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07-26-2012 08:20 PM  8 years ago
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mforester

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What happened to the N9?
Was looking to buy a new .90 nitro model and went with the MA Whiplash since it looks like the N9 is no longer sold. What happened that these are no longer being produced and are there plans for a successor?
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07-26-2012 09:16 PM  8 years ago
sonnyhad

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The older N9 model was no longer a viable product in the new Synergy company owned by Matt Botos. Somewhere in the future we may see another new N9, but i dare say it won't be for a couple of years. There has been talk of 3rd party vendor's making parts to support the old N9 but you'd have to search for them. Matt has released the cad drawings to a couple that I've read about and you can pick up a used N9 at a pretty good price.Bald Pilots usually wear hats!
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07-27-2012 06:56 PM  8 years ago
gorn

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I know of 2 new in box N9 kits, plus parts all new.
No spare crown gears though.
Contact http://www.perthrc,com.au

Tell em Gorn sent you.
For the love of the hobby
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07-27-2012 08:01 PM  8 years ago
bkervaski

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It's discontinued, you won't be able to find spares.Team Synergy Factory Specialist / Scorpion / Thunder Power / Byron's Fuels
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07-27-2012 08:23 PM  8 years ago
mforester

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Thanks for the info, not looking to buy obsolete hardware just wondering why it was discontinued as it looked like a great model.
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07-27-2012 08:30 PM  8 years ago
sonnyhad

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The Crown gear wasn't the best design in that model.Bald Pilots usually wear hats!
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07-27-2012 11:33 PM  8 years ago
Scott Anderson

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This is from Matt himself from another N9 post
Guys,
The N9 was designed in 2004 by Jason Krause under business ownership of Stephen Fan. The N9 was release in 2006 and had many issues that were addressed by aftermarket manufacturers. These issues included, old style fan hub that would never install straight, non concentric torque tube ends, tail gears that strip, tail hubs that fail, plastic main blade grips that fail, crown gears that strip easily, clutch shaft that would bend in flight, clutch shaft that needed dial indicating and bending true out of the box, fragile landing gear, and last but not least... Heavy! By today's standards, the N9 is an old design. I did not make any of the business decisions surrounding the original Synergy RC Helicopters company but I do have control over whether it succeeds in the future.
When I acquired Synergy I had a choice to make. Either rename the company to my liking or keep the Synergy brand name. I decided to keep the Synergy brand name because it had a good reputation for customer service with a decent following. Had I renamed the company the N9 would have perished in 2010. With this decision I inherited the N9 and all of it's problems.
After experiencing the N9 crown gear issues, as well as the issues I encountered with a prototype crown gear driven N5c. I also made the conscious decision to not use crown gears in any of my new designs. You may notice that there is a crown gear design in the N5c manual that never got released. The reason for that is because the prototype had the same issues as the original N9 design. Had I been successful I would have been able to justify making crown gears for both N5c and N9.
Synergy since 2010 is not the same Synergy that started in 2004. As you can see by looking at the designs I have released, they are completely different and yes, they do share many of the same parts(not by luck).
If I could produce 20pcs of crown gears at a time I would love to supply this part to the market. The minimum amount I can run of almost any part is 500pcs. When you look at the numbers, this decision is very easy. However, I realize the customers would be upset so it is not a decision I take lightly.
As Rototerrier stated, every helicopter has a lifespan. Every manufacturer has to cut the cord at some point in time as technology and designs improve and leave old designs to perish. I can not justify investing money in a helicopter that has a long history of problems with it's design. I do plan on releasing a new 90 size nitro helicopter but the only feature I would like to maintain is the canopy.
I do not want to be the one to drive the stake through the N9's heart but I guess it has to be done.
Best Regards,
Matt

https://rc.runryder.com/t688444p1/ here is the link from the post about the N9

Hope this info will help.
Synergy R/C Helicopter Field Representative
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