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08-03-2012 08:24 PM  9 years ago
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hootowl

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Shed delivery
I had a 14 x 32 building delivered yesterday. Check out the magic trailer.

Watch the video and see how it makes all the difference.

Watch at YouTube

Here are the still pics..

http://www.getdieselpower.com/misc/...val_Pics/album/
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08-03-2012 10:41 PM  9 years ago
cap231ex

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Your gravel bed that they set the shed on should have been compacted , I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't settle 6" down into the gravel.

It's a shame because it looks to be a very nice little shed.
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08-03-2012 11:37 PM  9 years ago
Dave Willis

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Isn't that Trailer called a "Jade"?Futaba AMA 6679 IRCHA 675 VHA 11
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08-04-2012 12:01 AM  9 years ago
ticedoff8

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I didn't use compacted gravel for my shed - it worked fine.

If the floor of the shed is flat on the gravel, it will distribute the load and there are no real pressure points.

Even it is using rails as a "foundation" to sit on the gravel, I would also assume no one is going to be dancing in the shed - so not too much vibration to cause it to settle on the rails - especially if it is decomposed granite or 1/8" to 1/4" pea.
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08-04-2012 01:13 AM  9 years ago
hootowl

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Sink 6"? Are you for real?
Do your research on stone compaction. Its controversial. I do agree compacting is better but since the depth of the stone is 6", your saying the shed will sink to the ground?

Seriously, I installed a shed once on 2 feet of uncompacted stone. That was 14 years ago. I don't live there anymore but I'm friends with the new owner. It didn't sink. I can get you pics if you like.
Here is a pic of that shed install. You can see the landscaping timbers built up... it's filled with uncompacted stone. That shed is 14 x 28

3/4 stone is considered 85% compacted right off the truck. If it sinks 15% were talking less than an inch in six inches.

If you saw one sink it was most likely the ground under the stone that was the issue. My ground is hard and doesn't take on moisture where the shed is. I also graded the ground so the water would fall downhill and I added a drain pipe.

Put landscape fabric down to act as a stabilizer and keep the stone separated from the dirt..

Add 25 ton of stone...

Spread and screed..

Add dirt..

Here are a few links to shed builders recommendations...

http://www.storagesheds.org/2009/07...hed-stone-base/

http://www.affordablesheds.us/products/sheds.php

http://skipsonline.com/p_shed_buyers_guide.html

Here is an engineers take on standard 3/4" or "57" stone...
No. 57 stone is an easily consolidated material but it is not self-consolidating. Uncompacted or dumper deposits of No. 57 stone can settle about 1" per foot of thickness. No. 57 stone should be placed in lifts and consolidated using conventional compaction techniques. It is very obvious when the stone is consolidated and locked into place, so visual inspection is adequate.

The appropriate lift thickness depends on the type of compaction employed. For light sled tampers, the loose lift thickness should be no more than 6 inches. For hoe rams and remotely controlled rollers, the loose lift thickness should be on the order of about 8 inches. For full-size vibratory (operator driven) rollers, the lift thickness could be up to 12 inches.

Richard L. Allen, P.E.
Sr. Geotechnical Engineer
Bowser-Morner, Inc. - Toledo, Ohio
From.. http://www.iccsafe.org/iccforums/pa...fid=6&tid=22055

1" per foot.

Remember the stone is completely covered by the building so water does not wash it down. Water washing out the fines is a big contributor to settling.
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08-04-2012 04:08 PM  9 years ago
hootowl

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All Done
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08-04-2012 04:45 PM  9 years ago
jgunpilot

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Those Amish really know how to put up a barn.
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08-05-2012 02:29 AM  9 years ago
hootowl

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I agree.Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep
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08-05-2012 11:03 AM  9 years ago
DougsRC

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Thats a Good Lookin shed, I would call it a "Mini-Barn"--- shed doesn't do it justice
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08-05-2012 01:23 PM  9 years ago
Ronald Thomas

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That shed is BAD A$$!!!Team MikadoUSA 480XXTreme, 550SX, 600SX, 700XXTreme, 800XXTreme!!
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08-05-2012 01:28 PM  9 years ago
hootowl

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Thanks. More pics..

Here is a video of them doing the roof..

Watch at YouTube

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08-05-2012 01:52 PM  9 years ago
JPhillips

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Very nice! Are you going to live in that thing or just build helis?
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08-05-2012 02:06 PM  9 years ago
hootowl

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Place to store my lawn and garden stuff.Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep
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08-05-2012 10:20 PM  9 years ago
Erwin Atchison

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Very nice Hootowl!Your fun starts here!
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08-06-2012 01:36 AM  9 years ago
Learn to Fly

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For the price you said that looks super high quality. For sure looking into this for our studio shop. Thanks again for the info
Jeff
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08-06-2012 12:43 PM  9 years ago
SSN Pru

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Nice barn Hoot!

I wish I could afford a building that large!

I went to a local shed company that gets their sheds from the Amish in PA. They were EXCELLENT quality. Unfortunately, their prices mirrored that quality! I ended up building my own 10 x 16 shed for about 60-65% of the cost of a similar shed from the company.

If I had the funding, though, I would have bought an Amish shed in a heart beat.

One question, though. Since when do Amish use vehicles and nail guns?
Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!
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08-06-2012 01:03 PM  9 years ago
hootowl

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SSN Pru,

That's about right cause they charge about 30% to build on site.
You saved at least that much but that's the labor you saved. They gotta make a living and grow the business.

Jeff... my pleasure.

The Amish are changing. Some maintain the old ways but most have no choice to survive.

Sorry the pics aren't showing right now. My web host just informed me they lost a server.

Thanks Erwin. Missed you at HOD. Just heard about your brother. Very sorry for your loss. We lost our daughter last year on July 29.

Mike
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08-09-2012 02:29 AM  9 years ago
Erwin Atchison

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Mike sorry to hear about your daughter as well.

My brothers accident happened about the same time as I was leaving the very last fun fly I attended. Although that is not the reason I have stopped going. Things have just gotten so busy at the shop I have a tough time leaving. I do miss the fun flys even just to hang out. Now the RV just sits out back the shop. The only time it was used this year was for a few racers to stay over here for a weekend event.

Mitt may not be the perfect politician but Regan is gone and anyone is better than the current occupier of Pennsylvania Ave.
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08-09-2012 12:02 PM  9 years ago
mrex

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very nice
Great Shed
I'm Shedenvious
thanks & enjoy
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08-09-2012 12:45 PM  9 years ago
SSN Pru

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yep, I figure it's all sweat equity. I don't mind that type of work, either.Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!
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