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07-28-2012 02:11 AM  8 years ago
mbarhsi

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was hoping one of you guys could send me the link for things to check before flying that you found on HF please?
Just go there and start reading. There's a lot more info and tons of threads over there. Too many to link. It's not like it costs anything to sign up at HeliFreak. You can read without signing up, too.
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07-28-2012 05:11 AM  8 years ago
turboomni

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I bought my 130x the other day. I bought a bunch of parts too. I got home and took out the battery and charged it. I then took apart the tail. The tail bearings were sloppy. In my new parts bin were a new set of Boca bearings. I installed them and put the tail shaft in to see the difference. Good difference,,a good bit better in the slop department. Looked hard at the tail shaft. Like another post here I chucked it in my dremel tool. Spun it up and it looked blurry ,,,measured it and it was NOT square. Went to my new parts bin and got a new one. Spun it and the image was clear and square when I measured it. Good!! Put my tail blades on a magnetic balancer for micro helis. Out of balance! Fixed that. Main blades on a balancer,,,out of balance!! Fixed that. Whithout the tail drive system ran up the main blades...nice ,,smooth as a baby's ,,you know what. It bound fine and all systems look good.
Got to reassemble the tail drive ,,maybe with the big metal gear I got from my hobby shop....I dont know. Any ways that is where I am at now,,,
That was from me awhile ago and I can say this thing is great in all respects. I installed the metal A gear with good results. But do not just ram the tail boom in as far as it can go as is said on some forums and go fly! The metal A gear and metal B gear must have some slack [float] in it. It [the B metal gear} must float abit on the torque tube. It must not be jammed . My first attempt with the boom jammed home resulted a C gear not being very happy. It was wallowing out. The B gear has about 1mm slack mesh on the A gear. I now have close to 30 flights on the 130 now with no problems. Very smooth,,I backed off the tail gyro gain [WAG} and kept the stock programming for now. It fly's like my trex 450 in every respect but is smaller. It is not lacking for power. It is very precise. I also added two the swashplate grommets to the main blade grips [doubling them} and replaced the swash grommets with the canopy grommets. Tail blade tightness is crucial too,,,tighten till the blade grips can control the lateral movement of the blades but still be loose. There is so far no tail vibrations and she fly's great.
I am happy....but I did do some work.
Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them
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07-28-2012 03:14 PM  8 years ago
bigben1165

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im trying to make all the changes to mine before the maiden flight. ive done most of the hf stuff but dont have time to fly today.big ben - e550 fbl - DX6
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07-30-2012 05:29 AM  8 years ago
microDan

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GYRO Programing from the manual,

To enter Programming Mode:
1. Move the throttle stick to the full throttle (100% throttle travel) postion and power on the transmitter.
2. Connect the flight battery to the helicopter control unit.
3. The Status LED turns solid blue, then blinks in a series of Red, Green and Blue LEDs.
4. When the control unit is in programming mode, the Red LED is solid and the Status LED blinks.
Move the Elevator stick forward or backward to change between axes.
Red LED = Elevator
Green LED = Aileron
Blue LED = Rudder
Move the Aileron stick left or right to change the gain value.
The Axis LED Is solid when the gain is at the default (neutral) value.
Right Aileron increases the gain and the LEDs blinks faster.
Left Aileron decreases the gain and the LEDs blink slower.
There are ten steps available in each direction for a total of 20 gain values for each axis.
The highest and lowest values are within a predetermined range and do not prevent the helicopter from being flyable.
To reset the gain values to the default settings:
1. Adjust the Rudder travel value to 100% in both directions.
2. Hold right rudder for 5 seconds while in programming mode. The Red, Green and Blue LEDs will blink in a sequence
to indicate the default settings are active.
To exit the menu:
1. Disconnect the flight battery from the control unit.
2. Move the throttle stick to the low/idle position or activate Throttle Hold. Leave the transmitter powered on.
3. Connect the flight battery to the control unit.
"Do it like it's the last day of your life"
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07-31-2012 01:47 PM  8 years ago
bigben1165

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ok, so you guys were right, this thing rocks. i loved the fbl system on the mcpx, but i wanted a better tail, this one holds for days! best of both worlds!big ben - e550 fbl - DX6
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08-14-2012 10:30 PM  8 years ago
mbarhsi

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So, been a while since the last post... How's everyone liking their 130 X these days? Mine's been awesome, especially after finally getting my metal Rakon tail pitch slider in the main and installed.
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08-14-2012 10:45 PM  8 years ago
microDan

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I have a few of them and I think they are great.
It's a 50-50 shot whether or not you get one better than another.
Some vibe real bad others are near perfect out of the box.
The one's that tail vibed just took some tape to dynamic balance the tail rotors & good to go. Some had sloppy bearings in the tail and even sloppy pitch sliders but once balanced they flew fine.
I don't condone flying the sloppy tail but it is flyable.
I have MH tail shaft bearings and they are perfect and the MH pitch slider is an amazing piece of workmanship for the price.
Overall the 130X is a good heli but the QC is poor, but with minimal $ and a bit of tinkering it blows away the MCPX, I know it's a different class. I'm glad I sold all my MCPX's & stuff before the 130x came out.
Overall a very nice big feel in a small package that can be flown just about anywhere. (not really big but you know what I mean)
"Do it like it's the last day of your life"
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08-14-2012 10:47 PM  8 years ago
mbarhsi

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I should dump my brushless mCP X. I never fly it anymore!
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08-15-2012 12:03 AM  8 years ago
bigben1165

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i was thinking the same thing. i have an msrx that i am learning nose in with. otherwise i only fly the 130x.big ben - e550 fbl - DX6
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08-15-2012 12:10 AM  8 years ago
mbarhsi

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I keep my mSR X around because it's still fun to fly in the house and run "dust off" missions on the cats. It's also the only heli I'm allowed to fly indoors anymore. Per the wife, no more flying high headspeed brushless CP helis in the house, even though I've done more damage to her house plants with the mSR X.
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08-15-2012 04:49 PM  8 years ago
Beamer

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I think the 130x is a great helicopter. The more I fly it, the more I like it. Sure there are a few small kinks they need to work out but they must have invested a lot of time developing this heli and it shows. Looking forward to the small improvements and lots more flying.
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08-16-2012 04:52 PM  8 years ago
bigben1165

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i agree with your assessment of the 130x. i loved the mcpx, this takes all the good stuff with that bird and improves on it. in fact about a year ago i showed my wife a picture of the blade 120SR and said if they ever come out with a CP version of this heli im gonna get it!

so i guess i can see the future...
big ben - e550 fbl - DX6
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08-22-2012 02:20 PM  8 years ago
steve 01

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I picked one up at Ircha and have been flying the crap out of it
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08-22-2012 03:11 PM  8 years ago
HeliNutAndy

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I purchased one and it flies great and is real fun but I have had all sorts of problems.

1) Tail vibrates like he** on spool up.
2) Tail will do a 180 if it gets hit by a gust of wind.
3) Tail gear stripped on me for no apparent reason.
4) As of late I cannot get the heli off the ground without the heli trying to tip over.

I would like to get another one in hopes of getting a 'good' one because it is getting old constantly working on the bird.

I wish you luck on getting a 'good' one.
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08-22-2012 04:58 PM  8 years ago
mbarhsi

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Did you purchase it right from HH? I did with my first one and it was a POS. I ordered a second one, which has been great, and demanded a refund on the first 130 X. They gave me a refund, no problem. Even emailed me a pre-paid UPS shipping label to print out and stick on the box. Don't let them get away this. Make them EAT that bad 130 X.
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08-22-2012 06:05 PM  8 years ago
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Did you purchase it right from HH?
That's actually a whole other story. I purchased it from my LHS which would not exchange it.

I already called HH once and I think you are right. I will call them again later today and complain. I love the heli but I hate looking at a $280 air hogs heli which I essentially have since an air hogss would fly better at this point.
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08-22-2012 09:51 PM  8 years ago
bigben1165

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pic my wife took last night

I love this thing! So easy to learn on!
big ben - e550 fbl - DX6
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08-22-2012 11:12 PM  8 years ago
TomC

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Well, I must have been one of the lucky ones; no wobbles or vibs (incl no spoolup vib as well). The only thing I've had to do (besides grommets everywhere) is add a little subtrim to correct the fbl systems incorrectly calibrated gyros (using subtrim Ailr 6 R, Elev 3 D, Rud 6 L. Works perfect with this, no drift). Also tail gain @ -3.

The more I fly (and crash) this heli the more I like it.

Cheers,
TomC
Nqx,Mcpx-BL,300x,450x,500x,550x
Ion-x, 10s ,SS
TT X50E 10s, HC3-Sx
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08-22-2012 11:14 PM  8 years ago
bigben1165

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sounds awesome!big ben - e550 fbl - DX6
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08-22-2012 11:50 PM  8 years ago
turboomni

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nice pic Ben,,,way ta go!!Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them
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