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08-09-2012 05:56 AM  6 years agoPost 1
seldredg

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I'm on the diagnose screen to confirm the travel and direction for the controls, and nothing moves. ?? Binding occured without incident. The transmitter is receiving telemetry OK. I bound the transmitter to a an MCX2 and it worked. I have the red and blue wires to the motor disconnected. Have rechecked, rebound, etc. Any thoughts? This receiver has built in failsafe modes. Could that be doing someting?

Align 500 EFL Pro. HC3SX powered from ther Align ESC on head 4/battery plug. Servos not connected (thought I tried that). Connection to PC reads OK.

UPDATE: The manual indicates the failsafe is on the throttle channel only and occurs when the the connection is lost between the transmitter and the receiver. Since with the throttle/power cable goes from the ESC to the HC3SX, not the receiver, there is no cable in the throttle slot on the receiver. I imagine this causes the failsafe condition. If so, how do I get around this?

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08-09-2012 08:21 AM  6 years agoPost 2
DEMONjoe

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Easy: the cabeling is wrong! The ESC cable is only plugged into the HC's port 3, if you use sats directly on the HC without main Rx. In your case you have to plug it into the throttle channel on your Rx.

But if that is the reason for the Diagnose not showing anything...I do not think so. There must be something else...or...you did not have power on the Rx.
Is there any red LED blinking code? If it blinks one time in rythm, it is a missing signal from the Rx. That's the only error which can lead to a not responding Diagnose page.

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08-09-2012 05:55 PM  6 years agoPost 3
seldredg

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I changed the ESC cable to the throttle slot on the RX, and nothing has changed. The unut is flashing red very fast (no pattern).

I found the frame rate set to 22ms and DSM@. I changed to 11ms and DSMX. I also changed the sat cable. Nothing changed. Does the satellite receiver have a light also?

Manual says to power the unit directly, not from the RX. Do I need to add/split a cable?

Thanks.

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08-09-2012 06:12 PM  6 years agoPost 4
Jockobadger

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Try running a separate power supply to the HC3. Also, have you got your sat plugged into the right socket on the Rx? There are two I believe and one of them has to have a sat plugged into it. Finally, why not try using sats directly into the HC3? I changed to sats and it's great - much easier to program, etc. JH

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08-09-2012 06:34 PM  6 years agoPost 5
seldredg

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Would I separate the power and throttle signals from the present ESC cable?

I'm using the RX because I'm using telemetry (presently).

It appears that Spektrum provided a DSMX receiver and a DSM2 satelite. I'm going to call them and see if that is a problem. I read something about mismarked components on Helifreak. Will search for the thread.

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08-09-2012 07:14 PM  6 years agoPost 6
Stephen Born

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It appears that Spektrum provided a DSMX receiver and a DSM2 satelite.
Are you sure it is a DSM2 satellite? There should be a large X on the satellite.
I'm going to call them and see if that is a problem.
That is a problem.

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08-09-2012 08:38 PM  6 years agoPost 7
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08-10-2012 12:01 AM  6 years agoPost 8
seldredg

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Both receiver are marked DSM2, but based on what I learned, the receiver is DMSX and the satellite is DSM2. The satellite lights up if conncted directly to the HC3SX, but not if connected to the receiver, and the receiver apparently doesn't work without the remote connected. HH is sending another remote.

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08-10-2012 08:13 AM  6 years agoPost 9
DEMONjoe

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The unut is flashing red very fast (no pattern).
Ok, blinking very fast, so you have the unit connected to the PC's Diagnose or Trim tab in this stage? In Diagnose and Trim page the servos get center signals and do not respond to your Tx. Here you should only take care about setting up the Tx to the unit and the mechanics perfectly symmetric.
Switch to any other tab and try again, the servos will move then.

Regarding the power supply, the unit itself does not care actually. But it is recommended to servo the main consumer, the servos, as direct as possible. So in your case of cabeling with external Rx you do not have to put the supply on the HC, but if you want to do it 100% perfect, yes, split the ESC/BEC cable into power and signal. Lots of people do that.
In case you have a second BEC on your speed controller, also connect this to the HC directly.

NOTE: a common thing is that the BECs are clocked. This may lead to issues when having one connected to the Rx and the other one to the fbl unit (no matter which). We had this experience several time before, so if you do not split the cable and go to Rx with one line and HC with the second and you get some interference stuff, now you know why Just in case.

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08-10-2012 05:52 PM  6 years agoPost 10
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Thanks, Joachim. I'll split the cable then. Scott

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08-11-2012 03:47 PM  6 years agoPost 11
DEMONjoe

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Did you get the servos to move when not in Diagnose or Trim page?

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08-24-2012 04:49 AM  5 years agoPost 12
seldredg

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Solution: The satellite was the wrong type. DSM2 instead of DSMX. With proper satellite, everythng came to life.

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08-24-2012 04:59 AM  5 years agoPost 13
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The satellite was the wrong type. DSM2 instead of DSMX. With proper satellite, everythng came to life.
Let the fun begin.

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