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08-06-2012 06:22 PM  6 years agoPost 201
djinni

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Dennis
Under the Obummer, we have become the highest corporate taxed country in the world today by passing Japan.
Dennis, you are a delusional moron, the Corporate tax rate is the lowest in decades.

With Tax Break, Corporate Rate Is Lowest in Decades

Total corporate federal taxes paid fell to 12.1% of profits earned from activities within the U.S. in fiscal 2011, which ended Sept. 30, according to the Congressional Budget Office. That's the lowest level since at least 1972. And well below the 25.6% companies paid on average from 1987 to 2008.

http://=http://online.wsj.com/artic...2233215330.html

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08-06-2012 07:10 PM  6 years agoPost 202
flustercluck

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Dennis- Under the Obummer, we have become the highest corporate taxed country in the world today by passing Japan.Dennis, you are a delusional moron, the Corporate tax rate is the lowest in decades. With Tax Break, Corporate Rate Is Lowest in Decades Total corporate federal taxes paid fell to 12.1% of profits earned from activities within the U.S. in fiscal 2011, which ended Sept. 30, according to the Congressional Budget Office. That's the lowest level since at least 1972. And well below the 25.6% companies paid on average from 1987 to 2008.
http://=http://online.wsj.com/artic...2233215330.html
So Djinni...because Obama & the Democrats are great tax-cutters, getting that corporate rate down low like that, the corporations have been hiring like crazy, right??

What's the unemployment rate down to now? Like, maybe 3.5%?

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08-06-2012 07:15 PM  6 years agoPost 203
Dennis (RIP)

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So Djinni...because Obama & the Democrats are great tax-cutters, getting that corporate rate down low like that, the corporations have been hiring like crazy, right??

What's the unemployment rate down to now? Like, maybe 3.5%?
I rest my case.

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08-06-2012 08:48 PM  6 years agoPost 204
djinni

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DennisYou got no case, every Industry in the USA is subsidized to some extent, If you go and listen to the Oil Company CEO's when they were testifying before Congress and they were asked why they should continue to get Subsidizes when they were making the largest profits ever. They said it won't be fair to single them out and end their subsidizes because every other Industry gets subsidized.

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So Djinni...because Obama & the Democrats are great tax-cutters, getting that corporate rate down low like that, the corporations have been hiring like crazy, right??

What's the unemployment rate down to now? Like, maybe 3.5%?
Globalization,, the goal of any Corporation is to maximize profits and minimixe cost, US employees cost to much, whether you're in a union or not. What do you think workers in China, Vietnam, Cambodia, etc get paid? They get 1 maybe 2 dollars an hour and many have to work 10 hour days 6 days a week with no health benefits, no worker safety laws, they can be fired at an time for any reason.

You righites want Free Enterprise, Free Markets,, well you go it. Corporations are Free to create Enterprise where the labor is the cheapest, and there are few if any laws protecting workers or the environment. American workers are Free to Market themselves to the few Compaines left in the USA, for whatever wage that Company will offer.

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08-06-2012 10:42 PM  6 years agoPost 205
Phaedrus

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then define the legal and fiscal framework to ensure it happens equally to all.
This is the fatal logical flaw that most conservatives fall prey to. The idea that liberals/progressives want everybody to end up the same regardless of personal efforts, advantages, etc. This is just simply untrue and is the major cause of much of the nonsense the right spews. So your question has no answer since the premise is flawed.

Having said that, what I as a progressive think is that I do not want to live in a country where we allow people to die because they cannot afford healthcare, where people act morally superior because they are fortunate enough to have healthcare, where people think that anyone less fortunate than themselves is in that position due to some failing such as being lazy, stupid, morally corrupt, etc.

But I also recognize that much of what has made me successful was because I had opportunities to succeed. I had a decent public education, I went to college (state school) on the GI Bill, I got loans for school that did not bury me financially, I was able to take advantage of the opportunities that life presented me, and I was healthy enough to be able to work.

I just think that we are all in this together and as a society will do better if we work together. I look to the time of WWII as the model of America pulling together to get the job done. What happened to that ideal??

Too many conservatives seem to think that all it takes to be a success is just work hard and if you are not a success it means you did not try. That is such a simplistic filter to view the world through that I almost cannot comprehend how people can see the world that way.

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08-06-2012 10:52 PM  6 years agoPost 206
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This is the fatal logical flaw that most conservatives fall prey to. The idea that liberals/progressives want everybody to end up the same regardless of personal efforts, advantages, etc. This is just simply untrue and is the major cause of much of the nonsense the right spews. So your question has no answer since the premise is flawed.
At the current level of "Out Of Control Spending" and increase in government growth, there may not be a choice.

We will all be equally miserable.

Except for those that created the problem.
Having said that, what I as a progressive think is that I do not want to live in a country where we allow people to die because they cannot afford healthcare, where people act morally superior because they are fortunate enough to have healthcare
Ah, my friend.

Thats already in place as law and supported by the supreme court.

Just in case you didn't know, its called ObummerCare.
But I also recognize that much of what has made me successful was because I had opportunities to succeed. I had a decent public education, I went to college (state school) on the GI Bill, I got loans for school that did not bury me financially, I was able to take advantage of the opportunities that life presented me, and I was healthy enough to be able to work.
Well, thats great. Congratulations.

Keep working pal. The loosers are going to need your tax dollars.
I just think that we are all in this together and as a society will do better if we work together. I look to the time of WWII as the model of America pulling together to get the job done. What happened to that ideal??
This is not the same culture as it was back in WWII.

Not even close. Here is just one of the many, many reasons why:

Too many conservatives seem to think that all it takes to be a success is just work hard and if you are not a success it means you did not try. That is such a simplistic filter to view the world through that I almost cannot comprehend how people can see the world that way.
That simplistic view is yours and your pals on the left.

You really need to listen to Rush Limbaugh more.

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08-06-2012 11:45 PM  6 years agoPost 207
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You really need to listen to Rush Limbaugh more.
Why? To get tips on how to buy pain killers without getting caught? If Rush was so great he would run for office, but then again he wouldn't get enough votes to run for mayor of a city.

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08-07-2012 12:07 AM  6 years agoPost 208
Phaedrus

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And the dog keeps chasing its tail. Once again Dennis trots out evidence of his intransigent ignorance. So we see yet another masterful Photoshop of the offending 56 seconds taken out of context from a 46 minute speech.

Yes, Dennis, I succeeded in no small part to my public education, where they taught me the one who does not place well in a contest is the loser and that sometimes the looser you make something the more likely you are to lose it.

But please, continue to lecture us on the meaning of the Constitution and other intricacies of social and economic policy. It amuses me that someone who can barely spell even simple words or string together a coherent thought without the use of silly graphics gleaned from the Internet feels qualified to make the statements you make.

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08-07-2012 12:12 AM  6 years agoPost 209
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They are some really dumb people in politic it take someone to make someone rich the poor for instant if someone dont invest in me i'll get no where the people who dwell on what he president said
need to get a life, and learn the system how person become successfull.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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08-07-2012 12:25 AM  6 years agoPost 210
flustercluck

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Djinni, I like your liberalism and progressivism. I'm learning a lot here. So let's review, and you instruct me some more:
Globalization, the goal of any Corporation is to maximize profits and minimixe cost
You agree or disagree with this? Pls elaborate.
US employees cost to much, whether you're in a union or not.
Why is this?? Kindly tell us.
What do you think workers in China, Vietnam, Cambodia, etc get paid?
And we should care...why? Do you sit around and ponder what "workers" in other countries and systems get paid?
They get 1 maybe 2 dollars an hour and many have to work 10 hour days 6 days a week with no health benefits, no worker safety laws, they can be fired at an time for any reason.
Does this make you feel a bit...guilty, maybe? Maybe one answer would be for our Awesome President to go to these countries and fix their economies and policies, like he's fixed ours?
You righites want Free Enterprise, Free Markets, well you go it.
And Progressives prefer...what? State control? A Command economy??
Corporations are Free to create Enterprise where the labor is the cheapest, and there are few if any laws protecting workers or the environment. American workers are Free to Market themselves to the few Compaines left in the USA, for whatever wage that Company will offer.
Well I see you have a grasp of economics; but your point is....what?

Let's return to my question: we know Obama is the best friend busines and capitalism has ever had, right? You agree with that?

So could it be that the unemployment rate really is 3.5%, and those evil righties are just lying to everybody?

Personally, that's what I think it is...you agree?

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08-07-2012 01:47 AM  6 years agoPost 211
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What do you think workers in China, Vietnam, Cambodia, etc get paid? They get 1 maybe 2 dollars an hour and many have to work 10 hour days 6 days a week with no health benefits, no worker safety laws, they can be fired at an time for any reason.
How could this be? They all live in socialist, worker's paradises! Just like the "progressives" want for us all!
Or could it be that they are just farther down the path we are traveling to poverty for all?

And BTW Phaedrus, You should share your degrees with someone that didn't work in school, like Esco! It’s not fair that you keep all of those accolades for yourself! You are just one of the people that won life's lottery and got a diploma.
Unless you are too Greedy to share?

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08-07-2012 01:55 AM  6 years agoPost 212
Dennis (RIP)

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And BTW Phaedrus, You should share your degrees with someone that didn't work in school, like Esco! It�s not fair that you keep all of those accolades for yourself! You are just one of the people that won life's lottery and got a diploma.
After all, you did not earn that yourself.

Somebody else did that.

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08-07-2012 01:55 AM  6 years agoPost 213
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Once again demonstrating your total failure to understand the point being made. Equality of outcome is not the endpoint, equality of opportunity with some minimum level of outcome for all is the desired goal.

So, does everyone deserve to have a Ph.D.? No. But is it in the best interest of society to have everyone at least have a decent education so they can operate in our complex world? Yes, I think it is.

Is it in our own best interest to have as healthy of a population as we can where people do not die because they either do not have insurance or the insurance companies refuse to cover a life saving operation? Yes, I think it is. Does that mean everyone should get into the Mayo Clinic for free for life, no it does not.

But these are complexities and nuance that you folks on the right have proven repeatedly you have no ability to grasp. Life is simple for you, as it needs to be, since anything too complicated cannot be expressed on a bumper sticker or a snappy little Photoshop picture.

My comments pertained to both Dennis and BabyUH1.

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08-07-2012 02:09 AM  6 years agoPost 214
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They are some really dumb people in politic it take someone to make someone rich the poor for instant if someone dont invest in me i'll get no where the people who dwell on what he president said
need to get a life, and learn the system how person become successfull.
What the he11 is this dude trying to say?

This is the type of person that votes Barry Soetero and one of the only reasons he is in office.

Watch at YouTube

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08-07-2012 02:31 AM  6 years agoPost 215
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Once again demonstrating your total failure to understand the point being made. Equality of outcome is not the endpoint, equality of opportunity with some minimum level of outcome for all is the desired goal.
Thats not possible. If it were, then those that are lazy, worthless SOB's that don't give a sh#t would have to be financed by honest, hard working Americans who do give a sh#t.

Tell me how that could be done otherwise please.
So, does everyone deserve to have a Ph.D.? No. But is it in the best interest of society to have everyone at least have a decent education so they can operate in our complex world? Yes, I think it is.
That would be nice. But, do you really beleive our kids are getting a fair shake at the inner city schools?

I don't think so. Especially minorities. The drop out rates are horrific.
Is it in our own best interest to have as healthy of a population as we can where people do not die because they either do not have insurance or the insurance companies refuse to cover a life saving operation? Yes, I think it is. Does that mean everyone should get into the Mayo Clinic for free for life, no it does not.
That also would be nice. But, do you lie to the American people, and sign into law legislation that has not even been read by the law makers and will end up costing three times more than projected?

Is THAT how you fix it?
But these are complexities and nuance that you folks on the right have proven repeatedly you have no ability to grasp. Life is simple for you, as it needs to be, since anything too complicated cannot be expressed on a bumper sticker or a snappy little Photoshop picture.
I will give you credit that some of the position we are in now with out of control spending and a government that is to big to manage itself ran by law makers that really don't give a sh#t except for there own agenda's is not all the fault of the left. But, a large share of it is.

As far as the snappy little Photoshop pics, you just gave me more incentive to post more. After all, they are very popular and are well on their way to be the most popular threads on RR.

You are welcome in advance.

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08-07-2012 02:36 AM  6 years agoPost 216
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Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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08-07-2012 03:35 AM  6 years agoPost 217
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since anything too complicated cannot be expressed on a bumper sticker or a snappy little Photoshop picture
Sorry! We'll try to simplify it for you so even a pseudo intellectual like you can understand.

You are a hypocrite that endorses socialism only when it is accomplished with other people's money.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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08-07-2012 04:10 AM  6 years agoPost 218
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You guys win. I'm done with this waste of time.

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08-07-2012 04:21 AM  6 years agoPost 219
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And you are someone who has no idea what socialism is or how it works.
Ah, I see.

The old loony lefty talking that you know nothing and I know everything.

I see now.
You only know what Fox "News" and Rush feed you, which explains your limited capacity to understand anything beyond the most simplistic slogans.
Ah, I see.

The old loony lefty Fox News and Rush Limbaugh fall back loony lefty talking point.

Tell us. Whats YOUR favorite?

MSNBC?
You see, I put my money where my mouth is while you and Dennis sit and spew your nonsense about how YOU support all those lazy good for nothings. What a joke.
A joke ??

Yeah, that is rather funny.

You really do need to get on the Comedy Channel.

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08-07-2012 12:52 PM  6 years agoPost 220
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If socialism is so great, why is it that none of the socialists in the Whitehouse pay their taxes?

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