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12-06-2012 09:58 PM  5 years agoPost 101
deafheliflyer

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Arizona

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I was getting tail wag at high speed collective inputs only to find out it resembled a high gyro gain..

Access the "secret menu" and lower the rudder gain two or three points and the helicopter is flying perfect now..

Just my .02 cents..

Crash-Prone and overcoming it!!!

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01-03-2013 01:44 AM  5 years agoPost 102
Eleven_Bravo

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I LOVE mine. Did I mention how much I LOVE the 130X.

I purchased this heli and crashed it on its 8th flight. I will admit the first 8 flights had me grinning from ear to ear. Now the tail will not hold at all. I replaced all the tail gears after the first crash. The tail still did not hold damaging the new set of gears. I was told to take apart the tail servo and clean it and the tail still does not hold. I bought it when they first came out and I am still trying to solve the issue. I even went into the gyro programming and raised and lowered the tail gain with no change in the tail it still does not hold AT ALL.

I am not a blade hater I love my 450X to the point of fighting over it because of how well it flies. My 450X is smooth and stable like my 50s yet nimble and aerobatic with enough E power to make me grin.

I also love my v1 MCPX I have 6 batts and a parallel board I have flew that lil bird to the point of wearing out two main motors and love it.

I have never had so much trouble with a heli in my life I HATE my 130X and if it didnt cost so much I would return it with instructions on where and how to insert it there.

ENGAGE!!

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01-03-2013 02:12 PM  5 years agoPost 103
BJames111

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San Diego, California

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I'm sorry to hear that you're having a hard time with your 130x. Did you give our product support a call? Clearly, there is something wrong with your 130x. There is always the option of sending it in for repair if you can't find out where the problem is coming from.

I know you mentioned that you replaced the gears, but did you check to make sure that they are not slipping? Hold the tail rotor still with one hand, and gently try to turn the main rotor blades. If they turn easily, then one of them is stripped.

I'm more than happy to help you figure this out. I love my 130x and fly it quite a bit.

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01-03-2013 03:17 PM  5 years agoPost 104
mbarhsi

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Flagstaff, AZ

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I HATE mine. Did I mention how much I HATE the 130X.

I purchased this heli and crashed it on its 8th flight. I will admit the first 8 flights had me grinning from ear to ear. Now the tail will not hold at all. I replaced all the tail gears after the first crash. The tail still did not hold damaging the new set of gears. I was told to take apart the tail servo and clean it and the tail still does not hold. I bought it when they first came out and I am still trying to solve the issue. I even went into the gyro programming and raised and lowered the tail gain with no change in the tail it still does not hold AT ALL.
Aw, quitchyer bitchin' and figure it out. This is a stone cold simple heli. There's pretty much only two reasons the tail won't hold. Your gears are stripped...and stripped also means the D shaped hole in the C/D gear might be rounded out. You can't see that with just a visual inspection. Or your tail servo is bad. Horizon has been absolutely PATHETIC keeping tail servos in stock, so it's an excellent reason to toss on a DS35 servo with the Microheli mount. Everyone should do this anyway. It really makes the tail much, much better and the servo is much more durable than the craptastic stock linear servo. One other thing you should check is that the tail servo mount is slid back just enough on the boom that you have a slight "nose right/against torque" pitch setting when the servo is neutral. That means the leading edges of the tail blades are angled in towards the boom a few degrees.

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01-03-2013 04:33 PM  5 years agoPost 105
jschenck

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La Vista, NE.

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3rd reason could be the tail grip bearings. I've seen that issue with some 130's here.

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01-07-2013 12:08 AM  5 years agoPost 106
Eleven_Bravo

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BJames111, The gears were not slipping I replaced all 4 of them just to be sure though. I replaced them because the crown gear in the front had a broken tooth and it produced a rough spot when that point was passed. The new set of gears do not slip on the shafts either but the crown gear has broken teeth again. As soon as I applied throttle to do a climbout to test the tail it started spinning out of control ten seconds into the life of the new gears the resulting crash broke teeth off the crown gear. Also thank you for your offer to help figure this out.

mbarhsi, Thank you sir I think you may have given me my solution. Being 8 flights old I never thought my tail servo could possibly be bad. If its true they cant be kept in stock then they must be easily killed in a crash. My not so local hobby shop has microheli mods for the 130X and MCPX maybe they have the microheli tail mount and servo upgrade. If not I will try a stock servo just to see if it cures my 130X headache. I did check the tail servo mount it has not slipped and is in the correct position.

jschenck, Thanks for the tip I will check and replace the tail grip bearings if necessary.

I am off tue, wed, and thursday I will see if I can find the needed parts and will post the results. Thanks again for everyones help!

ENGAGE!!

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01-07-2013 02:58 PM  5 years agoPost 107
mbarhsi

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Flagstaff, AZ

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I replaced them because the crown gear in the front had a broken tooth and it produced a rough spot when that point was passed. The new set of gears do not slip on the shafts either but the crown gear has broken teeth again. As soon as I applied throttle to do a climbout to test the tail it started spinning out of control ten seconds into the life of the new gears the resulting crash broke teeth off the crown gear
Notice a recurring theme? Buy the metal A (crown) gear and never have this problem again.

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01-10-2013 01:52 AM  5 years agoPost 108
Eleven_Bravo

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Salisbury,NC

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Did I mention how much I HATE my 130X no just kidding it seems to be fixed now. After replacing a tail boom and all the gears again I was reminded how fustrating it is to work on.

I was watching YT videos looking for the solution and ran across a video of tips for 130X owners to check if their heli isnt flying properly. Dude said to twist your tail boom that it could be splintered and or cracked. I thought nothing of it just made a mental note to try it next time I passed my 130X on my way to get a beer. I had never heard of this only how to check the gears to see if the D is stripped out of the center of them. My boom looked perfect till I gently twisted it revealing a split in the seam and some major damage(obviously crash damage) on the right side.

They did have the metal bevel gear upgrade in stock this time. They did not have the microheli tail parts in stock but they were on the way so I purchased a stock tail servo so I would have my bases covered. They said I wouldnt need it after seeing my boom but in my mind 17 dollars for the servo would save me 2 hours of driving and gas tomorrow if the servo was the problem.

I spooled it up under my motion lights in the dark so I couldnt really give it a proper test flight just some fast pitch pumps which it handled with ease. I will know for sure in the morning.

Thanks for your help and motivation to get my 130 flying my poor MCPX will get a rest now maybe.

ENGAGE!!

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01-15-2013 10:58 AM  5 years agoPost 109
Eleven_Bravo

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After a few flights on my 130X after its fixed heres my thoughts.

Where can I get more batteries for this thing?? Is the first thing I think.

I beat this lil heli as hard as I could and threw down a harder and lower flight than with my 450X. It handled my poor attempts at pyro flips. It handled me purposely over pumping the collective during tic tocs and rainbows it handled me doing fast hurricanes. The tail would not let go even with my fast sideways flight ending with me burying the aileron just to I could hear the resulting blade farts in the roll it completed.

The title of the thread asks is the blade 130X a POS??? NO Absolutely NOT I am very thankful to those that motivated me to fix it.

I will say this I am an experienced builder that has built several 50 sized nitro helis. This lil heli requires more attention to detail than I give it credit for. I was lazy with my attention to detail because it is such a tiny heli and missed a split tail boom. I bet lots of you on this thread are complaining about this bird because you have cracked booms and or cracked splintered main shafts causing undesired flight performance. Mine looked perfectly fine till I twisted it and my boom was so bad im surprised the tail would stay on the heli.

I am sorry for rambling but I think you should give this heli a chance and learn its issues so you know what to look for and repair after a crash. I sure am glad I did.

ENGAGE!!

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01-15-2013 01:44 PM  5 years agoPost 110
jschenck

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La Vista, NE.

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I've seen the tail boom get cracked and you can't see it. Check out how much you can twist a new one vs. a cracked one. Sure fire way to see of the boom is cracked. It does affect the tail performance, a lot if it's really cracked.

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01-15-2013 09:54 PM  5 years agoPost 111
Eleven_Bravo

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You are 100% correct you could easily twist my tail fin 90 deg in either direction with almost no resistance. It is when I twisted it that the cracks showed themselves. Otherwise my tail boom looked like new.

The new one is so solid you are met with resistance the moment you try to twist it.

It made such a differnece in the heli that the tail would only hold in a hover any collective or cyclic input and it would start spinning in circles. Now it holds no matter what you do.

I do not remember the release date but I purchased it within a week of them hitting shelves. Two days later only 8 flights old I crashed it damaging the tail boom. So however long thats been I have been trying to get this to fly correctly again.

Thats why I say this is a more advanced heli than people are giving it credit for due to its size myself included. I have never been so fustrated with any of my helis as I was with this. I almost give up and sold it over a 6 dollar tail boom. Give it a bit more attention to detail it is a sweet lil bird that I plan to not give up any time soon.

ENGAGE!!

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01-15-2013 10:59 PM  5 years agoPost 112
FARRL

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LEESBURG GA. USA

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One of my favorite helis, a blast to fly. Need two of them to keep flying. Takes some work to keep going.

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01-17-2013 12:40 PM  5 years agoPost 113
honeybeeman

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kenner, LA

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i have three of these little critters, love them, sold off my bigger birds. only fly these now. tt tail is the answer, brushless motor power too. great little heli, not perfect of course but rocks. i can now fly in front of house or parks, malls, much more practicle.

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01-17-2013 04:16 PM  5 years agoPost 114
mbarhsi

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Flagstaff, AZ

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Horizon's been busy lately. Now, they have a new brushless (main and tail) mCPX. Wonder when that one will come out since they still have yet to poop out the 500 and 550X.

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01-17-2013 04:39 PM  5 years agoPost 115
jschenck

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La Vista, NE.

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We had a Blade 500 3D flying at our club last weekend. I think he's had it for at least a few weeks now.

BL mCPX looks very interesting

http://www.horizonhobby.com/product...-bl-bnf-BLH3980

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01-17-2013 06:35 PM  5 years agoPost 116
mbarhsi

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Flagstaff, AZ

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We had a Blade 500 3D flying at our club last weekend. I think he's had it for at least a few weeks now.
And? I said the 500 and 550X, not the FB 5003D.

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01-17-2013 06:48 PM  5 years agoPost 117
OICU812

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Edson, Alberta, Canada

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I have one, now modded crazy and it's a money pit. Theyre fun when they work good but the tail IMO is truly a non dependable thing. If you can deal with always effing with it and don't mind blowing cash its then for you. If not stay away, that simple. Again I don't hate mine, I enjoy it when it works but out of the box it is not a treasure for what they charge for it IMO.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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01-17-2013 07:59 PM  5 years agoPost 118
turboomni

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Today my 130x is a POS

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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01-17-2013 08:25 PM  5 years agoPost 119
mbarhsi

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I have one, now modded crazy and it's a money pit. Theyre fun when they work good but the tail IMO is truly a non dependable thing.
Well, then FIX your tail. Properly set up and balanced, it's completely reliable. I have many, many (hundreds) of flights on my 130X without a single tail related problem. The only thing was my stock tail servo finally died (not in flight, just a tail wag that wouldn't go away after cleaning) and I'm now running a DS35 tail servo. The tail is rock solid.

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01-17-2013 08:36 PM  5 years agoPost 120
OICU812

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Edson, Alberta, Canada

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Ya that's it I don't know how to setup a heli, gotcha..this little piece of crap is hardly complicated. If your flying it hard, doing reversals, things fail on it and one day its good next day you have to eff with something with no crashes in between... wait must be my setup skills and something needs fixing when nothing apparently broke? I realize to many its a be all to end all I bought it for giggles to me its just a backyard basher really nothing more.... if your hovering it around and flying mild sure it may have some longevity I can't say..Insert HUGE face palm here...

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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