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08-10-2012 05:22 PM  5 years agoPost 41
HeliOCD

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the instructor should have never allowed him to try flying it
..I think the instructor needs a instructor..

Its all earth!

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08-10-2012 05:24 PM  5 years agoPost 42
McKrackin

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Awesome...Nothing like a little test and tune on a new TX in a public situation.lol....

I'm not trying to change your mind because your type never changes their mind...even after someone is hurt.
I saw the few park flyer enthusiasts defending the attackers of that poor girl in Tampa.

I'm just stating my opinion and I have as much right to it as you do...Moreso because I don't risk any lives but mine with my practice.

I'm not saying you don't have a right to prefer flying in public...I'm saying I think it's wrong.

You will certainly not change my mind so this is a good jumping off point

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08-10-2012 05:36 PM  5 years agoPost 43
basmntdweller

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Even slightly injuring one person is inexcusable.
Apply that comment to those of us at IRCHA. It doesn't matter who it is or where someone gets injured. I agree 100% with your statement quoted above so how can anyone even risk flying anywhere because the potential is always there. IMO, it doesn't matter if it is pilot error or mechanical error or radio failure. If you aren't willing to take that risk, you should quit flying and get your legislators to pass laws to ban all flying. Of course I not serious about banning it but I am sure that there are people out there tha feel what you are doing is unsafe. It is all a matter of opinion and last I checked you weren't the one who decides who's opinion is the right one for everybody. We all have to make that judgement call ourselves. I feel I am flying in a safe and responsible manner. You don't, that's your opinion but then you have never seen my field I fly from. It is larger and more secluded from high density populations than my local club field.

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08-10-2012 05:45 PM  5 years agoPost 44
Buzzin Brian

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I'm going to start a business building bubble wrap homes.

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.

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08-10-2012 05:49 PM  5 years agoPost 45
basmntdweller

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Awesome...Nothing like a little test and tune on a new TX in a public situation.lol....
Again, new as in new to this particular heli but not brand new. I was just moving my all helis over to this particular TX. You assume you know the whole story from one little sentence or one short video. You can't know it and I can't know it either! You own assault rifles so you must be irresponsible and wreckless as someone posted earlier. I know better than that! You are more likely to be the safety officer at the local range!

You might want to check the thread on the Tampa incident. I believe I commented in it on how stupid they were to be flying in a busy park. I on the other hand fly in an empty deserted sports park.

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08-10-2012 06:08 PM  5 years agoPost 46
TMoore

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If we had used the McKrackin doctrine back in the day, model helicopters wouldn't exist today because they are inherently unsafe. These comments are coming from the same man that espoused the virtues of return springs on throttle arms, and wouldn't start his heli within reach of his TX.

The video isn't out of the ordinary in the least based on my experiences. I've trained way more pilots in much worse situations than the one in the video on public flying sites, on grass fields and asphalt strips, hell, we used to fly in K-Mart parking lots under the lights back in the day. No one got hurt and no one damaged anything other than their own helicopters. As far as never using a 3D helicopter to train on, what should they use, a Cricket? We used those too.

Sims are a recent developments comparitively speaking and I always recommend their use but they aren't mandatory by any means. IMHO, the title of the thread is way over the top. I've seen all that before, in person and I'm not shocked by it in the least. Maybe the venue choice is not the best but the learning experiences are typical. Buddy boxing is out for learning to hover, upstairs it is fine but not close to the ground. We tried it and it is a dismal failure. Training gear and patience is the key to learning without a sim. The video is a snaphot in time and not particularly alarming.

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08-10-2012 06:08 PM  5 years agoPost 47
McKrackin

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Apply that comment to those of us at IRCHA
That doesn't apply...Are you just faking being that thick?

EVERYONE at IRCHA came there for the helis and accept the risk...If you hurt someone at IRCHA,you hurt a willing participant.

NO ONE at the park comes to see any helis and likely have no idea there will be any.....If you hurt someone at a park,you are guilty of an assault.

I AM FOR banning ALL motorized models at ALL public parks.
It's not a right....

People should be able to walk in a park without getting hit by an out of control toy....THAT IS A RIGHT

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08-10-2012 06:14 PM  5 years agoPost 48
McKrackin

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It is all a matter of opinion and last I checked you weren't the one who decides who's opinion is the right one for everybody.
Exactly right so why are you still harping on about your "right" to fly in public?

I think it's wrong and that's my opinion and you aren't the one that decides if that is right for me.

I will not change my life time of knowing right from wrong to accommodate your toy.

Go fly in a preschool playground if you want...

Me,I'll be voting for whoever wants to regulate the hobby and put some licensing into effect with some training and evaluations.

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08-10-2012 06:15 PM  5 years agoPost 49
Wave

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EVERYONE at IRCHA came there for the helis and accept the risk...If you hurt someone at IRCHA,you hurt a willing participant.
A LOT of spectators at IRCHA are NOT aware of the risk.

They should shut IRCHA down based on your risk theory's.

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08-10-2012 06:16 PM  5 years agoPost 50
McKrackin

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Maybe so if that's the case.

I'm sure everyone at IRCHA at least knows there are helis there.

Can you say that about people in the park?

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08-10-2012 06:17 PM  5 years agoPost 51
TMoore

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The McKrackin Doctrine would eliminate IRCHA. Nothing exists outside of his backyard.

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08-10-2012 06:21 PM  5 years agoPost 52
Wave

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...and what about the reckless monkeys that night fly at IRCHA by the light of a flashlight?

I'm sure a LOT of the pilots are NOT comfortable with someone flying a heli that cannot even be seen for parts of the flight.

...and the organizers let it continue. If someone gets hurt by the night flyers they should not forget to sue the AMA and IRCHA for allowing reckless behavior year after year.

Thats a million dollar lawsuit easy.

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08-10-2012 06:23 PM  5 years agoPost 53
McKrackin

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IRCHA is fine...It is the proper place to fly and enjoy helis.

Central Park is NOT.

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08-10-2012 06:23 PM  5 years agoPost 54
TMoore

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Spotlight flying is different. I'm not an advocate of that practice because once the heli is outside of the FOV of the spotlights, it's a projectile. Totally unsafe.

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08-10-2012 06:25 PM  5 years agoPost 55
basmntdweller

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I'd venture to guess that a good portion of AMA sanctioned clubs are public property. I know my club is on public land. Better get your AMA rep to start shutting down all clubs on public land.

Matt


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08-10-2012 06:28 PM  5 years agoPost 56
HeliNutAndy

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Uh oh. I love it "opinions". This is where a persons true colors surface. We all now know who the communists are.

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08-10-2012 06:29 PM  5 years agoPost 57
McKrackin

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A flying club on public property is different than some random jerk with a heli in some public park where children play.

You know the difference but enjoy acting stupid....or I assume it's an act.

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08-10-2012 06:31 PM  5 years agoPost 58
Buzzin Brian

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Regulations solve everything......... Right??? Assault??? A strong word, and not correctly used. I think parks should be banned!!! Someone might pick up a stick and hit someone else with it! Or dust could blow into someones eyes!!! Stop this nonsense of having a place to have fun NO MATTER WHAT!!! Swings CAN KILL a kid if he falls off. Same could be said for the marry go round! That makes kids dizzy, and some drunk adults too in the middle of the night. We should stop it ALL!!! How dare we try to live and let live!!!

Oh, and I too flew in deserted parks on occasion. EVERY person I personally know that has had an incident with an RC toy was there on their own. More people will be hit by a moron in a car TODAY alone than will be hit by a heli this year. BAN CARS NOW!!!!

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.

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08-10-2012 06:41 PM  5 years agoPost 59
McKrackin

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Assault??? A strong word, and not correctly used. I think parks should be banned!!! Someone might pick up a stick and hit someone else with it!
That is a textbook assault

This is just a difference of opinion on safe places to do specific things....Nothing personal.

They're toys...Relax.

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08-10-2012 06:44 PM  5 years agoPost 60
McKrackin

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More people will be hit by a moron in a car TODAY alone than will be hit by a heli this year. BAN CARS NOW!!!!
Wanna talk %

How many cars vs how many helis

And cars require training and licenses.
For a person to be hit by a car,a law almost certainly has to be broken by the driver or pedestrian.

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