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07-29-2012 10:05 PM  8 years ago
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Scalia Opens Door for Gun Regulation
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July 29, 2012

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Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, who is often characterized as the most “conservative” member of the Court, said on Sunday the Second Amendment allows government to regulate firearms.

“It will have to be decided in future cases,” Scalia said on Fox News Sunday. He claimed there are legal precedents from the days of the Founding Fathers that outlaw “frightening weapons” that must be recognized.

Scalia was vague, but said that although the Second Amendment specifies the right to own firearms, during the time of the founders there were “some limitations on the nature of arms that could be borne.” In response to a question about limiting so-called assault rifles and large ammunition magazines, he said it “will have to be decided” if the government will outlaw them.

Scalia’s remarks arrive as the government gears up an intense propaganda campaign to reimpose the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004.
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07-30-2012 10:10 PM  8 years ago
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fwiw..

Odd...

The way the second is written precludes ANY govt. interference with keeping and bearing arms....NO amount or type are specified, so, under original intent,ALL are exempt from regulation.....

Pesky thing, that Constitution....

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07-30-2012 10:45 PM  8 years ago
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The way the second is written precludes ANY govt. interference with keeping and bearing arms....NO amount or type are specified, so, under original intent,ALL are exempt from regulation.....

Pesky thing, that Constitution....
Unfortunately, idiots like Scalia are being fooled and prompted by the left.

He brings into the mix what he calls "Originalism". In other words, what the founders meant at the time they wrote the constitution.

Of course, that could mean anything in the constitution does not apply today because our world has changed so much. In this case, we have much, much bigger and better guns than we did when the constitution was written. Sorry, but thats a liberal interpretation and throws out the entire constitution as meaningless today.

But, is it? Really?

I don't think so. The way I read the constitution today, everything in it applies to then and now. After all, we do have a government that has grown beyond reason, creates debt, then uses tax increases to decrease the debt, then creates more debt. Then, passes legislation and signs into law huge, huge tax spending bills that the overwhelming majority of citizens are against, then allows illegals to flood over our borders in fact signing executive orders to make it easier with less law enforcement. Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

I would say the constitution applies today as it was written.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
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07-30-2012 11:17 PM  8 years ago
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Ironic.

A picture of Reagan in a post about regulating guns.
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07-30-2012 11:23 PM  8 years ago
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Reagan quotes:
"You won't get gun control by disarming law-abiding citizens. There's only one way to get real gun control: Disarm the thugs and the criminals, lock them up and if you don't actually throw away the key, at least lose it for a long time... It's a nasty truth, but those who seek to inflict harm are not fazed by gun controllers. I happen to know this from personal experience."
"Our nation was built and civilized by men and women who used guns in self-defense and in pursuit of peace. One wonders indeed, if the rising crime rate, isn't due as much as anything to the criminal's instinctive knowledge that the average victim no longer has means of self-protection."
"There are those in America today who have come to depend absolutely on government for their security. And when government fails they seek to rectify that failure in the form of granting government more power. So, as government has failed to control crime and violence with the means given it by the Constitution, they seek to give it more power at the expense of the Constitution. But in doing so, in their willingness to give up their arms in the name of safety, they are really giving up their protection from what has always been the chief source of despotism -- government."
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07-31-2012 12:00 AM  8 years ago
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It was Governor Ronald Reagan of California who signed the Mulford Act in 1967, "prohibiting the carrying of firearms on one's person or in a vehicle, in any public place or on any public street." The law was aimed at stopping the Black Panthers, but affected all gun owners.

Twenty-four years later, Reagan was still pushing gun control. "I support the Brady Bill," he said in a March 28, 1991 speech, "and I urge the Congress to enact it without further delay."
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07-31-2012 01:42 AM  8 years ago
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It was Governor Ronald Reagan of California who signed the Mulford Act in 1967, "prohibiting the carrying of firearms on one's person or in a vehicle, in any public place or on any public street." The law was aimed at stopping the Black Panthers, but affected all gun owners.

Twenty-four years later, Reagan was still pushing gun control. "I support the Brady Bill," he said in a March 28, 1991 speech, "and I urge the Congress to enact it without further delay."
Thats what politicians do,current President included.Its called flip floping.
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07-31-2012 04:19 AM  8 years ago
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Fwiw..

Comparison is odious....Reagan made many mistakes (amnesty)...Did flip flop on gun "control".....But he was So much closer to on target than the last few nincompoops that hold the office that I can't help myself.....

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07-31-2012 05:21 AM  8 years ago
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How about if the supreme court upholds the 2nd amendment but only the weapons of the time when it was written.Maybe we will get to keep a flintlock rifle or pistol for protection.If we are really lucky a percussion cap weapon.My trust in this government is completely gone.
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07-31-2012 05:23 AM  8 years ago
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Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
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07-31-2012 05:28 AM  8 years ago
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How about if the supreme court upholds the 2nd amendment but only the weapons of the time when it was written.Maybe we will get to keep a flintlock rifle or pistol for protection.If we are really lucky a percussion cap weapon.My trust in this government is completely gone.
Good point.

That is the falsehood of Scalia's point of "Originalism" which says that what was written in the constitution only pertains to the times it was written in.

You see how Scalia's point of argument in favor of "Originalism" can easily make the entire constitution not applicable if interpreted that way? In fact, if the constitution was interpreted that way, then ALL laws can be interpreted that way, of course making ALL laws not applicable.

Thats bullsh#t as Madbob9 easily points out.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
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