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08-11-2012 11:56 PM  6 years agoPost 41
djinni

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Dennis
SS is a bad deal. And, its going to get worse.

In the mean time, and since I paid my share into it for 50 years +, I will collect as much as I can my little friend. If you have the same available when you retire, you will collect it as well.
Yes I will, I could now because I am retired and just hit 62. But I'm going to wait, I have plenty of savings, ROI's are good, zero debt, don't need the money right now.
Some rich people do refuse to collect their SS, even though they do pay into it all their lives. I am not rich. Never have been. Never will be. I get by well enough.
You say?? I haven't met one and I know several very wealthy people, they're all on SS and Medicare. When I ask them why they collect SS and use Medicare, their response is "it's owed to me".
BTW: I don't use Medicare or Medicaid.
You will be using Medicare shorty, and don't tell me you have the V.A.
V.A. = Government Health Care.
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08-12-2012 12:08 AM  6 years agoPost 42
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yea,, right... I've heard that from half a dozen people I know, and they all lost their A$$ in the stock market. One guy was an experienced Options Trader, he lost almost half of his cash assets before he finally listened to me and got the hell out.
When did I say stock market?

You know nothing about me or my education, but automatically assume I can not handle my own finances.

Assuming is a bad idea

Just remember -- if the world didn't suck, we would fall off.

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08-12-2012 12:15 AM  6 years agoPost 43
Dennis (RIP)

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Yes I will, I could now because I am retired and just hit 62. But I'm going to wait, I have plenty of savings, ROI's are good, zero debt, don't need the money right now.
Well then. Thats great. Congrats.
You say?? I haven't met one and I know several very wealthy people, they're all on SS and Medicare. When I ask them why they collect SS and use Medicare, their response is "it's owed to me".
I know 2 rich people that have refused their SS. One is an ex brother in law. One in a present sister in law.

I do know of one other rich guy that has refused his SS. Bill O Reilly.
You will be using Medicare shorty, and don't tell me you have the V.A.
V.A. = Government Health Care.
I do use the VA. They take care of all my health care needs. I contracted CLL Leukemia (diagnosed 2 years ago) from agent orange exposure in Vietnam.

And, no. I am not collecting Veterans disability. I will not do that. I have to many old ex vets that really do need that. I don't. Just health care.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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08-12-2012 01:35 AM  6 years agoPost 44
es1co2bar3

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Wow this big chit.
Back in 08.: during the obama primary remember the fire storm
mr paul ryan suggest that we linked social security with the stock
market?
I hope you all dont have short memory

Can anyone tell me that MR, RYAN paul is not drinking some crazy cat pee.

Just what you think would'ave happen if we link (SS) with the stock market.

This is the guy who want to be our VP

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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08-12-2012 01:40 AM  6 years agoPost 45
StarFish435

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Back in 08.: during the obama primary remember the fire storm
mr paul ryan suggest that we linked social security with the stock
market? I hope you all dont have short memory

Can anyone tell me that MR, RYAN paul is not drinking some crazy cat pee.

Just what you think would'ave happen if we link (SS) with the stock market.

This is the guy who want to be our VP
Anyone but Barry Soetero 2012

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08-12-2012 01:47 AM  6 years agoPost 46
Dennis (RIP)

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Back in 08.: during the obama primary remember the fire storm
mr paul ryan suggest that we linked social security with the stock
market? I hope you all dont have short memory

Can anyone tell me that MR, RYAN paul is not drinking some crazy cat pee.

Just what you think would'ave happen if we link (SS) with the stock market.

This is the guy who want to be our VP
This has been suggested for many years with our social security system.

But, not in the way you are coming across.

Its been suggested by both Ryan and others to give workers "A Choice" of placing 2% of their SS payments into the investments (stock market or otherwise). They would be given a list of investments with grading on how reliable those investments have been over a long period of time.

Please note, this has always been a presented as a "Totally Volunteer System".

No one would be forced to participate.

Get your frickin history together escobar. You are beyond illiterate. You are just plain silly, stupid and looking to be corrected every time you bang on your keyboard.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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08-12-2012 02:11 AM  6 years agoPost 47
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Get your frickin history together escobar. You are beyond illiterate. You are just plain silly, stupid and looking to be corrected every time you bang on your keyboard
And you 're like a desperate husband trying to salvage a very disgraceful marrage,

knowing the republican control house desperately try to private
eyes social security}

This has become a serious talk to permanently run SS like the stock market, you sounded more like the little frocker with you lies.

No one will force to pay} really dennis' It look like everyone have healthscare even tho they didn't want it.Right???

You are seriously a dam MUG' just open to anything.'

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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08-12-2012 02:27 AM  6 years agoPost 48
Dennis (RIP)

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This has become a serious talk to permantley run SS like the stock market, you sounded more like the little frocker with you lies.
Not only are you illiterate with your reading history, you are illiterate with your typing as well.
No one will force to pay} really dennis' It look like everyone have healthscare even tho they didn't want it.Right???
Thats not a "choice" like the proposal for SS.

Its a MANDATE.

Got it?

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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08-12-2012 04:32 AM  6 years agoPost 49
es1co2bar3

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you spell that wrong i did not do that you little mug.
you're worst than a cheating house wife dennis.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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08-12-2012 04:49 AM  6 years agoPost 50
Dennis (RIP)

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you spell that wrong i did not do that you little mug.
you're worst than a cheating house wife dennis.
What the heck are you talking about?

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08-12-2012 05:03 AM  6 years agoPost 51
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Watch at YouTube

90% of life is "showing up"

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08-12-2012 06:17 AM  6 years agoPost 52
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I think we can replace congress with a bunch of bricks and the bricks will do a better job.

The bricks won't spend money,
The bricks won't write bills that will bankrupt America,

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08-12-2012 06:20 AM  6 years agoPost 53
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I think we can replace congress with a bunch of bricks and the bricks will do a better job.

The bricks won't spend money,
The bricks won't write bills that will bankrupt America,
And bricks will not grow so big, they start taking your freedoms and your ability to pursue the happiness away from you.

The Obummer will. He's a very large brick.

Guaranteed.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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08-12-2012 01:20 PM  6 years agoPost 54
hootowl

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Back in 08.: during the obama primary remember the fire storm
mr paul ryan suggest that we linked social security with the stock
market? I hope you all dont have short memory
So what should it be ESCo?... like it is now? SS linked to the national debt?

Realistically they need to keep SS separate but our gov, being the thieves they are... will never make sure our money is responsibly managed.

The only true "entitlements" that exist are programs that we have paid into like SS and unemployment. We are entitled to it because it's our money.

They took entitlements WAY too far when they started using taxes from everybody and created overreaching, poorly managed social programs.

Democratic liberals think they are saving the world by pouring aid, funded by the working class and the better off, into the less fortunate class.

They are doing the exact opposite. They have created generations of "beggars" who don't have the ambition to make something out of their lives.

And now they want to pursue it even further, locking in a perpetual liberal administration.

Face it.... we are over the top now and the feeding frenzy will fuel the democratic liberals re-election forever.

Stick a fork in it. The only way out of this is revolution. When the collapse occurs, we will clean house one way or another.

Mean time, be prepared. The poor won't be affected as much as the better off. You might find the better off to be more of a problem in the event of a collapse.

Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep

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08-12-2012 02:31 PM  6 years agoPost 55
baby uh1

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I think that most of you can understand that even in the worst of times the stock market has never been worth zero.
But because the money has been stolen out of it and not invested, The Federal "Social Security" Ponzi scheme is currently worth less than zero by a number so big that the zeros won't fit on this page!
Now which one is the safer investment?

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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08-13-2012 07:28 PM  6 years agoPost 56
djinni

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Dennis
I do use the VA. They take care of all my health care needs. I contracted CLL Leukemia (diagnosed 2 years ago) from agent orange exposure in Vietnam.

And, no. I am not collecting Veterans disability. I will not do that. I have to many old ex vets that really do need that. I don't. Just health care.
Dennis, you're saying you are using the V.A. because: "I contracted CLL Leukemia (diagnosed 2 years ago) from agent orange exposure in Vietnam."????

You said you were in the Navy stationed abroad a cruiser in the Gulf of Tonkin???? Here are your exact words and the post you said them in.
Dennis wrote:

I was in the Navy back in Vietnam and served aboard a guided missile cruiser (USS Providence CLG 6). That was the flag ship for the 7th fleet at the time and we carried the admiral and his staff aboard with a total of about 1100 personnel.

We did a lot of operations down in the Gulf Of Tonkin (Yankee Station). We did some of those ops with the battleship Missouri, BB-63 and the Jersey BB-62.

LINK: https://rc.runryder.com/t679641p3/
Dennis,, how could you have been exposed to agent orange when it was sprayed on the jungle foliage in Vietnam, not on oceans waves???? You do know that don't you, or has that fact escaped you. I was in Vietnam, I saw the C-123's spraying the stuff in the A Shah Valley.

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08-13-2012 07:37 PM  6 years agoPost 57
Dennis (RIP)

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Dennis,, how could you have been exposed to agent orange when it was sprayed on the jungle foliage in Vietnam, not on oceans waves???? You do know that don't you, or has that fact escaped you. I was in Vietnam, I saw the C-123's spraying the stuff in the A Shah Valley.
Right. I was a blue water sailor. As a general rule, only brown water sailors are eligible for VA benefits from agent orange exposure.

Some blue water sailors are getting VA disability from agent orange exposure. But, applications for VA disability like that for agent orange exposure for blue water sailors take anywhere from 3 to 10 years for a final resolution. Even then, its not guaranteed you will succeed. I have no desire or need to go through that with the VA and would rather leave it for those that really do need it.

I am simply thankful they are taking care of all my health care needs. Very thankful.

When my VA doc originally diagnosed the disease, he did say it was from agent orange exposure.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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08-13-2012 07:41 PM  6 years agoPost 58
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Right. I was a blue water sailor. As a general rule, only brown water sailors are eligible for VA benefits from agent orange exposure.

Some blue water sailors are getting VA disability from agent orange exposure. But, applications for VA disability like that for agent orange exposure for blue water sailors take anywhere from 3 to 10 years for a final resolution. Even then, its not guaranteed you will succeed. I have no desire or need to go through that with the VA and would rather leave it for those that really do need it.

I am simply thankful they are taking care of all my health care needs. Very thankful.
So your saying now you haven't tested positive for agent orange, am I reading that right? But in your post you explicitly said you had Leukemia due to agent orange exposure.

So which is it??

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08-13-2012 07:58 PM  6 years agoPost 59
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So your saying know you haven't tested positive for agent orange, am I reading that right? But in your post you explicitly said you had Leukemia due to agent orange exposure.
Well, I am not aware that anyone can be tested for agent orange exposure.

But, they can be tested for the diseases associated with it.

The numbers of Vietnam vets that contracted those diseases are really very high. Thats why the VA finally had to cave and recognize there is a problem there.

I have to admit, I have no proof I contracted CLL leukemia from agent orange exposure. I am not willing to pursue it with the VA. If I was destitute, I would have no choice but to pursue it. I am not destitute. I am just thankful they are taking care of my health care which is very little by the way. I am healthy in all other respects.

CLL Leukemia is the most friendly types of leukemia you can get. Its almost always in remission and the symptoms are rather mild. If it ever does come to the surface, then there are some rather harsh treatments to get it back under control and about three weeks in a hospital bed being very, very sick. Thats why I have to go to the VA every 6 months to get a blood test to make sure my white blood cells are within perimeters. Mine always checks out to be on the high side. But, still within safe limits. So far. Occasionally, this type of leukemia does come out of remission and dramatically affect your health. If not treated, it will kill you. There is no getting around that.

Leukemia is a blood cancer. There is no ultimate cure for any type of leukemia. The form of leukemia I have is called :Chronic" In other words, if it ever does get carried away and I get treatment to get it under control, it could always come back in full form requiring further treatment. Especially with the elderly. With each treatment, your lifespan gets shortened. The treatments are harsh with bone marrow transplants and chemotherapy right behind that.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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08-13-2012 08:09 PM  6 years agoPost 60
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BTW: I have made contact with several ship board crew that served aboard the USS Providence at the same time I did. All of them were found on the Internet. We had well over 1000 crew members aboard ship at that time.

I have found 18 of them that have contacted several forms of leukemia and one that contacted Hodgkin disease. None received disability benefits from the VA. All got full VA health care.

4 of them are dead from those diseases. The rest are still kickin.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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