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07-26-2012 07:46 PM  8 years ago
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Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
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07-26-2012 09:00 PM  8 years ago
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You guys are making arguments like saying seatbelts are useless because people still die in car wrecks. While nothing short of total elimination of all guns from the planet will stop these sorts of incidents, can anyone explain what is wrong with making them a little more difficult to commit??
Let's make buying cars much more difficult. That would make all of the killings by drunk drivers "more difficult to commit". Never hear the libs talk about that because car ownership isnt in the Bill of Rights. They only want to talk about controlling our Constitutional right to bear arms. They dont like the idea of the public having the ability to possibly protect themselves from their idea of a "utopian" police state. Pure and simple.

Where does the CONTROL end? When does punishing the 99.999999% of the public for the bad things the other 0.000001% does stop?
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07-26-2012 09:17 PM  8 years ago
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St. Louis-area lawmaker raffles off same type of gun used by Colorado shooting suspect
There has been a lot of interest in the AR 15, especially since the shootings in CO.......
For those of you not familiar with the rifle, it is used primarily for target shooting, hunting, and self defense.

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Rep. John C. McCaherty
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I'm not familiar with the AR 15 but I thought it was designed for the military as a weapon of war.
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07-26-2012 09:29 PM  8 years ago
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I'm not familiar with the AR 15 but I thought it was designed for the military as a weapon of war.
If you want to get technical, almost all firearms were built for use by the military in the wars. Just like pistols and shotguns and on and on and on. War is why there has been so much advancement in the design of firearms.

But what does that have to do with anything? A person can die just as quickly with a pistol or a shotgun as with an AR15 or any other rifle. You can kill a person with a car, knife, bat or any other object just as quickly.

When the incident in Colorado happened he started with a shotgun, then switched to his AR15, when that jammed he used a pistol. But for some reason everyone concentrates on only the AR15. I guess they feel it is ok to use the others, just not the AR15.

And if you try and go for the "well the AR15 can hold a hundred rounds, so can a shotgun or pistol with the correct magazine.

I personally use my AR15 for target shooting and when I get the chance I will use it to shoot varmints and other critters.
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07-26-2012 09:33 PM  8 years ago
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I'm not familiar with the AR 15 but I thought it was designed for the military as a weapon of war.
You thought wrong....that would be the M16.
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07-26-2012 09:38 PM  8 years ago
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If you want to get technical, almost all firearms were built for use by the military in the wars. Just like pistols and shotguns and on and on and on. War is why there has been so much advancement in the design of firearms.
Thats not true. A significant amount of firearms are designed for target practice, competition shooting, hunting and custom designed/built for private use.

There are many, many weapons used by private owners that are seldom, if ever used on the battle field.
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07-26-2012 09:56 PM  8 years ago
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07-26-2012 10:28 PM  8 years ago
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Thats not true. A significant amount of firearms are designed for target practice
Initially all firearms were created for the wars. The revolver, the semi auto pistols like the 1911, rifles and shotguns.

Today some guns are created solely for competition shooting, but all firearms started off as weapons created for the wars.

Why did they invent the cartridge, to help out soldiers out shoot the muzzle loaders. Why did they create the semi auto, to help our soldiers out shoot the breech loaders. Why did the build full auto, to help out soldiers out shoot the semi auto's. All firearms evolved to help soldiers out shoot other soldiers, plain and simple.
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07-26-2012 10:35 PM  8 years ago
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40 Reasons to Support Gun Control
(Apparently derived from the essay by Michael Z. Williamson.)

1. Banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, and Chicago cops need guns.

2. Washington DC’s low murder rate of 80.6 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Arlington, VA’s high murder rate of 1.6 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control.

3. Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are “just statistics.”

4. The Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban, both of which went into effect in 1994, are responsible for the decrease in violent crime rates, which have been declining since 1991.

5. We must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree at any time and anyone who would own a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid.

6. The more helpless you are the safer you are from criminals.

7. An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you.

8. A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.

9. When confronted by violent criminals, you should “put up no defense — give them what they want, or run” (Handgun Control Inc. Chairman Pete Shields, Guns Don’t Die - People Do, 1981, p. 125).

10. The New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns; just like Guns and Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery.

11. One should consult an automotive engineer for safer seatbelts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a surgeon for spinal paralysis, a computer programmer for Y2K problems, and Sarah Brady [or Sheena Duncan, Adele Kirsten, Peter Storey, etc.] for firearms expertise.

12. The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1791, refers to the National Guard, which was created by an act of Congress in 1903.

13. The National Guard, funded by the federal government, occupying property leased to the federal government, using weapons owned by the federal government, punishing trespassers under federal law, is a state militia.

14. These phrases,” right of the people peaceably to assemble,” “right of the people to be secure in their homes,” “enumeration’s herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people,” and “The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively, and to the people,” all refer to individuals, but “the right of the people to keep and bear arms” refers to the state.

15. We don’t need guns against an oppressive government, because the Constitution has internal safeguards, but we should ban and seize all guns, thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendments to that Constitution.

16. Rifles and handguns aren’t necessary to national defense, which is why the army has millions of them.

17. Private citizens shouldn’t have handguns, because they serve no military purpose, and private citizens shouldn’t have “assault rifles,” because they are military weapons.

18. The ready availability of guns today, with waiting periods, background checks, fingerprinting, government forms, et cetera, is responsible for recent school shootings,compared to the lack of school shootings in the 40’s, 50’s and 60’s, which resulted from the availability of guns at hardware stores, surplus stores, gas stations, variety stores, mail order, et cetera.

19. The NRA’s attempt to run a “don’t touch” campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda, and the anti-gun lobby’s attempt to run a “don’t touch” campaign is responsible social activity.

20. Guns are so complex that special training is necessary to use them properly, and so simple to use that they make murder easy.

21. A handgun, with up to 4 controls, is far too complex for the typical adult to learn to use, as opposed to an automobile that only has 20.

22. Women are just as intelligent and capable as men but a woman with a gun is “an accident waiting to happen” and gun makers’ advertisements aimed at women are “preying on their fears.”

23. Ordinary people in the presence of guns turn into slaughtering butchers but revert to normal when the weapon is removed.

24. Guns cause violence, which is why there are so many mass killings at gun shows.

25. A majority of the population supports gun control, just like a majority of the population supported owning slaves.

26. A self-loading small arm can legitimately be considered to be a “weapon of mass destruction” or an “assault weapon.”

27. Most people can’t be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by because they can be trusted.

28. The right of online pornographers to exist cannot be questioned because it is constitutionally protected by the Bill of Rights, but the use of handguns for self defense is not really protected by the Bill of Rights.

29. Free speech entitles one to own newspapers, transmitters, computers, and typewriters, but self-defense only justifies bare hands.

30. The ACLU is good because it uncompromisingly defends certain parts of the Constitution, and the NRA is bad, because it defends other parts of the Constitution.

31. Charlton Heston as president of the NRA is a shill who should be ignored, but Michael Douglas as a representative of Handgun Control, Inc. is an ambassador for peace who is entitled to an audience at the UN arms control summit.

32. Police operate with backup within groups, which is why they need larger capacity pistol magazines than do “civilians” who must face criminals alone and therefore need less ammunition.

33. We should ban “Saturday Night Specials” and other inexpensive guns because it’s not fair that poor people have access to guns too.

34. Police officers, who qualify with their duty weapons once or twice a year, have some special Jedi-like mastery over handguns that private citizens can never hope to obtain.

35. Private citizens don’t need a gun for self-protection because the police are there to protect them even though the Supreme Court says the police are not responsible for their protection.

36. Citizens don’t need to carry a gun for personal protection but police chiefs, who are desk-bound administrators who work in a building filled with cops, need a gun.

37. “Assault weapons” have no purpose other than to kill large numbers of people, which is why the police need them but “civilians” do not.

38. When Microsoft pressures its distributors to give Microsoft preferential promotion, that’s bad; but when the Federal government pressures cities to buy guns only from Smith & Wesson, that’s good.

39. Trigger locks do not interfere with the ability to use a gun for defensive purposes, which is why you see police officers with one on their duty weapon.

40. When Handgun Control, Inc., says they want to “keep guns out of the wrong hands,” they don’t mean you. Really.
Gun control is like fighting drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to buy cars.
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07-26-2012 10:48 PM  8 years ago
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I hope this is not what you think thehud. What a load of crap !
A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.
Are they nuts! The woman with the smoking gun is morally superior to the "dead" one any day. You should ask every woman you know what she thinks of that statement.
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07-26-2012 10:54 PM  8 years ago
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Thomas, please note, I am a gun rights activist. Every one of those 40 items on that list is an example of the idiocy in the gun grabbers "logic" in their arguments to curtail our rights.Gun control is like fighting drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to buy cars.
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07-26-2012 11:04 PM  8 years ago
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40 Reasons to Support Gun Control
(Apparently derived from the essay by Michael Z. Williamson.)
THAT is the single biggest list of bullsh#t I have ever seen on gun control.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
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07-27-2012 12:21 AM  8 years ago
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TheHud,
I love the 40 reasons why! That just shows how stupid people think, and I knew you weren't one of those people.
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07-27-2012 01:10 AM  8 years ago
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If you want to get technical, almost all firearms were built for use by the military in the wars.
I really didn't want to get technical. The congressman stated the AR15 is "used primarily for target shooting, hunting, and self defense". That's very confusing to us so called idiots. We can easily distinguish my Grandpas hunting gun from the AR.
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07-27-2012 01:18 AM  8 years ago
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Dont hurt who haven't hurt yet !!! we still got time dismantle gun.
So all these gun-di-lero trihump all over the forum about gun
what if one of you mom and dad or a sister or a brother was among
the victim at the batman theatre would you all still shout more please???
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07-27-2012 01:38 AM  8 years ago
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Absolutely. If I am being shot at, I want the ability to shoot back. Those movie folks should have all been armed.
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07-27-2012 01:58 AM  8 years ago
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Good post Hud! I love the irony!Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!
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07-27-2012 01:58 AM  8 years ago
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Dont hurt who haven't hurt yet !!!
Is that why you support the abortionists in the whitehouse?
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!
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07-27-2012 02:20 AM  8 years ago
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what if one of you mom and dad or a sister or a brother was among
the victim at the batman theatre would you all still shout more please???
Yep.
We can easily distinguish my Grandpas hunting gun from the AR.
oh no...its those evil black guns.....my AR is no different than my 30-06 hunting rifle...they are both semi auto, function the same and can both be made to carry hi cap mags....get over yourself.
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07-27-2012 02:44 AM  8 years ago
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My grandpa hunted with a BAR!Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!
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