn't get past dir......

Are there any FBL units that will let me change the cyclic feel on the fly? For example, my 7200bx is set to "pro" or "sport"(when practicing inverted backwards). Menu "B" in the parameter menu. Is it just expo or is it more?

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08-13-2012 04:36 AM  5 years agoPost 2
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Why not just try it without any stabilization.Get ahold of trekrider586 he did it and so did I,lots of others have did the same.It's not that hard and saves a ton of money.

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08-13-2012 04:45 AM  5 years agoPost 3
AWittleWabbit

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That's interesting. But what I want is more stability for practicing certain things and less when goofing off. Changing between presets on the ground is not hard but would wear on me quickly. I dont have the discipline to blow a whole battery practicing one thing.

I'll read up on the no FBL controller FBL out of curiosity. Thanks

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08-13-2012 05:08 AM  5 years agoPost 4
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Depending on TX brand, Vbar will let you set up completely different flight parameters that you can navigate between while in flight. You have to preset them before flight, but having 3 or 4 different banks that are independent of flight mode seems to be what you are looking for.

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08-13-2012 05:10 AM  5 years agoPost 5
johnbs8

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set the 7200bx to TX mode and then you can use dual rates or travel adjust to get your cyclic adjusted.

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08-13-2012 05:16 AM  5 years agoPost 6
AWittleWabbit

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having 3 or 4 different banks that are independent of flight mode seems to be what you are looking for.
Yes! Thanks
set the 7200bxto TX mode and then you can use dual rates or travel adjust to get your cyclic adjusted.
I really need to read things more throughly.

Thanks!

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08-13-2012 05:22 AM  5 years agoPost 7
AWittleWabbit

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Just so I understand correctly, I can use expo and d/r?

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08-13-2012 04:28 PM  5 years agoPost 8
rcflyerheli

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Again, I don't know about the Ar7200, but on the Vbar, yes you can. You can set up whatever amount of expo in each of the banks you want.

Don't misunderstand my talking about Vbars. It's just I do know with them you can do what I think you are saying you want to do.

Good luck.

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08-13-2012 04:51 PM  5 years agoPost 9
1004ron

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Just so I understand correctly, I can use expo and d/r?
Yes you can - set the AR7200BX to TX mode and you can then switch between settings on your TX.

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08-13-2012 06:26 PM  5 years agoPost 10
El Guapo

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just a heads up... every FBL controller I've used has EXPO built in. so, if you are very picky about expo... you can use the EXPO in your radio, but first step will be to set the expo to zero in the FBL controller. because they will superimpose, and you get a lot of expo.. with beastx I use the expo in the radio. in vbar I do it all the the VBAR "banks".

and on a separate note, wen you take the flybar off and don't use a FBL controller, some people call that "NOBAR"

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08-13-2012 07:59 PM  5 years agoPost 11
Enad

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The new MSH Brain lets you assign modes (beginner,sport,3d,and Hard core 3D) to different flight modes. At the flick of a switch you get just what you are asking for It's only been out a week so it may be hard to get a hold of one, and as any new product when it is released there are bound to be teething issues that will be shortly be sorted out.

I myself have one on order and it will probably be another week or two before I get it.

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08-14-2012 12:21 AM  5 years agoPost 12
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08-14-2012 03:45 AM  5 years agoPost 13
AWittleWabbit

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Thanks everyone, lots of good info.

Just what a person with a new addiction needed, to talk with others with the same but advanced addiction
and on a separate note,wen you take the flybar off and don't use a FBL controller,some people call that "NOBAR"
Thank you El Guapo, I missed that entirely, during heli-sabbatical™.

All y'all cheaters are gonna make me NOCASH!

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08-14-2012 11:27 PM  5 years agoPost 14
payne1967

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nobar is all in the set up

cheats use fbl units

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08-15-2012 12:37 AM  5 years agoPost 15
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nobar is all in the set up
Actually its not!!!
I'm sure it differs from pilot to pilot but it really is no different than any other normal set-up. There is nothing out of the ordinary.
Its simple. Find 0 pitch at 50% collective then set your max + & - collective pitch. Naturally you need to know how to mechanically set-up a helicopter.
No expo no dual rates and no flybar equals NOBAR.
Main blades are what make the difference and the EDGE fbl mains are the best performing blades for NOBAR.
FBL units are not cheating, its like going from a stick to automatic in an automobile with power assisted steering.

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08-16-2012 12:49 AM  5 years agoPost 16
AWittleWabbit

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cheats use fbl units
I'm starting to get better acquainted with fbl. Ive been slowly purging all my mental loop gains and lookup tables so I can focus solely on orientation.

I must say, it almost does feel like cheating

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08-16-2012 12:51 AM  5 years agoPost 17
heli-cuzz

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fbl will crash just as easy as anything else. Although it sure does help having HH on the swash.

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08-16-2012 01:01 AM  5 years agoPost 18
AWittleWabbit

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Yeah I hear that, it's one less(or more) thing to blame other than myself.

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08-16-2012 03:26 AM  5 years agoPost 19
GetToDaChopper

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Yep the stability a "Good" FBL system setup right can give you over everything else is truely amazing for sure......

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11-13-2012 11:51 AM  5 years agoPost 20
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Awittlewabbit
Thats what dual rates are for. You can calm it down easily that way, or make a beast out of it.

The one thing you do not need, is wicked fast servos, and tons of throw like with a flybar.

FBL in itself gives more rapid,positive response, so if you use highspeed servos and lots of throw it may be difficult to tune out with the tx. In most cases you can, but not all. My opinion + my experience.

In addition, if heli mfg's really wanted to supply us with FBL helis that needed no assistance, they could, as it has been done before, many years ago. With todays technology a helicopter could be designed to fly Nobar, and used as a trainer easily.

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