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08-10-2012 02:18 PM  6 years agoPost 21
McKrackin

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I saw no others at the park so where was the big danger. It looked completely deserted to me. I would fly there anytime as long as it was deserted like that. The pilot definitely needs some sim time but I learned to fly helis before there were sims so I may have a different outlook. I learned to fly in several similar locations as long as no one was around.

IMO, no big deal there.
See?
Enough said.

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08-10-2012 02:20 PM  6 years agoPost 22
McKrackin

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Useless to say anything else.
The entitled ones will always feel entitled to risk MY life for THEIR enjoyment.

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08-10-2012 02:22 PM  6 years agoPost 23
co_rotorhead

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and let's not deliberately change the context of other people's words either.
Change the context? The statements I quoted were complete. He didn't qualify either statement by saying SOME park flyers are selfish and irresponsible, nor did he say that SOME park flying was reckless. His statements regarding park flying and park flyers made no distinctions whatsoever. Hence my comment about making generalizations.

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08-10-2012 02:29 PM  6 years agoPost 24
McKrackin

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nevermind....who cares anyway?

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08-10-2012 02:34 PM  6 years agoPost 25
GScott

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The problem with flying at a deserted park is that it can change in an instant. Just because there was no one there when you took off doesn't mean a kid or a family pet will not show up minutes later.

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08-10-2012 02:55 PM  6 years agoPost 26
basmntdweller

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I saw no others at the park so where was the big danger. It looked completely deserted to me. I would fly there anytime as long as it was deserted like that. The pilot definitely needs some sim time but I learned to fly helis before there were sims so I may have a different outlook. I learned to fly in several similar locations as long as no one was around.
IMO, no big deal there.

See?
Enough said.
How the hell are any lives being risked when no one is there?
I guarantee many more lives will be at risk next week in Muncie than the guy in the vid was risking. Put him a little side of show center in Muncie and turn him loose. You probably think that is safe though!
I've seen way more dangerous flying at my club by the geezer patrol than anywhere else.

Yes, people can show up at anytime at a park but that is why you have someone with you while you are flying to spot for you.
For all you know, that may have been the back yard of the pilots estate. I seem to recall someone else flying in their backyard in their videos. The only thing that would say its not his backyard would be the trash receptacles.

Too many here just speculate on what is really happening and where.

Matt


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08-10-2012 02:56 PM  6 years agoPost 27
Thatlumox

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Negligent? No.
That's just how they do things over there. (Wherever the hell "over there" is.)

"I'm a dirt torpedo!"

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08-10-2012 03:07 PM  6 years agoPost 28
TMoore

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Back before sims, this is how we learned to fly helis.

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08-10-2012 03:21 PM  6 years agoPost 29
nick.gruber

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Ah, the power of a sim...and the money it saves too. Makes you wonder what these people think!?

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08-10-2012 03:28 PM  6 years agoPost 30
Richardmid1

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Back before sims, this is how we learned to fly helis.
Exactly.

Did all you guys start flying perfectly right from the start?!

60% of the time, it works every time!

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08-10-2012 03:43 PM  6 years agoPost 31
McKrackin

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I guarantee many more lives will be at risk next week in Muncie than the guy in the vid was risking
Every single person at Muncie will be there for the same reason...Helis.

ONE idiot in that park was there for helis and every single other person there has no idea that a flying bush hog can maul them to death at any moment.

People at flying clubs KNOW there's danger about and where it will likely be.

People in parks are there to play with their pets and their kids....Not dodge flying bush hogs.

I do fly in my backyard...1100 feet by 600 feet of private property where it is actually against the law for you to sneak up on my blind side.
Did all you guys start flying perfectly right from the start?!
Of course not but it was a couple years before anyone ever saw me hover...I would never try it if anyone was at risk or even around to possibly be in harms way.

It is NOT necessary to fly in public parks.
If you don't have a PLACE to fly...You don't have a RIGHT to fly.

People in the city don't go thrashing around town on dirt bikes and ATVs...Same principle.

I have NEVER flown a heli off my property except once with an MSR.
If I didn't have a safe private place to fly,I would never have dreamed of getting something as frivolous and unnecessary as a remote controlled toy helicopter....But I do.

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08-10-2012 04:35 PM  6 years agoPost 32
basmntdweller

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I fly regularly at a sports field down the street from my house. I only fly if no one else is at the field. I can see in pretty much all directions that anyone is likely to approach from. I see nothing wrong with this but I'm sure you think I am just seconds from killing and maiming hundreds of people!
Some people are just overly cautious. Some have a bit more daring side. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion however extreme it may be.
Not too different than all the 3D haters that kept claiming how dangerous and bad for the hobby it was!

Matt


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08-10-2012 04:43 PM  6 years agoPost 33
HeliOCD

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...On my way to a picnic in the park...
Some people are just overly cautious
....Ready for a stray heli or two.....

Its all earth!

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08-10-2012 04:49 PM  6 years agoPost 34
McKrackin

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Some people are just overly cautious. Some have a bit more daring side.
You're so daring with OTHER peoples safety.

You cannot see in all directions...Your eyes are locked on the heli.
Even a spotter will likely be watching the heli.
I see nothing wrong with this but I'm sure you think I am just seconds from killing and maiming hundreds of people!
Even slightly injuring one person is inexcusable.
...On my way to a picnic in the park...
That is HILARIOUS.lol....

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08-10-2012 04:52 PM  6 years agoPost 35
GyroFreak

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Considering the angle he went in at the last moment, damage was really small. Mains looked good, tail blades OK, fly-bar not twisted, tail boom intact.
Usually my crashes when learning always took out mains. And I never flew in public places.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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08-10-2012 04:56 PM  6 years agoPost 36
Buzzin Brian

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"And you can also buy 1000's of different military grade assault rifles.
Most people who buy them are reckless and irresponsible."

Seriously? I mean.......... Seriously???? First off out of context, and not true at all!!! Don't judge all gun owners based on 1 morons inability to control himself. And secondly what does that have to do with the video at all??? Nothing!

Sorry dude, don't meant to jump on the bandwagon here. But it is generalizations like that that start arguments. One person will never be a complete analogue for everyone else. That's just life.

Brian

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.

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08-10-2012 05:05 PM  6 years agoPost 37
McKrackin

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Seriously? I mean.......... Seriously???? First off out of context, and not true at all!!! Don't judge all gun owners based on 1 morons inability to control himself. And secondly what does that have to do with the video at all??? Nothing!
Please follow along and read it all.

He said that they sell a whole line of park flyer models and print park flyer magazines so it must all be perfectly fine.

That is the totally untrue generalization.

I am a gun owner and have some assault rifles in the arsenal.

I don't take those out in public either.

The Align work towel gets some odd action

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08-10-2012 05:14 PM  6 years agoPost 38
basmntdweller

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Indianapolis IN

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I'm sorry you are unable to see anything but your heli when you fly but my peripheral vision is pretty decent. All it takes is a little movement. I have seen deer, birds popping up out of the deep grasses and cars pulling in on the far side of the field. When the cars pull in, I land and pack up. It's not rocket science McKrakin, a little common sense and a bit of awareness of your surroundings is all it takes. In the 12 years I have been flying at this field, only one person has snuck up on me and that was while I was reprogramming a 450 to a new TX so I wasn't watching for anyone. He had seen me flying and wanted to have a look.

Matt


Stupid people have no idea how stupid they are!!!

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08-10-2012 05:19 PM  6 years agoPost 39
HeliOCD

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The Align work towel gets some odd action
Hey McKrackin.. Is that the new Align 50 Cal...

Its all earth!

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08-10-2012 05:19 PM  6 years agoPost 40
Daved Gutierrez

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It's obvious the new Guy has absolutely no idea of how to control the helicopter and the instructor should have never allowed him to try flying it atleast until new guy understood the basic controls, very irresponsible from the guys with experience. When I started flying I was very lucky to have instructors that had safety first in their minds.

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